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Goosestaf
well, i searched for the forum for an answer specificly for me and didn't find one, so i was wodnering if anyone could help me out with sub-domains.
I have a .com domain at 1&1.co.uk, as i saw it advertised/suggested in OpaQue's Signature.
so. . .first of all, what is DNS? and is that relelvent to me at all for this?
secondly, i can only forward with my domain using the 1&1 control panel, BUT is there a way to edit all that in trap17's control panel? because at the moment all the pages of the website go under the same domain and if refreshed is hit then it goes to the oringal page, and thats quite ennoying.
So is there anyway i can sort that out using Trap17?

Thanks in advance to anyone who helps smile.gif

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BuffaloHELP
The URL is actually composed of IP address, i.e. 192.168.1.1 but DNS (domain name service) gives you alphabet names to remember those numbers easier. It's similar to alias service.

Think of DNS as a constant address that points to your hosting place. Let's say you want to invite people over to your house and show paintings and such. You first have to give your address--that's Domain name that's been resolved by DNS. And your house is HOSTING place (web storage) and paintings you want to show to people are your webpages.

Trap17 is just a hosting service. It has nothing to do with DNS or domain name. Your DNS controls where your purchased domain name should point to (in this case to Trap17).

But I still haven't got the foggiest idea what you are asking when you say
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because at the moment all the pages of the website go under the same domain and if refreshed is hit then it goes to the oringal page

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Goosestaf
www.heartlesscreations.com

Click any links in the site to go to another page.
. . .. even though it is a differernt page the domain does not generate any path of the page or anything. . . .. so if you press refresh it takes you back to the originol page.

and with my domain, i can only forward the domain to a page of my choice.
Do i need to set somethign in T17 Cpabel so the pages appear in the adress?

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serverph
that domain is mask-forwarding (or domain cloaking with url forwarding) to a trap17 hosted page. masking the destination address is a technique whereby your domain name is forced to appear in the browser instead of your destination url. hence, when you refresh the page, even if your visitor clicks and lands on your subpages already, it will still refresh to redirect to the original redirection/forwarding page of the domain.

are you sure you can just only do url forwarding for your domain? what you need to do is PARK or ADD-ON your domain in trap17. if you own that domain, you should be able to control the domain nameservers (and if not, it could be an added paid service via your domain registrar). configure your domain's nameservers in your domain admin control panel. check the trap17 readme for the nameservers to use. after successfully configuring the domain nameservers, go to your trap17 control panel to PARK or ADD-ON that domain.

PARKED versus ADD-ON

parked domains will point to the main domain account. if you own domain.com (or in this case, yoursubdomain.trap17.com), you can park domain.net and domain.org so that if any of the 3 domains are looked up in your browser, the contents of the main domain are shown. emails sent to the .net and the .org are also routed to your existing .com emails.

add-on domains are domains added to your current account but will show a separate website. it will reside in your domain.com/subfolder/ but technically you will have a totally separate website for it. add-on domains share resources like webspace and bandwidth with your main account and they also share the same cPanel.

after successfully changing nameservers and parking/adding your domain, wait for 12-24 hours (at most up to 2 days) for domain propagation. that will resolve your problem. smile.gif

 

 

 


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Goosestaf
the latter of your message about parked and add-on domains confused me lol, But i went ahead and tried messing around with it, and i didnt see how that would do what i want bassicly.

My only option with my domain resgistar is Forwarding domain.
I COULD use subdomains on homming to dicectories, but i would need to be hosted with them to do that, and i'm happy enough with T17!

Just was bassicly hoping that i could turn off masked domain sad.gif
Its really irritating sad.gif


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serverph
QUOTE(Goosestaf @ Jan 21 2006, 03:54 AM)
the latter of your message about parked and add-on domains confused me lol, But i went ahead and tried messing around with it, and i didnt see how that would do what i want bassicly.

My only option with my domain resgistar is Forwarding domain.
I COULD use subdomains on homming to dicectories, but i would need to be hosted with them to do that, and i'm happy enough with T17!

