serverph
Mar 17 2006, 07:08 PM
Hackers get Mac running Windows... and Apple thought it can't be done!  a bounty of $13,854 (£7,895) was "what broke the camel's back", so to speak.  twas a "profitable" motivation enough for two "hackers" to do the "seemingly impossible" task. now, the word "hacker" may raise red flags all around, and some who are brainwashed by media's definition of the word (#4 below) may bring some frowns on their faces. but i'd like to point out that the "hacker" by webster definition in this case is #3: QUOTE hackerPronunciation: 'ha-k&r Function: noun 1 : one that hacks 2 : a person who is inexperienced or unskilled at a particular activity <a tennis hacker> 3 : an expert at programming and solving problems with a computer4 : a person who illegally gains access to and sometimes tampers with information in a computer system the "hack" involved (which is an "open source project") is a legal download provided by the authors, but it won't do any good if you don't have a legal Windows XP SP2 (which is required to test it out of course). caveat again: a premade installation CD of Windows XP SP2 is not legal.. anyway, after dealing with that legalese stuff, your thoughts. i want to know if you are willing to try it, what uses would it benefit you, etc. unfortunately, i can't test it out, since i don't own a mac. but i'm sure some of you here do.
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Earths Daughter
Mar 17 2006, 07:24 PM
I don't have a Mac either, but if I did, I wouldn't run Windows on it. What's the point of getting a Mac, and then putting Windows on it, you might as well get an IBM compatible and install Windows on it in the first place. Windows for Mac is just a way for Micro$oft to try to get their programs on every computer out there. (And get the money from it.) I'm using Win XP for now, but one of these days somebody is going to come up with a Linux version that will run all the Windows games and programs, then I'm switching to Linux. If you don't want your Mac running Windows to get hacked, don't run Windows, use OSX, it's as simple as that.
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Unregistered 015
Mar 17 2006, 11:53 PM
I don't know about apple's imac architecture, but on a ibm compatible pc, you can put anything you like. google for virtual machines (not java ones, but rather ones like wmware)!
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serverph
Mar 18 2006, 09:28 AM
QUOTE(Earths Daughter @ Mar 18 2006, 03:24 AM)  ...I'm using Win XP for now, but one of these days somebody is going to come up with a Linux version that will run all the Windows games and programs, then I'm switching to Linux. i think there's WINE for that. not all windows games and programs may run as you require, but then again, there are windows apps also that don't run entirely on all windows versions, i.e. they are version-dependent (for win2k/xp only, etc).
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adriantc
Mar 18 2006, 12:51 PM
QUOTE caveat again: a premade installation CD of Windows XP SP2 is not legal. It's not premade. If you buy the Windows XP Service Pack 2 CD (legal) you have the right to do anything with it, even copying it as long as you don't install Windows on other computers on the same time. And besides I'm sure that more then 70% of us haven't got a "legal" copy of Windows XP. I wouldn't give more then 100$ to a operating system that is full of bugs. I only use windows because there is nothing (yet) to turn to. Windows on Mac... the news made quite a stir on a computer related sites. Well the guys that "hacked" (I'll use the word even if I don't approve it) are really good programmers, But it really doesn't help me a bit. I don't have a Mac and I don't intend to buy one in 10 years so... Still good to know there are still people that can challenge the big companies
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serverph
Mar 18 2006, 04:58 PM
QUOTE(adriantc @ Mar 18 2006, 08:51 PM) It's not premade. If you buy the Windows XP Service Pack 2 CD (legal) you have the right to do anything with it, even copying it as long as you don't install Windows on other computers on the same time. And besides I'm sure that more then 70% of us haven't got a "legal" copy of Windows XP. I wouldn't give more then 100$ to a operating system that is full of bugs. I only use windows because there is nothing (yet) to turn to.
i'm talking about those *premade* or *all-in-one* thingies floating around the information superhighway. and that one is NOT legal. UPDATE: A MacBreak Special: Leo Laporte rushes a demo of the XP running on an Intel Mac Mini. Video download (Direct .mov link & iTunes) available.
