Is the world coming to an end? Is there more pandemonium today than ever before in history?
The Iraq war, the Timor Leste insurgency, the Congo civil war, the Thailand political crisis, the Israel-Palestinian conflict, the Japan-NorthKorea-US tension, the Bird Flu, the SARS, the Hurricane Katrina, and, they all seem to point the world in one direction: self-destruction.
Why is there so much more fighting in a modern world that champions globalisation, peace and diplomacy? Why is there so much more diseases and natural disasters? Is it God, or is it us?
Hmm, hard to say. We're all to blame though, and God doesn't start wars and conflicts, we do. The world will never be peaceful. There will always be conflicts, but I don't think the world will end. Some events, such as Bird Flu and Hurricane Katrina, there is no one to blame. Basically what I'm saying is some things we can control and some things are just meant to happen, but nothing will be some terrible that the world will end. Any other thoughts?
Forget your religion for a moment and for get God and all the other things that you believe in. You need to drop who you are and your background, and just do some plain thinking with me.
...now that were on the same page. We are all human, no madder what makes us different from each other, we are all people. And people are not the most perfect thing that inhabit this earth. But one thing that we know is we are always fighting at each other for stupid things. I don't think the world will end, but people will be the fate of themselves. Instead of blaming others, we need to start preventing problems, not starting new ones.
People are the fate of themselves. So basicly I think that we will be gone, and what is here will stay, just the animals and nature that surounds us. Anyways, we all will end up killing each other off the planet, unless we can stop locking horns all the time.
But I think the web community and Trap17 Community are a different breed of people. People that have a interest in technology are most often calm and have some sense of common sense, if that makes sense at all. ! Anyways thats a little unclear of a point, but we all get the basic concept around the end of the world.
I think sooner or later the world will come to an end... "Everything that has a beginning has an end!" (Oracle Matrix). Even though it is a quote from a movie it is real and true. Major steps in evolution where taken after great extinctions. The dinosaurs had to become extinct in order for menkind to appear and evolve. Our ancestor the cavemen wouldn't have stood a chance against a T-Rex... We should also remember that death is a part of life. We, as individuals and to generalize as human race, are not made to live forever. Death is a natural part of evolution... if we wouldn't die we wouldn't feel the need to reproduce which is the engine of evolution.
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The Iraq war, the Timor Leste insurgency, the Congo civil war, the Thailand political crisis, the Israel-Palestinian conflict, the Japan-NorthKorea-US tension, the Bird Flu, the SARS, the Hurricane Katrina, and, they all seem to point the world in one direction: self-destruction.
The crisis (some bigger, some smaller) you underlined seem to have only one conclusion: self-destruction. But you should also remember that in recent history menkind has nearly averted some even bigger crisis like the Cold War. It is, up to date, the biggest crisis of all time. We were half an hour away form nuclear war and self-destruction. I believe that the world will someday come to an end, but surely it is no going to be in the next 100 years.
PS: Someday in billions and billions of years the universe and with it life, will come to an end. So end of the world ... yes... tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ... no!
Notice how almost all the predictions made on this page have expired. I think we should stop trying to predict the End of The World, as we're never going to get it right! Besides, doesn't the BIble say that "it will come like a thief", in other words, not forseen by any?
Not us as a generation, no. The fact is that we humans aren't powerful enough to destroy ourselves completely. There will always be survivors, no matter what weapon we use (excluding something completely fictionous like a planetary explosive, ozone decompiler, or terrestrial temperature modifier). However, radiation in space and the limits of speed in the physical world as we know it will pretty much restrict us to this solar system, of which this is the only inhabitable planet (and will remain as such for thousands if not millions of years). That means that either we as a race or our evolutionary descendants (if you believe in that stuff) will be destroyed either by a collision caused by a stellular body (either an asteroid or the moon crashing down on us), or the burning out of Sol (our solar system's star).
To sum it up, we're screwed, but we're just screwed in a very predictable way and we won't be screwed soon enough to make worrying about it worthwhile.
It's our fault there's gonna be an end of the world. But God is the one who's gonna end it. It might be today, tomorrow, the day after.. we won't know.
I think, that we have to define what world is first. There is another question adn that is: "From where did it come from??" only than we can talk about where it is going! People often talk about the end of our lil' earth, but nothing like that really matters to our life and joy in it. We will never be happy even if the world is not about to end because we are surely going to die so why bothering with things like that. Just try to live joyfully and believe me if one lives really joyfully, that is only possible by respecting the nature and everything including earth - if everyone respected themselves and tried to live a really joyfull life than they would respect earth and live according to all the natural laws that are easy to follow...
