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First, let me clarify: we're not making jewelry just to have an online store. !!! Just the opposite - the jewelry business is already there, the website is another potential outlet. We're not selling engagement rings for thousands of dollars, we're selling cut, pounded silver, and semi-precious stones & beads. Some of it is art and some of it is simple beadwork. I shoul... read more.
Not realy, what a bout an ecommerce script? When you get your accunt, there are a few pre-installed ecommerce scripts available, in cone click they are ready to use!
Im off to bed now (10:40PM, School tomorow!  )
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ecommerce script? I guess I am new, or out of date. how would I find one of those? I'll go on a search tonight and see what I find. Off to dinner (6:15 PM here) ....... you must be someplace in Europe? Thanks for your help, this script sounds like a great idea and worth pursuing. I'll let you know how I make out. Unless someone knows where to find it without a big search? QUOTE(StonedMetalJewelry @ Jan 18 2005, 11:47 PM) I could use some help from those more experienced..... starting an e-business out of an established jewelry business I bought the domain for 3 years, set up email, set up a paypal account, set up an ebay seller account, and cleaned the naughty pictures off the digital camera. Now I"m looking for a web host. I think this is it. I have knowlege of basic html using notepad, and know that templates for various designs are plentiful. Am I forgetting anything?  If you have an "offline" business, want to go online, but have no experience of your own, I just have to say: Let someone else do it for you. Nothing is as off-putting as an unprofessional looking site for a business. I am guessing it's even worse for a business selling pricy items. When I say "let someone else do it", I mean the setting up and technical maintainance of your website, probably also the design as well. What you really want is a well built site with a CMS so you can edit texts and lists of things you sell without having to know all techy stuff. Just my 2 pence.
QUOTE(bjrn @ Jan 19 2005, 07:07 PM) If you have an "offline" business, want to go online, but have no experience of your own, I just have to say: Let someone else do it for you. Nothing is as off-putting as an unprofessional looking site for a business. I am guessing it's even worse for a business selling pricy items. When I say "let someone else do it", I mean the setting up and technical maintainance of your website, probably also the design as well. What you really want is a well built site with a CMS so you can edit texts and lists of things you sell without having to know all techy stuff. Just my 2 pence. Hey, Thanks for the advice, but one reason I'm embarking on this project is to learn a new hobby! I have built a different kind of website, for a non-profit agency, so the hosting was donated, and the design donated by me. I'm not new to the whole concept, just to e-business. Letting someone else do it isn't my style. Buy a girl a fish, and you'll have to keep buying the girl a fish every day. Teach her how to fish, and she'll have all the fish she needs and some to share. It's a skill I want to have. But thanks anyways  Though I like to do my own websites, since it helps me learn new things, I have to agree with bjrn, at least at first, if you're doing a website for a business let someone who has experience do it. *wishes I could plug myself for the job* 
QUOTE(spamlord @ Jan 20 2005, 03:34 PM) Though I like to do my own websites, since it helps me learn new things, I have to agree with bjrn, at least at first, if you're doing a website for a business let someone who has experience do it. *wishes I could plug myself for the job* Hi spamlord, Well one factor is cost - I've seen the prices and I just don't have iany money to pay someone I do have some knowlege and talent that I can utilize, so I'm going to go for it. I guess I shouldn't ask so many questions in the forums, makes me look something of an idiot and I really do know the basics, it's just been a few years since I built a site. The business itself isn't hugely established, so I think I can fake my way through for a while
do you expect people to buy jewlery online? have you done any market profiling on people who buy jewlery? I don't know if it's just me but I would not want to buy an engagement ring online. I would like to see how it looks for real. Big ticket items are rarely done online.
On the other hand, if you are selling mainly cheaper stuff then it may be worth looking into. The way to go is to design the website yourself but have a third party handle the transactions. You can design the website all the way up to a login system and shopping cart before going to the third party. Many webhosts offer add-ons like agora shopping cart that is pretty easy to implement into your website. The third party company will handle security, credit card transactions, etc. Personally, I would not want to give out my credit card number over the internet unless there were some form of security from a big company. Read up on companies like verisign, cybercash, segue systems, and ICVerify. They offer transaction processing services and are secure. They can offer your customers peace of mind and is one more thing that will push the sale. QUOTE(no9t9 @ Jan 20 2005, 10:04 PM) do you expect people to buy jewlery online? have you done any market profiling on people who buy jewlery? I don't know if it's just me but I would not want to buy an engagement ring online. I would like to see how it looks for real. Big ticket items are rarely done online. Have you ever seen the applets they use to sell houses via the internet? It lets you rotate and see everything from almost every angle. I would take this approach for jewelry, and establish a good policy. People were skeptical (and still are) to buy computer hardware off the net. People do it everyday from trusted sites like http://newegg.com, and http://tigerdirect.com. QUOTE("no9t9") On the other hand, if you are selling mainly cheaper stuff then it may be worth looking into. The way to go is to design the website yourself but have a third party handle the transactions. You can design the website all the way up to a login system and shopping cart before going to the third party. Many webhosts offer add-ons like agora shopping cart that is pretty easy to implement into your website. There's everal different scripts you can use. It's not that hard to script one, either. I find the big problem with listing all the items, mainly, because I'm sick and all. I'd personally figure out what you're selling (I see you'd got it, SMJ.), who you're selling it too (Don't want Grandpa to throw the 'puter out the window, or have a stroke looking for the Check out button), and how you're going