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adriantc
Mar 18 2006, 08:27 PM
QUOTE i'm talking about those *premade* or *all-in-one* thingies floating around the information superhighway. and that one is NOT legal. smile.gif I don't know if you're right about that. Imean you can get a copy of Windows XP from torrent, but as long as you have a license for it Microsoft won't really care. Activation is made only to prevent people from sharing the same CD-Key, so they don't care if your Windows is premade or downloaded from Piratebay.
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serverph
Mar 19 2006, 07:20 AM
QUOTE(adriantc @ Mar 19 2006, 04:27 AM) I don't know if you're right about that. Imean you can get a copy of Windows XP from torrent, but as long as you have a license for it Microsoft won't really care. Activation is made only to prevent people from sharing the same CD-Key, so they don't care if your Windows is premade or downloaded from Piratebay. you can get windows xp from torrent, yes. but why is it there in the first place? because it's warez stuff. and warez are warez. and illegal. well, you can do whatever you want anyway. i'm just giving users a caveat, a cautionary warning.
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shigajet
Mar 19 2006, 03:23 PM
Since the new iMacs have the Intel chip, it's been stated that it IS possible to run Windows on a Mac, but then again why would anyone want to ditch Mac OS X for Windows?
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beeseven
Mar 19 2006, 03:55 PM
QUOTE(Earths Daughter @ Mar 17 2006, 02:24 PM) I'm using Win XP for now, but one of these days somebody is going to come up with a Linux version that will run all the Windows games and programs, then I'm switching to Linux. Whether or not a program works on an operating system depends on the system on which it was compiled. All you would need to do to get a Windows-dependent program to run on Linux is to get the source (easier said than done, since so few Windows-only things are open source) and then compile it on a Linux machine. QUOTE(Earths Daughter @ Mar 17 2006, 02:24 PM) If you don't want your Mac running Windows to get hacked, don't run Windows, use OSX, it's as simple as that. I think you may have misunderstood the definition for "hackers" being used. It's not that they hacked a Mac that was running Windows, it's that they changed the Windows code so that it could be run on a Mac.
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michaelper22
May 8 2006, 10:42 PM
QUOTE(leeleelee @ May 8 2006, 12:59 AM)
I would give it a go on an older mac we dont use. It would be handy when a computer can run XP and OSX. They say that might be possible on MACs soon. But Dont really need to run and XP programs so its no big deal at all.
If anything, Boot Camp would only work on Intel powered Macs, like the new MacBook Pro. That's because Windows can only run natively on Intel-based platforms, and would need emulation software (which exists, Microsoft Virtual PC for Mac, for instance) to run on a PPC processor.
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leeleelee
May 8 2006, 04:59 AM
I would give it a go on an older mac we dont use. It would be handy when a computer can run XP and OSX. They say that might be possible on MACs soon. But Dont really need to run and XP programs so its no big deal at all.
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trancenation
May 8 2006, 02:47 AM
I find it amazing that comapanys think these things cant be done. anything can be done at any time. Although max OS is shittty anyway so who would want to run it anyway.
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JC05
May 7 2006, 03:07 PM
If i had an Apple Mac I would most certainly try this out. It sounds so cool. But they have also now started to make them with windows now i think. But I like messing around with computers and stuff so trying to make that work would be totaly awesom!
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michaelper22
Apr 6 2006, 12:11 AM
And here comes the good part. Aplle has recently released software (called Boot Camp; currently in beta, available as an 83 MB download from their site) that guides you with installing a licensed copy of Windows XP in your Intel-based Mac. Basically, it gives you a CD full of drivers for the Mac hardware components, prints an install guide, and partitions your hard drive. You then insert the Windows XP CD and install it. Sounds simple, eh? I bet it's not.
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