Just was bassicly hoping that i could turn off masked domain sad.gif
Its really irritating sad.gif
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1and1.co.uk, right? they seem to offer complete DNS management. verify with them again. DNS management is what you need to point your domain nameservers to trap17. when you do this, and after you park/add-on that domain in your trap17 cpanel, your site will be accessible (main index page, and all subpages) via your very own domain url (instead of just yourdomain.trap17.com) along with the corresponding page url appearing in the browser.

example: let's say you have index.html and page2.html. a visitor gets to your index page, and clicks on page2.html, then it goes to that page and will now appear in your browser as www.heartlesscreations.com/page2.html. in short, your domain is not masked/cloaked anymore. when your site visitor refreshes the page, it will refresh page2.html and not the index.html since page2.html is what is appearing in the browser. from my understanding, this is what you want to achieve.

the parked versus add-on domain comparison is a bit confusing, yes. to make it easier for you, i would assume you have only one domain (heartlesscreations.com). just PARK that domain. smile.gif when you buy another domain, and want it to point to the same website, park that again. but when you buy another domain, and want it to point to another website in your trap17 hosting, then ADD-ONN that domain. smile.gif

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Goosestaf
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example: let's say you have index.html and page2.html. a visitor gets to your index page, and clicks on page2.html, then it goes to that page and will now appear in your browser as www.heartlesscreations.com/page2.html. in short, your domain is not masked/cloaked anymore. when your site visitor refreshes the page, it will refresh page2.html and not the index.html since page2.html is what is appearing in the browser. from my understanding, this is what you want to achieve.


YES! that sounds right! thats what i want!
and yes i can change the DNS, but i'm not 100% what to put it.
I tried to simply put my trap17 web adress. As can be seen in this message:

user posted image

Any help?

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BuffaloHELP
Please familiarize yourself with TRAP17 README.

In there, you'll find that "name server" or nameserver for Trap17 are:
ns1.trap17.com
ns2.trap17.com

You will also need to change your domain name from tribunedesign.trap17.com to heartlesscreations.com using the process page--this will cost you 15 credits. NOTE: before you change your domain name, you must unpark and delete all add-on from your cPanel to make this change successful.

Once your cPanel reflects the correct domain name and you updated your nameserver, it will take anywhere from 24-72 hours for to propagate. The next time when you type heartlesscreations.com it will be linked with your Trap17 hosting service.

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Goosestaf
so, if i want to do this. . . i have to change the name to heartlesscreations.com ?
I am wnating to buy another domain as well, to run off my site too. . .
would it be possible to do this with 2 domains. . .
i.e. . .
the heartlesscreations.com running off one file directory
and another domain running off a differernt file directory?

because from what you jsut said it appears i can only do this for one.

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serverph
you can have as many domains as you can buy, limited only by how many is left available for parking/adding-on in the cpanel (which you can see when you enter your cpanel, and viewing the details provided under "General Account Information" on the left side).

example:
QUOTE
Parked Domains  1 / 9   
Addon Domains  0 / 9


that means you have 1 parked domains, and 0 addon domains, out of 9 available for each. that will increase respectively as you park and addon domains.

read again the notes above regarding parked versus add-on domains. and now carefully, so you'll understand it better. smile.gif it is a feature which trap17.com offers precisely because some members want to host one or more websites (with one or more top-level domain names) in their trap17 hosting space. smile.gif

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dave2win
Name Servers are the servers which translate the Domain Name (the language format) to Numeric format and forward the users to the specific location.

URL Masking just covers up your URL and it should not be used.

Put the Trap17 name servers in the name srver sectin and then give them the location where you want to forward the users to. Then you are up & running.

Dave

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Goosestaf
well firstly thanks for your in-valluable help serverph.

I looked through everything and managed to get it working! laugh.gif Hooray!

and i first tested it out last night, with the heartlesscreations.com domain, and it worked perfectly. . . .
but today its been bringing up the page not found error.. . .. .

now. . . . i doubt i have done anythign wrong, as it worked last night, and i have not changed anythign in the directory where it leads. . .. soooo whats going on :S as once again, i am clueless to what is up.

I'm guessing an admin could look through the settings and check for any changes or anything, and see if something odd has happened.

i also have no reason to believe that my domain registar is to blame,
and am using Add-on Domains.

help please sad.gif

(www.heartlesscreations.com should go here http://www.tribunedesign.trap17.com/heartless/)

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serverph
i suggest you read more on the Cpanel Official Documentation:
CPanel Documentation - MAIN

here are the links related to domain management:
Adding Subdomains
Adding Redirects
Adding Add-On Domains
Adding Parked Domains

hope you are able to finally do what you want to do. smile.gif this whole thread covers it all to the best of my knowledge.

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Goosestaf
yes. spot on.

is that possible?

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BuffaloHELP
I'm still having misunderstand when you say
QUOTE
i will also want future domains directed to differernt areas of the site to form differernt websites.
Does that mean you want another domain (let's say goosestaf.com for our example purposes) to share Trap17's hosting which is current used with heatlesscreatsions.com?

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