DON'T TRY TO SAVE THE NATURE, TRY TO LIVE BY HER RULES, BECAUSE EVERYTHING BUT US IN NATURE IS WORKING PERFECTLY!
And obviously, you have never read the Bible, or did not understand it, or you would be quite familiar with the chapter of Revalations, which is DEVOTED to the end of the Earth. And just because you don't believe in a God, or other divine being, doesn't mean there isn't one; take a look at your sig. And honestly, how can you say we got here by our selfs? Things don't come out of no where. not in this universe. it's physically im possible. so how do you suppose we are going to let it all go by our selfs? Don't bash my religon. And no. eventually, a force no matter what it is will come and kill us all, weather it be God, an astroid, Global warming, ice age, you name it. We as humans have these things called limits.
yes i have read the revalations, and yes it does speck of the end of the world in some vaig symbolic manner. yes my beleif is that there isn't a god. and yes it is possible that matter is created out of nowhere. the 'matter may not be created nor desroyed' law does not exist any more. they still teach it in school but it has been proven wrong. you are right about my sig. and you are right that i cannot prove that god doesn't exist. but i can decide to say " hey you know what this god business sounds silly as *BLEEP*". and as a idividual i am aloud to speak my mind and bash anyones religion that i please. there is no doubt that the human race will die eventually but there is nothing stopping us from pulling our heads out of our asses and trying to make that day not come for a while. we should give up all of these materials like money or even the money system.
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You are the most unrealistic thinker i have ever seen. We can't even go to mars yet, so what makes you think that we can to away massive armigeddin sized astroids? They say the next massive astroid is supposed to come in 2036. We don't have the time to build something like that.
how in the world is that unrealistic. god is unrealistic. making a divise to change the path of an astroid is not. we could do it from miles and miles away from earth. using a neclear bomb. and just because the towing idea hasn't been made doesn't mean it isn't possible.
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I never said it did. Maybe if you take the time to actually READ my post, and understand it, you will not say such foolish things.
i never asumed that you did. i was just throwing a point in there.
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No, because i know many atheists who are quite honorable citizens. And you do not know if the being is fictional or not, you will not know untill we pass away, so just keep your mouth closed, and we'll all be happy, mkay?
so wait. you believe in the higher being. and you are saying that i won't know until we pass away.
ok so i am assuming that you have passed away. and you know for sure that there is a god. well damn i guess i was wrong.
what you are going to say is...... 'no i have faith and i beleive and blah blah blah'. well it seems to me by you aproach that you are for sure. and that i am just some dumb person that hasn't been able to grasp the consept of god. and that i will come around. and i will see whenever i am sent to hell for not beleiving. i hear this al the time contadicting staments coming from religion. religon is supposed to bring happyness into peoples lives but it only bring coruption. what i mean is people think they are better just because they beleive in god. they think they have the ticket to their heaven and people who don't beleive are going to be left behind while they advance.
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Girl, I don't think you were alive during the Cold War since you say you just turned 13 this year, and yes, there is always a choice not to use them. That was the whole "Bay of Pigs" thing off the coast of Cuba. Communists aren't the only ones with nuclear warheads. In fact, the only country to actually use the atomic bomb was a capitalist country. That's right, it was America, and Truman got a little eager and pushed the button twice in the space of a few days without waiting for a report on the actual effects of it. Nagasaki didn't need to be bombed. Not that Hiroshima should have been since most historians believe that the war was already coming to a close and there were signs that Japan would surrender soon, but I guess it wasn't quick enough for Truman.
no neither of us where. alive that is. and thank you for backing me up. someone knows there history.
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Sorry, I just had to respond to a particular part of Mermaid's post when I read it.
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Weren't you alive during the Cold War, were you. We don't always have that choice. There is always going to be some crazy @$$ communist dictator out there, who is bent on destruction, and to expand his empire, will use the threat of nuclear warfare. And of course, there will always be that free thinker who decides to rebel.
Girl, I don't think you were alive during the Cold War since you say you just turned 13 this year, and yes, there is always a choice not to use them. That was the whole "Bay of Pigs" thing off the coast of Cuba. Communists aren't the only ones with nuclear warheads. In fact, the only country to actually use the atomic bomb was a capitalist country. That's right, it was America, and Truman got a little eager and pushed the button twice in the space of a few days without waiting for a report on the actual effects of it. Nagasaki didn't need to be bombed. Not that Hiroshima should have been since most historians believe that the war was already coming to a close and there were signs that Japan would surrender soon, but I guess it wasn't quick enough for Truman.
