Shackman
Feb 26 2005, 10:23 AM
I am not too sure, but for many of you, this is a sensitive topic. I hope the contents of this post do not offend or collide with and religon or beliefs. This is merely a POST!!! Many a time, I ask myself, should we even eat meat? Maybe most of us are aware that animals have to be killed in order for us to obtain thier meat. Little do we know how the animals are killed or the sufferings they encounter. Generally, most chickens are reared large-scale and they are known as battery chickens. The battery chickens are give very poor living conditions. They are known as battery because their cells are like batteries. The chickens are tightly packed together like sardines. Maybe you have been in a crowded bus before. Imagine the agony of squeezing. Those poor chickens are squashed throughout their whole life. The chickens are in a dark shack, lacking sunlight. They are not allowed to move. They are made to lay eggs everyday. They are injected with chemicals to make them produce more eggs. Imagine, a mother giving birth is so much agony, imagine the poor, young chicken, funding Singapore's egg demand! Once the chickens cannot meet the targets by the egg farm, they are sent to the slaughter house. They are first loaded into small and tiny cages and loaded into a lorry. The lorry takes its long and bumpy journey to the slaughter house. The slaughter house is usually at a very rural area and so there are no proper roads. This makes the journey very bumby and the chickens are badly brused. Once the chickens reach the SLAUGHTER HOUSE, they are hung by their legs on a moving conveior belt. They are then dipped, and technically dipped, into a large pan of electrified water, like you dipping french fries into tomato sauce. Some are stunned, some are knocked out but some are unaffected. Their throats are then slit and they are left helplessly to bleed. While they are dieing, workers pluck their feathers off. This all happens when the chicken is bleeding, that means that it is ALIVE!!!!!!!!!. Imagine that. After their featehrs are plucked, they are thrown into canster of water and left to die. Maybe this article has shed some light on your eating habits. Maybe you would think twice about the poor, helpless animal who was slaughtered before you munch happily on their meat. We sound like barbarians. I remember a show named 'Planet of the Apes'. If my memory servers me correctly, there was a scene where the humans were captured in cages. Now, lets take a comparison, when humans are the victims, we make it as though we are prisoners and that we do not deserve this. When we capture animals and put them in the same condition to be killed, we say nothing about it and don't even care about it. Are we being like Apes?? I hope all off us will take time to think about how human domination has cause alot of suffering. Maybe think about the poor animal before eating. -Shackman
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ill
Feb 26 2005, 10:40 AM
Survival of the Fittest. The Food Chain. Just a few examples of why I eat meat.  Plus, it tastes good. I don't like fried chicken though, grilled is a different story.. yummy.
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Furor
Feb 26 2005, 11:21 AM
I think that humans have their teeth shaped in such a way as to rip of stuff like meat. I'm talking about the sharp incisors. And if you look at any plant-eating animal, such as the deer, they don't have them. They have straight flat teeth. Lions have sharp kinfe-like teeth like we do. So I feel there's nothing wrong to it! I might be wrong though.
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Shackman
Feb 26 2005, 12:51 PM
We have flat molars. We have probably evolved to be omnivores through our many thousand years of eating meat. The body has to adapt. -Shackman
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adriantc
Feb 26 2005, 01:03 PM
I think there are many questions regarding the way we treat animals, but this is not one of them. I belive eating meat is normal since we are the most inteligent specie alive, but that does not excuse the suffering of the animals. So we should eat meat but we also must take care of how we treat them. For example, in my country (which is due to enter in EU in 2007) we have a tradition of killing pigs before Christmas and Easter. We do it just by sticking a knife in the pigs throut. I think the pig suffers a lot but that is the way we do it for ages. Since Romania is due to enter in the European Union we will have to adapt. Some have done that already. For example people make the pig drunck and then they kill it. There are still many questions like why do we hunt animals since we no longer need that sort of food for a living. That would be the real question...
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Trystim
Feb 26 2005, 02:05 PM
Yes you bring up a good topic that is sensitive to many people. The fact has been proven if we wouldn't kill these animals to eat them they would eventually overrun the human population and outnumber us severly. How we obtain the meat is a different story such as I will not ever touch veal, reason being it is a cow that from birth is put into a cage so that it can not move so the muscles (meat) stays tender and is not ever toughened once it hits a certain age it is slaughtered. There can't be to much wrong with it if you remember it says in the bible God gave everything to us to use. As stated how we go about using what is given to us may not be the proper way but it is here for our survival. Look at it this way, yes they don't have a verbal form of communication but vegetarians kill living entities also named plants and those in turn actually make it possible for us to live by putting off oxygen for us to breath the tree's alone can not produce the oxygen the world would need to breath and survive. Both vegetarian & and carnivores (meat eaters) have flawed beliefs in why they eat what they eat. My fiance is vegetarian, now she isn't a Vegan which is no animal products at all but she has cut about 95% of animal products from her diet. I am a meat eater and we get along just fine it costs us more to shop and get our food mainly due to vegetarian items costing alot more then stuff I eat but we understand we each have our own belief's and we share our opinions but that is extent of it neither of us force the others belief's on each other. just my opinion in the post thanks for reading.