to sell it. (This includes return policies, etc.) QUOTE("no9t9") The third party company will handle security, credit card transactions, etc. Personally, I would not want to give out my credit card number over the internet unless there were some form of security from a big company. That's what SSL is for. QUOTE("no9t9") Read up on companies like verisign, cybercash, segue systems, and ICVerify. They offer transaction processing services and are secure. They can offer your customers peace of mind and is one more thing that will push the sale. Paypal is probably the best to use. They have many different options (checks, etc) and have partnerships with places like versign. QUOTE(no9t9 @ Jan 20 2005, 11:04 PM) do you expect people to buy jewlery online? have you done any market profiling on people who buy jewlery? I don't know if it's just me but I would not want to buy an engagement ring online. I would like to see how it looks for real. Big ticket items are rarely done online. Why so discouraging? I do belong here just like everyone else. First, let me clarify: we're not making jewelry just to have an online store. !!! Just the opposite - the jewelry business is already there, the website is another potential outlet. We're not selling engagement rings for thousands of dollars, we're selling cut, pounded silver, and semi-precious stones & beads. Some of it is art and some of it is simple beadwork. I shouldn't have to explain this in order to ask a few questions about building a basic website. I had already decided to use Paypal until I learn more. I know my way around the internet and know that I also would not put my credit card number into an unknown void in cyberspace. Thanks for your advice. and the answer is, yes, I expect people to buy jewelry online. I don't however expect YOU to buy jewelry online. There are people who will and people who won't. It's an experiment, I'm not expecting to get rich here, as I said - it's one more POTENTIAL outlet. Latest Entries
First, let me clarify: we're not making jewelry just to have an online store. !!! Just the opposite - the jewelry business is already there, the website is another potential outlet. We're not selling engagement rings for thousands of dollars, we're selling cut, pounded silver, and semi-precious stones & beads. Some of it is art and some of it is simple beadwork. I shouldn't have to explain this in order to ask a few questions about building a basic website. I had already decided to use Paypal until I learn more. I know my way around the internet and know that I also would not put my credit card number into an unknown void in cyberspace. Thanks for your advice. and the answer is, yes, I expect people to buy jewelry online. I don't however expect YOU to buy jewelry online. There are people who will and people who won't. It's an experiment, I'm not expecting to get rich here, as I said - it's one more POTENTIAL outlet.
I recommend mk portal mambo portal and phpWS, php nuke have problems with creating new pages and links so I recommend those above
 You have many modules for all of them, php nuke 7.6 is not free and this sucks because is not so god mambo is much better and mk portal but it's your choice xoops is not bad but have same "problems" like php nuke with linking and new pages, you can create only modules
QUOTE(StonedMetalJewelry @ Jan 22 2005, 06:33 PM) So, you're saying, work in phases? Phase one, make it pretty, but not selling yet. Phase two, sell by sending checks or using their own paypal Phase three, incorporate a shopping cart Yep. I think it has several advantages. First of all, working in phases means you won't be overwhelmed with work. You get a nice chunk of work to do, and when it's finished you can put it online. You get clear goals, and it always feels good to get a piece done. Secondly people who visit your site will always see something that's looking nice and finished, instead of lots of things that are nearly finished. QUOTE(bjrn @ Jan 22 2005, 09:30 AM) About taking pictures: Make sure you have something nice to put the jewellery on. Since you already have a "real" shop that shouldn't be any problem. But trust me when I say that a piece of jewellery layed out on a nice piece of velvet or something like that is going to sell much better than a piece of jewellery on a white background. Just as in your real shop, presentation is important. Well I don't have a "real" shop, the business is making the stuff in a spare room set up as the studio, and selling it to freinds, co-workers, and taking some around to local shops - we live near lots of gift shops. We do have the black velvet though, and picture taking has been a challenge because I've been trying to do this at night after my regular day-job, in poor light. Now it is the weekend, I'm going to try again in good daylight. QUOTE This is why I thought you should get someone else to fix the site for you, because in your first post you said you knew "basic HTML", from which I assumed the worst. But seeing that you've already done a site before this you might very well be up to the job. Well I call it "basic" html becaue compared to the xml and scripts out there, wow. The site I did before looked a little less professional, but only because I had students working on it too, and it was student artwork and such that was the graphics. But it was clear it was a student/teacher effort, so when you know that, the less-than-perfect graphics are forgiven. QUOTE Get the "viewing" part of the website done first, let people visit the site and see all the nice things you are selling. When that's done, put it online. And then you can start making the online sales integration. And when that's finished you put that part online. So, you're saying, work in phases? Phase one, make it pretty, but not selling yet. Phase two, sell by sending checks or using their own paypal Phase three, incorporate a shopping cart ?? This is what you mean? Sounds manageable this way. What does <br> mean? (hahahaha just kidding) Right now <br> means BBRRRRRRRRR it's COLD and we're getting a bunch of SNOW tonight! QUOTE(Bird Man @ Jan 22 2005, 10:32 AM) Yah i hate 2 say it i would do that 2 or use one of teh preinstaled scripts such as PHP-Nuke really good program and you can custoim masie it to your liking Oh yes, shortcuts like this I like alot. I don't intend to build the shopping cart and storefront from scratch. When I said I wanted to build the site myself, I just meant I don't want to hand over the whole project and have someone else put it all together. I'd be paying someone to customize those scripts, and still providing the photos and all that much of the work myself anyways. .................and I'm beginning to feel like I'm spending more time talking than doing I'll check out PHP-Nuke for sure, I'd heard of it but have not looked at it yet. Thanks!!
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