As to when or how the world will end, I will defer to T.S. Eliot's "The Hollow Men,"
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This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper. ~T.S. Eliot (1925)
i keep hearing this and i have to say...... this is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. god, jesus, allah, the bible or whatever you beleive in has nothing to do with the end of the world. the only thing that does is the things that inhabit it. like us. we have more power than let on. just because someone has told you that there is this fantacy figure that will come to destroy the earth and rescue all good from it doesn't mean it is true. if the world is going to end it is because we are going to let it. it is very possible that we can stop anything that is of threat to the earth. it is just a matter of preparation.
First of all, you should capitalize the first letter of eacho of the important religious figures, weather you believe in them or not sorry, that is just my OCD.
And obviously, you have never read the Bible, or did not understand it, or you would be quite familiar with the chapter of Revalations, which is DEVOTED to the end of the Earth. And just because you don't believe in a God, or other divine being, doesn't mean there isn't one; take a look at your sig. And honestly, how can you say we got here by our selfs? Things don't come out of no where. not in this universe. it's physically im possible. so how do you suppose we are going to let it all go by our selfs? Don't bash my religon. And no. eventually, a force no matter what it is will come and kill us all, weather it be God, an astroid, Global warming, ice age, you name it. We as humans have these things called limits.
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lets see........... global warming. the collection of greenhouse gasses in or atmosphere causing temps to rise over time. easy fix pump just enouh gasses into the air to make our atmosphere weaker, or just stop pumping harmful gasses into the air that are makingi t more dense. know it is going to be impossible to get every single person in the world to be energy efficiant but even if 50% of our pop. was, that would be a huge difference.
Good luck with that. It costs thousands of dollars to get appliences that we use everyday replaced. And if you live in america, even in the projects, you live in the top 2% of the ricest people in the world. most of the world lives in polverty, and more than 50% of the world lives a basic, primitive life styles. So basicly its us americans that are screwing it all up. And anyways, over the past century i believe, it says mean tempratures have only risen by one degree. Forget Al Gore and everything he says.
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ok........ death by comet or astroid. this one is a little more difficult. although we do not have the tech. now to stop an astriod the size of texas. it is very possible to create such a thing. they are now thinking of divises (or ships) that could possibly "tow away" or change the direction of an astroid to avoid a deadly impact.
You are the most unrealistic thinker i have ever seen. We can't even go to mars yet, so what makes you think that we can to away massive armigeddin sized astroids? They say the next massive astroid is supposed to come in 2036. We don't have the time to build something like that.
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we even have control over death by nuclear bombs. that is easy. don't use them.
Weren't you alive during the Cold War, were you. We don't always have that choice. There is always going to be some crazy @$$ communist dictator out there, who is bent on destruction, and to expand his empire, will use the threat of nuclear warfare. And of course, there will always be that free thinker who decides to rebel.
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my point is religion has no role in saving the world from distruction. if anything it is just slowing the human race down.
I never said it did. Maybe if you take the time to actually READ my post, and understand it, you will not say such foolish things.
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i know what you are thinking......."well without religion everyone will turn evil" people can still be good to each other without religion. you can beleive in good nature and good will without submiting yourself to a fictional being.
No, because i know many atheists who are quite honorable citizens. And you do not know if the being is fictional or not, you will not know untill we pass away, so just keep your mouth closed, and we'll all be happy, mkay?
But one thing that we know is we are always fighting at each other for stupid things. I don't think the world will end, but people will be the fate of themselves. Instead of blaming others, we need to start preventing problems, not starting new ones.
! Anyways thats a little unclear of a point, but we all get the basic concept around the end of the world.
And honestly, how can you say we got here by our selfs? Things don't come out of no where. not in this universe. it's physically im possible. so how do you suppose we are going to let it all go by our selfs? Don't bash my religon. And no. eventually, a force no matter what it is will come and kill us all, weather it be God, an astroid, Global warming, ice age, you name it. We as humans have these things called limits.
so wait. you believe in the higher being. and you are saying that i won't know until we pass away.
That's right, it was America, and Truman got a little eager and pushed the button twice in the space of a few days without waiting for a report on the actual effects of it. Nagasaki didn't need to be bombed. Not that Hiroshima should have been since most historians believe that the war was already coming to a close and there were signs that Japan would surrender soon, but I guess it wasn't quick enough for Truman.