QUOTE(james_666 @ Mar 17 2006, 06:00 PM) but why God lets this evil continue is a Mystery. Er, it's not a mystery. You speak of free will in the same post. What would free will be if we could only choose one thing? If we could only choose to love God, how could that possibly be even considered true love, when we are forced to? That is why there is another option: evil. For instance, i can tell my computer to tell me "I love you, [insert name here]" everytime it starts up. But, it wouldnt mean that it actually loves me. If there was no free will, we would all be preprogrammed computers.

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jmb2006:

Exactly! We have free will. And God cannot control us like little robots. And that is the point I try to make. Although not many people listen to me anyway. The war is something that happens without God. Sin, is actually the absence of God, kind of.

Truefusion:
You are basically saying the same thing. I think it is important to realize that we do have a choice, we do need Christ, and we can pick Him. But it is up to you to choose Him. But instead everyone turns and blames a god they can't see or believe in as their excuse to not believe in Him. It is up to you guys.

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I'm in an inbetween place on my status of religion.

I don't consider myself athiest, as I beleive something had to be there to help our solar system grow, and I also don't follow any sort of religious path.

I'm just me. I live my life without having to prove or disprove an omnipresence. I don't understand why other people can't just leave people's beleifs alone.

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Ahem? Did I force you to join in the discussion? I don't think so. That illustration is the best one ever. Why? Because I did not force you to join in, you did on your OWN FREE WILL. The same works with God. He doesn't force you, but He gives you a chance. It may have been a radio station airing an evangelistic series, a television show that asked people to come to God and believe in Him as their Lord and God. It may have even been at church, but the point is, He gave you a chance, He is giving you another right here as we speak. You have to accept it though. It is between you and God.

You mentioned you are not atheist, but not religious. Which are you? There is actually no middle ground. You believe in God, or you don't. If you believe Aliens created you, then you don't believe in God. But seriously, the risk is great. There is no cost to follow God except His commandments, but rather, you would risk hell instead. Why? I would love for you to answer that for me. I am not preaching at you, but in Christ, I found something that nothing else could replace. It was amazing. The experience watching Him work is amazing. I displayed the facts back a few pages. You can accept it or not, the choice, is yours.

 

 

 

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There is evidence for evolution after all! For evolution to be valid, something that is non-living must become living, for, according to this theory, at one time there was no life. I have found two examples of evidence in support of evolution:

1. Pinnocchio
2. Frosty the Snowman

This is undeniable proof that evolution must be true...

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wild20 -


While the 10 Commandment say "Thou shalt not kill" God establishes penalties for those that DO kill. That penalty is that the same is to be done to the killer. See Exodus 21:22-25 and Leviticus 24:17- 21 and Deuteronomy 19:16-21



Please take note that CHRISTIANITY (a belief in Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord) is predated by MANY religions. Jesus studied in the temples... what were temples doing there if there were no religions before Christianity?Why would God say "Thou shalt have no other gods before me" if there weren't religions that PREDATE His? Monotheistic religions were around long before Christianity, or even Judaism. While I respect your zeal, your FACTS are in error.

On your claim that the Bible as we know it today is the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD: Have you ever had the opportunity to see a complete copy of the Geneva Bible? It predates the King James, and has 80 books, not 66. This was the Bible that came over on the Mayflower. It was the Bible of John Bunyan, author of Pilgrims Progress. Why is the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD missing books? Wouldn't God ensure it stayed intact? The Bible we have today is far from complete. Here comes faith again: we have to take it on faith that those OTHER books were not necessary.

I am not saying I don't believe in God. I am saying I have a lot of questions about whether the God MAN teaches is the God we should be following. After all, isn't our relationship with God supposed to be a personal one? Weren't ministers supposed to spread the Word? Where in the Bible does it say they are supposed to TELL US WHAT TO BELIEVE? 2 Timothy tells us to "study to shew yourselves approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of truth". Looks like the final decision of how and what we believe is up to us, based on OUR UNIQUE UNDERSTANDING OF GOD.

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we breathe, we fight the fact that there is a God even if you are atheist, and miracles happen. not magic, not science but....

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I am one of those that seeing is believing, so until i see god i wont believe in him, the bible is too full of contradictions as well, so i don't reckon much to that either, i still feel the theory of evolution is more likely.

Caz

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Ok, this may sound wierd but lets compare some of this to real science.
Scientists have found a massive void, from my point of view it could in fact be the centre of the Big Bang.
But how did the big bang happen?
What if God were a highly technological being who studied the 'Creation of Life'? what if he were an ascended being?
Those people that say 'Seeing is believing' like the person above) are wrong, what if you took drugs and saw hallucinations? would you believe that they were real? no.
And the end of the world... it could be anything...
It could be from a comet (unlikely) to a full scale war with aother species (most likely)
Why i said that the war was most likely was because in the bible, it says that Satan will come down and rule the planet, those who do not bow before him will be killed.
So lets say at that point we were evolved enough to ascend. He kills those who won't bow before him those people ascend...
He gives drugs for never ending life to his slaves so they would never acsend.
So now lets say that the final war between the ascended beings and satan and his followers.
Satan and his followers will die and ascend. BUT! they will go someplace else... The everlasting inferno... The Lake of Fire *dun dun DUN* ...

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Thats rediculouse, i suppose you dont beileive in global warming either? you know what i dont bielive in? the internet, it dosent exist! hey wait a second... my cat could disprove my thery, as well as he could yous.

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