delivi
Dec 12 2007, 09:46 AM
My safeMail script is more effective than that of jlhaslip , * because his script requires the pages to be in PHP, where as safeMail does'nt need any server side intervention. * you generate the email address for each email address in jlhaslip's script, whereas in safeMail all email addresses added in the prescribed format will be automatically converted into work ones. * the reason why I choose the email format to be CODE myname [at] anydomain [dot] com is because even if the browser doses not support javascript the email address will still be in readable and understandable format. This increases the usability and for the screen reeders. * jlhaslip's script generates the email address in the html entey form, this is still readable by almost all browsers and even spambots( spambots can parse html tags and the html enteties), since the email address is present in the page, as it is generated in the server side there is no use of this script if the spam bots can parse html entities ?? If you find any bugs or face any problems in using safeMail or if there is any security issue plese post it here or in my blog.
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anwiii
Dec 12 2007, 11:43 AM
well i think you BOTH did an excellent job writing your code. i've researched and it's the best i've seen off a simple google search. unfortunately, both still have holes and the code will be outdated sometime next year. i think truefusion is talking about something innovative though. this is what someone needs to create so it will last a couple years with no spam. and if something like what truefusion or my idea(similar concept) can be done, i just don't see any bot capturing any email addresses anytime soon. how could they? problem here is that spam bots are ahead of their time and there is a lot of money to be made with spam bots. unfortunately there isn't alot of money to be made creating a wall for the bots.....at least not until now since an early stage concept to deter bots and how they collect email addresses. i still think you two should be selling your script in an ebook or off clickbank or something similar. at least have it pay for your time because both scripts were excellent for what they can do right NOW and i haven't seen any similar code written....at least with my google searches....and both your webpages never did come up in any of my searches either. i like free scripts and all which go along the same lines as open source, but by selling scripts like this, it could create a trend and more demand for something that will work better in the future. since i am now on the beginning stages of my business website, i will always be searching for that perfect code. until then, i will have to decide which script i i wish to use between the two of ya. yours was simpler to understand for me. i am still trying to decipher part of haslips code. also, in the beginning of his code, it says it doesn't verify if the email address is valid but at the end of the html document, it seems like it does. has anyone set up a test email on a webpage to see if the bots are capturing after doing some seo and submitting to the search engines and posting the web page to a few high profile forums? i'd be interested in some results of someone wants to test it. anyway, i think you both did an awesome job from what i could see and it's not a matter of which is better because both have their pros and cons
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truefusion
Dec 12 2007, 12:53 PM
QUOTE(delivi @ Dec 12 2007, 04:46 AM)  * the reason why I choose the email format to be CODE myname [at] anydomain [dot] com is because even if the browser doses not support javascript the email address will still be in readable and understandable format. This increases the usability and for the screen reeders. Although your script would work without the need of a server-side scripting language, and the munged up e-mail would still be viewable by the user if JavaScript is disabled, according to this webpage ( link), they do not recommend munging up e-mail addresses, because there are already spam bots out there that look for these munged-up e-mail addresses, which defeats the whole purpose of this script. There may be spam bots that can read images with an e-mail address on them, but it seems like that is rare, if any. However, security can be increased if you warp the text on the image while still keeping it good enough to be read by human eyes. Because, i'm assuming, reading an image is the same as having a PDA type letters out by writing on the screen with an attached pen (like those things you see in super markets or when you get a delivery). Warping the text would make it very hard for the spam bot to translate the warped text accurately.
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delivi
Dec 19 2007, 02:33 PM
I'm working an a newer and better solutions that will be more secure and effecient than the present solutions. I'll be using AJAX and flash to process the email address. this will definitely be the most effective solution to keep the spam bots at the bay. 
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MiniK
Dec 19 2007, 02:35 PM
To be honest, I don't mind spam. I don't get many emails so any email makes me happy. xP
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delivi
Dec 24 2007, 08:13 AM
QUOTE To be honest, I don't mind spam. I don't get many emails so any email makes me happy. xP The Anti-Spam or spam protection service is one of the hot industries in the current IT sector. If no one cares about spams then this industry will be doomed
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