fffanatics
Mar 4 2008, 05:09 AM
First, a couple of things. People keep saying microsoft is so bad yet how come every time a new update to IE is released, they get over 500 million downloads in the first day? To me it sounds like a lot of people use it? Why do they use it when they have choices like firefox? The reason is that it is a good browser and has been around for a while. It might not be as css complient as firefox but since when does the average user care? The average user just wants to be able to easily navigate a page. This is up to the developer and people tend to develop for IE so it has not issue. Now to respond to this quote: QUOTE You can make a company that prospers even without anti-competitive measures. Take the car industry, for example. Or even the mobile phone industry. They have to follow an established standard, and all the comapnies are doing great. The mobile phone industry is not doing very well and the companies are not all doing great. Right now, Sprint / Nextel are going bankrupt because they do not gain enough users and their market shares are falling. I dont consider that as doing well. The larger companies keep purchasing the smaller ones to the point where most users in my part of the states either have Verizon or ATT (Cingular) since they are the two largest and have the best networks. Microsoft has done nothing wrong bundling software into their OS. You can remove any of it using their add/remove window features very easily. If a OS did not come with a browser, we all would be screwed. It would impossible to get any other software or even a new browser. What if i wanted to listen to music before i obtained my internet connection? I would need a player to do that and it is not a bad one. Finally, Linux and Macs do the same thing. The only reason they are not in trouble with the EU is because their market share is too small for the EU to care and they do not have the finances to be able to make the EU any money.
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Lyon2
Mar 4 2008, 07:10 PM
I could not answer him any better then you fffanatics, not that i would use your words or ven all you pi9nts, but some point i would for sure. And i will repeat, i would do the same thing if i had a company, besides, there are a lot of companies doing what microsoft did and still does, and that is why they stay strong, solid and competitor, exactly what economics needs, and america should thank microsoft for their products and services, i just wish i had a company like microsoft here in Portugal (Europe), we have many rich and powerful companies and people but, not that popular and rich. Who cares if microsoft rules the entire market, go microsoft, i would do the same!
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tricky77puzzle
Mar 4 2008, 10:30 PM
QUOTE(fffanatics @ Mar 4 2008, 12:09 AM)  First, a couple of things. People keep saying microsoft is so bad yet how come every time a new update to IE is released, they get over 500 million downloads in the first day? Ever heard of automatic updates? People don't download it as a standalone install. QUOTE(fffanatics @ Mar 4 2008, 12:09 AM)  Microsoft has done nothing wrong bundling software into their OS. Nor did I say they were. They're wrong in trying to make their software incompatible with others. They're trying to keep their market share up, but pretty soon, it's all going down once users realize what Microsoft has done. Maybe not that much, but still. Enough for them to notice. QUOTE(Lyon2) Who cares if microsoft rules the entire market, go microsoft, i would do the same! I do. For one thing, they're probably going to jack up prices so high that people are going to be forced to pay $1000 for a Windows OS or not use one at all, plus remove all support. Their motif: "Why do we care? We control the whole market anyway. Everyone is dependent on computers nowadays. They've never known a world without it. They'll be forced to comply with us. Giving support only costs money, and money is what we care about." The "only" phone company in America did this before. Then they're going to install backdoors to the FBI, and let hackers who pay them go through their machines. Remember: Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Now, if they gained the whole market by playing fair, I'd be on your side. But the thing is, they didn't.
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Evolix
Oct 19 2008, 03:34 PM
$1.35 Billion is like saying "pay me £5 microsoft!!" because Microsoft / Bill Gates is extremely rich (lucky man) so they can pay the price any day. I have voted for "Too Little".
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rpgsearcherz
Oct 19 2008, 06:17 PM
I really have mixed feelings about this.. Okay, people's issue with Microsoft I can understand. They are mad because Microsoft pretty much dominates the PC industry(Yes I know there are Apple and Unix formats, but that accounts for probably 5% of the people, if not less) But, at the same time...Who designed the PC? Bill Gates. Who put him down and said his idea would never succeed? A lot of investors he spoke to. And now look where it is. So let's go on to the free market that we live in. Everyone has a choice of what they want. You do not want a zune or PC? Go get an Apple or Ipod. Businesses generally run their networks on Unix. So how is he truely 'forcing' his software or computers on people? By making it easy to use? That is like suing someone who makes cars because he is the only person who knows how. Others can create OS's like Windows. If one person can, I guarantee others are capable of doing it as well. But instead of compete(that's the point of an open market, right?) people would rather cry about their failures and inability to learn and adapt. Sorry, this is not to put anyone down or anything, it just bothers me that anytime someone is successful others always have to go around putting them down for their success. People need to learn to suck it up and accept their failures.
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