Dagoth Nereviar
May 19 2006, 10:50 PM
I don't get why people "praise" people who are for a cause so much! Most of the time they do it to just benefit themselves. My main beefs are with the following: * "Animal rights" people. I don't get these...If we were lower down in the food chain, do you really think something higher up would go "Oh, I can't eat that...it has it's own rights!". Also, if they don't like animals (Most of which are born and raised for just testing) who are tested on, let's test on them! A good point my friend made is "We should give them all cancer and AIDs. If they don't want us to research how to get rid of it, they should live with it." * "Human rights" people. Ok, so we should have some of our own rights, but not with something stupid like when a rapist gets away because of human rights! * "Protect the environment" people. I saw a bunch of these the other day handing out flyers, made from what looked like expensive paper, and in full colour, about how we should recycle. I walked on past them, a few minutes later I saw the streets littered with them! Good going >.> There was more, but i'm too lazy and tired to write anymore...
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SarCasM
May 19 2006, 11:21 PM
* "Animal rights" people. I don't get these...If we were lower down in the food chain, do you really think something higher up would go "Oh, I can't eat that...it has it's own rights!". Also, if they don't like animals (Most of which are born and raised for just testing) who are tested on, let's test on them! A good point my friend made is "We should give them all cancer and AIDs. If they don't want us to research how to get rid of it, they should live with it."I may be an animal lover..well wait, no, I just love cats and dogs, screw the rest. >_> But as I was saying, I agree with you on the animal rights thing for the most part, I'd much rather have them be tested on than actual humans. Sure, it's cuel, but it's the only way to learn. And also, I am a very proud, very hungry, meat-eater. @_@ Give me more chicken! I want my beef! * "Human rights" people. Ok, so we should have some of our own rights, but not with something stupid like when a rapist gets away because of human rights!Human rights? Hmm, not sure how I feel on that. I haven't read much about what people whine about under that catagory. Although there are some laws that I think go against "human rights", but that's a different subject. * "Protect the environment" people. I saw a bunch of these the other day handing out flyers, made from what looked like expensive paper, and in full colour, about how we should recycle. I walked on past them, a few minutes later I saw the streets littered with them! Good going >.>
The environment? Pfft, we're the dominant species, we can use it how we want. Whether or not we're messing it up. >_> (I know, that's very simple minded, but I don't feel like getting into this) And XD @ those hypocrites.
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JasperIk
May 19 2006, 11:30 PM
First Off DO NOT ever wish AIDS/HIV on ANYBODY. Its just cruel, because Honestly you don't understand what it is like to have it, and no one deserves it. Nor should you wish Cancer on anyone. If you don't like somebody's beliefs don't follow them. You are protesting by protesting against them, so really you are the same as them. They are just going to keep doing it, even if you protest against them because they have a right to. They are trying to get as many followers as they can to help with whatever cause they are for, just like you probably would like to get a group of people together, to be against them. For Animal rights, I still think all testing should be done on humans who volenteer their bodies [when they have died]. Human Rights, if you rape or murder someone as far as im concerned you have no soul, and arent a human. You dont deserve rights of other humans. But if you are innocent of everything completly and are treated poorly, you deserve to be treated well, that is ur human right to be respected. Protecting the environment, Im personally pretty into that i HATE litter and i hate walking down the street and seeing litter everywhere, and sometimes especially if i have time i pick it up. Why cant people throw it in a damn trash can? But instead of making flyers, wouldnt having t-shirts be better? people probably arent going to throw a t shirt on the ground, like they would flyers.
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ibsu
May 20 2006, 12:07 AM
QUOTE(SarCasM @ May 19 2006, 07:21 PM) 
* "Protect the environment" people. I saw a bunch of these the other day handing out flyers, made from what looked like expensive paper, and in full colour, about how we should recycle. I walked on past them, a few minutes later I saw the streets littered with them! Good going >.>
The environment? Pfft, we're the dominant species, we can use it how we want. Whether or not we're messing it up. >_>
(I know, that's very simple minded, but I don't feel like getting into this)
I'm going to poke at it anyways. ... Why do you say something so arrogant like that? We're dominant species so we may trash the enviroment? It's our earth, we should be taking better care of it. I should never hear you complain about thick smoggy air, cities that smell like sewage and the hole in the sky that's rapidly increasing the temperature at a dangerous rate and bombing you with UV rays.
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SarCasM
May 20 2006, 12:24 AM
QUOTE(ibsu @ May 19 2006, 07:07 PM)
I'm going to poke at it anyways.
