haberjj01
Apr 7 2008, 11:42 PM
| | Obviously this democratic nomination race is still going on. But should it be? It seems clear to me that Hillary has almost no chance of winning the nomination because even if she does win Pennsylvania, Obama will probably get enough districts to cancel out any delegates she wins. I live in PA and I am definitely voting for Barrack Obama. Who do you think will make a better president, and who do you think would more likely be able to defeat John McCain in the presidential race? |
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Thingcubed
Apr 9 2008, 02:48 AM
I'm definitely an Obama supporter, and while I wouldn't mind if Hillary chose to drop out now, I don't think that she should have to. If the roles were reversed and Obama was behind, I'd want him to stay in the race. If she chooses to drop out than that is fine, but I don't think I agree with all of the people who are trying to convince her to drop out. It would probably be better if she dropped out, but it is fair for her to stay in for now.
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Watermonkey
Apr 9 2008, 04:24 AM
What's amusing to me is you seem to actually believe there's a wit of difference between those three. Rather disturbing, actually.
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disneyreporter
Apr 9 2008, 07:22 PM
I think Hillary still clearly has a chance. Obama may be winning in the number of states and delegates one, but Hillary has won most of the big, important states that a candidate needs to win to become president. With the delegates from Michigan and Florida counted, she would be in the lead. When the competition first began, Hillary was in the lead by a large double digit margin. It wasn't until Oprah stated that she support Obama that he began his upward trend. He talks about change, well, what change is he going to bring? Can anyone name an accomplishment he's made? Hillary has so many years of experience. She's been in the White House before and clearly nows how to do the job correctly. Hillary Clinton is a fighter and will not quit no matter how tough the rest of the road is. You can guarantee she'll be at the Democratic National Convention whether people want her to be there or not. As for a Hillary Clinton/Barack Obama ticket, I can't see that ever happening.
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dre
Apr 10 2008, 01:01 AM
QUOTE What's amusing to me is you seem to actually believe there's a wit of difference between those three.
Rather disturbing, actually. It's like choosing between different puppets, in the end, the master will still be in charge.
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Thingcubed
Apr 10 2008, 02:35 AM
Yes, of course. Hillary deserves to get the delegates from Michigan, it's not like she was the only person on the ballot or anything. I mean, she got 55% of the vote! Competing against... nothing.
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haberjj01
Apr 10 2008, 05:10 PM
QUOTE(Watermonkey @ Apr 9 2008, 12:24 AM)  What's amusing to me is you seem to actually believe there's a wit of difference between those three.
Rather disturbing, actually. Of course there isn't a difference. Its just choosing the lesser of 3 evils.
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baphometslayer
Apr 12 2008, 03:23 AM
I wouldn't pick either of them. Nor would I pick the Presumed Republican candidate John McCain. None of them are offering anything in the form of change. Obama speaks of nothing but rhetoric that has attracted tons of people, but sadly, to a person of greater intelligence it is nothing of substance. He doesn't offer any solutions, and it's AMAZING that people will buy in to it. He also has a couple of skeletons in his closet. Hillary.....well, it's just absurd to think that ANYONE would vote for her considering her track record. Her involvement in Watergate is scary enough. But her recent telling of tall tales filled with lies only proves that she's the same thing we've been seeing in Washington. Lies, lies, and MORE lies. And John McCain.....oh McCain. It confuses me that this man could get the amount of votes that he has. He's very much a wolf in sheep's clothing. McCain embodies everything that the Neo-Conservative agenda seeks to obtain. He's a quasi-liberal and stands for nothing that a true conservative does, which is nothing that's been seen in the Bush administration. No small government, dwindling personal freedoms. These are things McCain will bring, as well as Obama AND Clinton. Face it, we've got nothing but CRAP to vote for this election cycle. People are too ignorant to know anything about ANYTHING. The two-party system is a sham.
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dave2win
Apr 12 2008, 07:13 AM
Echo_of_thunder
Apr 12 2008, 03:44 PM
Hilary or Obama? These two remind me of childern fighting over there toys. I have been a Dem ever since I 1st started to vote. For the 1st time I think I will vote for a Rep, due to the way that Hilary and Obama have acted during the race. I have not seen as much mud slinging since I went to a monster truck race and it rained.
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disneyreporter
Jun 4 2008, 07:16 PM
Basing your nominee on the number of delegates you have is so stupid. Most of the states Obama won go Republican in the General Election. A lot of good that's going to do him in November. Most of the states Hillary won on the otherhand go Democratic in the General Election. She also won the key battleground states. Is that saying anything? I really feel like there is too much wait in delegates, especially when the super delegates are using their power irresponsibly, not voting for who they think would be the best but instead who will end the race sooner. That's wrong. I feel the only good chance Obama stands in winning is if Hillary runs as his VP, which is fine because Hillary will then become President when Obama is eventually shot by extremists. A larger percentage of Hillary supporters would rather vote for McCain than Obama. He can't win without her help. Right now, she holds a lot of power. She can trash him and not be his VP, assuring McCain wins, or she can help him out and assure a win for the Democratic Party. Personally, I think the Democratic National Committee is going to push Obama to ask Hillary to be his VP. While they haven't been showing it, they must know that he doesn't stand a chance. I laugh when Obama said the other day when he said he thought he had a good chance of winning Nevada, New Mexico, and Pennsylvania against McCain. haha ... Too bad Hillary Clinton won all three of those states in the primaries. I swear, the head honchos of the Democratic Party are complete idiots and do not have the best interests of the party in mind. * Great job Hillary on winning South Dakota -- a state that she wasn't expected to win. Did anyone else notice that Obama won all of the states surrounding South Dakota? Kind of weird, huh?
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magic
May 30 2008, 02:32 PM
Well I dont know my self but it seems that Obama is using Bushes tactics to get his supporters and Hillary seems to be a feminist, And McClain well guess he is in hiding. Its hard to believe any of them and besides it will take years to change what the Bush adminastration has done. I dont think no matter who you get in there the things that are going on are bound to continue.
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arnz
May 14 2008, 02:49 PM
I'm not a USA citizen, although I do think that the media over there tends to get behind a favourite, and IMO it seems that most outlets tend to warn towards Obama more. Although I had seen some outlets warm more to Clinton. Also, there has been the usual criticism lines, for example.. 'A vote for Hilary is a vote for Bill Clinton back in again'. George Bush's replacement for example is also the target of the usual 'a vote for GWB's replacement (sorry can't remember the name) is a vote for Bush's third term' , since the US presidency can only have 2 consecutive terms.
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AbdurahmanL
May 14 2008, 01:59 AM
I would personally go for Obama, but in actuality, I don't care who wins. All politicians are the same right? They are all lairs and scumbags right? Is anyone with me? It won't matter who wins because everything will still be the same. I don't see gas prices falling anytime soon. I don't see America getting out of Iraq either. Its just a political mind game. I just try to stay away from politics. That's why I don't vote. I'm not with any party. I hope you can see my views and I didn't offend anyone. The last thing I want to do is offend someone. Well, Peace Out.
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mikeyboy63
May 14 2008, 01:20 AM
Obama. Hillary and McCain are owned by the Israeli lobby. Lieberman has his hand up his puppets backside (McCain's). Israel wants the U.S. to occupy Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Lebanon to secure Israel's borders. Bush has led us down that path and both Hillary and McCain will continue it. The Neoconservatives are pushing this agenda. Groups like the PNAC (Project for a New American Century) are in control of the White House. Since Israel's Likud Party is wary of Obama, that tells me they don't own him (yet).
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