I just found an article in a newspaper which is being distributed for free at my university, the "Zeitung gegen den Krieg" ("Newspaper against the War") which actually scared me, knowing the way Bavaria's government used to behave in the past:



I think it is a real threat to the rest of the world that a country which did not use its influence on global politics to stop wars [Germany did/does participate in the attack wars on Kosovo, Afghanistan and, against public statements, Iraq]; which openly admits to increase its military abilities [european draft constitution: "All member states have to increase their military abilities on an annual basis"] and recently began to support US threats against other countries and stockpiles at least 16 and up to 50 pre-built nuclear weapons from the USA [breach of the non-proliferation treaty!] gains access not only to instructions how to build nuclear weapons (you can find out how to do this in just about any university library) but also to all the materials necessary to do so.
Someone please call for sanctions against Germany at the UN Security Council.
If necessary, boycott german products.

--by the way, I'd like to mention that I'm german myself so there's no need to play the "racist"-card against me...--

 

 

 

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Well, this would mean that Germany is violating the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, which would put it right up there with the rest of the violators, such as Isreal and the United States of America.

Here is a Wikipedia article on this subject.

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Well, while this might be a theoretical possibility. for the freestate of bavaria to develop nuclear weapons, I still think the probability that Germany is going to be building nuclear weapons in my generation (the next 50 years) extremely implausible.

I like my conspiracy theories like no-one, but this is a non-brainer.

Politically it would be suicide. As it is political suicide in Germany to ask for the reintroduction of nuclear power stations.

You might be surprised about that, but I honestly believe, that Germany is not going to re-connet reactors to the net. This obviously is partly due to the fact, that it only has a very small part of its power from nuclear power and most is still coal and gas station, which makes the part of renewable almost as big as the one that is being produced by nuclear.

Germany is next to a couple of other country leading in renewable technologies. Why would they want to go back?

The other thing is of course, why would Germany want a nuclear bomb?

As long as you cannot give me a satisfactory answer to that I don;t think it will happen.

Even with Stoiber as Chancellor it simply does not make sense in the current political situation.

What would have to happen. There would have to be a great fall (hehe) out between all NATO members, and a split between France and Germany at the same time. For Germany to think, it might need nuclear weapons for self defence.

For all the other reasons, that the US or France or GB have the BOMB, as a a means of defence....

So even if Germany is involved in more and more conflicts, that does not mean they necessarily have to go down the route of having a bomb.

Germany unlike France, Britain or the US has no boarder to a state that it considers hostile (or former colonial territories that it would like to still have), nor does it have any that I can see would be hostile in the future, to the extend, that Germany would be singled out as the only target for aggression. (unlike the States)

So the scenario. Country X is mad at Germany and shoots an A-Bomb at Munich (since they deserve it) and Niederwittelsbach, because the church there has a minister that is the last remaining pacifist in Germany.

How likely is that?

I thought so.
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well great, another country with nuclear weaponry, just what the world needs, although US will always have the most >_< i think they should all be destroyed somehow because they are useless...

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Yeah, the world is coming to an end. Another nuclear threat. Is there ever good news about other countries? Not these days at least. Now, everyone will be worried about their saftey, because one false move can take out an entire continent.

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This is crazy. Germany?! With nuclear weapons!? What is the world coming to? The end, that's what. Germany, no offense to you germans out there, seems to dangerous with weaopns, of any sort. Remember Hitler? Although things have changed I am sure. Nuclear weapons are not something to mess around with. I personally think they shouldn't be allowed. Too dangerous in the wrong hands I think.

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i aint no nature freak, but a nuclear explosian can really effect allot of ecosystems and really screw up the balance of nature, meaning somthing like it could kill all the plants in a given area, or poisin the plants within a 5,000 mile radius of the explosion site, and without the plants the herbivores (plant eaetrs) cannot ear and so they die off and then the conumers have nothing to eat, and then the secondary consumers (us) have nothing to eat..

basicly a huge screw up..and if ever there was an "accidental" nuclear explosion, i feel sorry for the country it happened to..lets jus pray osoma bin laden tnever gets his hands on any of those or we're screwed right up the alley (clean term for somthing )

and germany is jsut..wow no offense but teenagers can drink alchahol at an early age there..along with a few other places but germany most of all..and if they have connections lord knows i just fear the futre some day

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cerebral: right, we're violating this treaty (though they've got it covered with some obscure reasons why this shouldn't be a violation of the NPT...)

OCAC: my claim holds just as much arguments to back it up as the claims that Iran is developing "the bomb" has. Need a prove? There is no evidence on either, just reasons why it should be reasonable for both countries to develop nuclear weapons.

I will give you a quote from an article about german claims to a permanent seat in the UN Security Council with quotes from a book by our former Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Joseph "Joschka" Fischer:


(well, the sentences were a bit tricky ... I hope I got them right but I think you can get the point...)



With the current chancelloress (sp?) and the Christian-Democratic Union [CDU; rather conservative] being back in the government, some of their members of parliament began to spread the word that it is nonsense to shut down all german nuclear power plants until 2030 as it was planned by the Green party which was part of the former government coalition.
The energy corporations which own those nuclear power plants lobby in favor of them.



well, how are we supposed to threaten a nation with nuclear weapons if we don't have them ourselves? And as the draft european constitution says, we are to increase our military abilities - having the bomb and carrier weapon systems would increase them a huge deal, wouldn't it?

...but did you see how the other people just fell for my headline which didn't have anything but speculations to back it up? Though it would be nice to know what kind of research they do at the FRM II in Garching...

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well this is always threatening it depends on why are they developing these nuclear weapons and who are they gonna use them on hopefully iraq so we'll win(i live in usa) props on the info and this is good for them better security for their country good info for them


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We are really going to be in a lot of trouble if this happens. If everyone has taken history we werent very friendly with germany. As a madder of fact no one was. Whats to stop them from going to war with us and starting another WW?
WW3 may be coming if something dosent happen.

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