... Why do you say something so arrogant like that? We're dominant species so we may trash the enviroment? It's our earth, we should be taking better care of it. I should never hear you complain about thick smoggy air, cities that smell like sewage and the hole in the sky that's rapidly increasing the temperature at a dangerous rate and bombing you with UV rays.
Lol, thought I was serious? And what do you mean "hear ME complain"? I don't complain about any of those things. I know "we" should be taking better care of "our earth", but it's so far gone, protesting and crying about it isn't going to do much, at all. Look at cities like NY, what, you think your protesting will fix places like that? HA. Way too deep into it now. In case you mis-read me I said I wasn't serious, so dont even start with me. I am so not in the mood to take crap right now. Look, basically, if you want to go try and make a point, go ahead, do whatever you want. But don't ever start blaming people like me for the way things are(I know you haven't, I'm talking about/to the people who go out and protest this junk), I'm not the one screwing the earth up.
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JasperIk
May 20 2006, 12:29 AM
with a screen name of sarcasm, i do not think id personally take a lot of what you say seriously, or least not to heart. Especially how dramatized your post was, atleast the last bit. And if you were, oh well...life goes on?
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SarCasM
May 20 2006, 12:48 AM
Nevermind. Feel free to delete.
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ibsu
May 20 2006, 12:54 AM
You said... "(I know, that's very simple minded, but I don't feel like getting into this)" That was being real. If not, what the hell was that? You set yourself up for it. And now, you've fully replied to my post so obviously, you were being serious about it. It's not too late to make things a lot better, it won't be the same but it can be better. With your "oh too late who cares now, we're dominant species anyways" attitude, this world is going to be screwed.
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SarCasM
May 20 2006, 01:01 AM
Yeah, because of course I'm the one screwing the earth up, you know. I'm the one throwing litter all over the ground, driving cars that fill the air with crap, etc etc. Oh, wait, no I'm not. kk, sleep time, bye.
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ibsu
May 20 2006, 01:12 AM
QUOTE The environment? Pfft, we're the dominant species, we can use it how we want. Whether or not we're messing it up. >_>
(I know, that's very simple minded, but I don't feel like getting into this) ^ Read what you wrote, and see how well it goes with what you just said now.  Take it to your sleep. Good night.
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BooZker
Jun 9 2006, 08:04 AM
I dont know where to start. First off did you know we have free speach? Or do we? Did you know you can't just go out and protest. You have to get a piece of paper saying you can. Did you also know you are not allowed to protest the president when he is in town. You have to go to protest zones which are far enough away that it dosnt ruin his speach. If the president has so many protesters that they have to move them away from the president, dosnt that mean anything to you? Without people like these we would not have black rights or women rights. You may think what they preach about is dumb, but thats what they thought when women wanted to vote.
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homeloansnow
May 28 2006, 09:13 PM
As far as animal rights are concerned, I look at it this way: If whatever Higher Power you worship had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of MEAT!
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wariorpk
May 28 2006, 07:22 PM
Active rights are kind of annoying at times. As far as animal testing goes, it makes the most sence. Would you rather test the effects of nuclear radiation on a rat that has nothing to live for or yourself? Animals do not have indepent thought like we humans do so if one animal dies to save many humans its worth while. As far as human rights go I agree to an extent. People should have basic rights like voting, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, right to a trial, and a right to life. After that it gets annoying.
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Sinari
May 28 2006, 05:16 PM
Hippys? Unless they're dead then I have no clue what you are talking about. Why would you need them to reproduce anyway? Isn't the purpose of testing to test the effects on the body not on offspring? I agree that some human rights people take it too far but sometimes you have to stand up for stuff. Not everything but people are people. The only animals I defend are pets. No one should experiment on some little boys pet or anything but any other animal is fair game unless you're being cruel to it. i.e. Abusing it for no reason. Some things are right to stand up for, but some should be forgotten. That's when it gets too far.
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Kioku
May 23 2006, 05:47 PM
I don't get what anybody's trying to accomplish by acting like a pansy. A couple of cats and dogs die for the purpose of a product? Suck it up. If you're that afraid of death, why were you born? Get over it. Things die. Take care of the earth? Yeah, like we're going to affect it that much. We can filter out what we've done. The Earth is three fourths water and we can purify it. If you can't get over the fact animals die and we can test stuff on them, causing some hippy douche to complain, oh well. If you're all going to whine that much, why don't we just take all of our nuclear weapons and set them off at once just to shut you up? Humans are also animals, so don't feed me that creationist *BLEEP* either. It would be simpler to do it to a lesser life form, rather than some equally drugged up hippy in prison. They reproduce faster and less douche bags complain about "ethics".
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