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Neutrality
Feb 26 2005, 02:08 PM
Well think about this question as a hypothetical question: if humans did not eat meat at all, if not one single human ate meat, do you know what would happen? More deadly diseases would spread and be formed from the rotting corpses of the animals. Instead of slaughtering them, they would just die naturally and their corpses would probably rot some-where (unless you burn their bodies). Look at India for example. In most places, cows are considered to be sacred, so those Indians refrain from eating cow meat, and some even go vegetarian. So instead of eating them, they are going to let the cows die off. Their rotten corpses will give off diseases (possibly mad cow disease), and many humans will die in that area. You see, when humans stop eating animals, diseases begin to form and spread. But, another important factor is that meat contains important vitamins that most fruits and vegetables don't have - protein. Protein breaks down into amino acids, which help humans fight off certain diseases, and help increase the health of their immune systems. These are two reasons why eating meat is important.
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dundun2007
Feb 26 2005, 02:32 PM
I beleive its all about the food chain, every animal or mammal needs another one in order to survive. For example we dont all need meat to survive but thats where most of out minerals comes from, and besides meat is how people surived thousands of years ago. There is people who only eat veggies but then theres a huge % of people that do eat meat almsot everday. According to the earlier years meat was something you had to hunt for, which shows how other animals hunt as well.
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Caveman
Feb 26 2005, 06:03 PM
There are two notions pulling my head in opposite directions. The first one: I firmly believe that animals were not placed on earth to serve humans; i.e. they must not be used as means to our own ends. In this sense, technically, killing an animal for its meat WOULD be morally wrong. The other one: the inevitable introduction of Darwinism into the picture would suggest that humans ARE the only animals (as far as we know) that possess a flow of logic. That is, we are capable of making our own judgements while resisting impulse. Animals cannot do that: they must give in to their primitive desires. Hence, it would make sense for us to dominate the food chain. And when you're at the top, nothing's going to stop you from getting what you want. I guess what I'm trying to say is...eating meat is morally wrong, but biologically correct. I am a carnivore, BTW. I am not a huge fan of meat, but I'll get my basket of chicken fingers here and there, a hot dog at the baseball game, a McDonald's hamburger for a quick lunch, etc. Although it's not something that crosses my mind when I'm actually eating, I have thought about it on my own time. I do feel pretty bad about it, but it's not something I can exactly change my lifestyle over...I have nothing against vegetarians, but I just don't think I'd like to become one myself. Hehe. Rock on
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JaVe
Feb 27 2005, 02:44 AM
Yes well i don't support mcd's or anything, they mix cardboard with their burgers. I like chilis and fuddruckers though hehe! But, get to the point, sure, our teeth are not meant for ripping meat, but i've got some mega incisors:  Plus meat is very tasty. And, cavemen ate meat, if they said "Hey, meat is cruel, don't eat it" - we'd not be alive, they didn't have the technology to make soya burgers. BUT - still from soya burgers todya, we get our proteins from REAL meat & fish and vitamins from vegetables. Just my opinion.
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iGuest
Oct 12 2009, 07:40 AM
Find your own answer ..
Is Eating Meat Morally Correct?
I think all people here are missing on one important point here. 
The moral
Question of eating animals can not be completely answered since it has to
Do something with 'moral' which is strongly related to feelings. Each individual
Thinks and feels differently according to his/her community, beliefs and logics so there will be thousand different
Opinions on this topic.
I believe there are two different type of meat eating people: "One who
Kill and eat", "One who do not even want to think about
Killing animals or become part of it but love eating meat".
Frankly I do not have problem with the first type of people, they
Have genuine reasons to kill and eat animals. You can find these people
In few undeveloped countries. With few exceptions, these people
Are probably very well connected to nature and their living depends on
Animals. By witnessing the whole process of killing and eating
Animals they know exactly what they are doing. They eat to live and take
Full responsibility of what they do with animals and nature. You will
Find these people helping nature in one way or other.
I have problem with the second group of people. I think these people as coward since they lack courage to even witness or become part of killing and meat production system. They make-up the vast meat eating human
Population. These people live in posh houses and are probably living
Urban life and are least connected to nature. Their nature might be
Limited to few episodes of 'jaws and claws' on nature related channels.
They believe or think that meat comes factory in nicely cleaned, packed boxes and do not get into details or
Avoid to think on this topic. When asked they can give all sorts of
Reasons like "animals are made for humans" "I eat farmed animals which
Are made for eating" "by killing animals we keep their population under
Control" or they put forward number games like "earth does not enough
Green plans to feed humans" or health reasons like "vegetables lacks in
Vitamins and minerals".
If you give a knife in their hand and ask them to kill a small
Animal they might look at you as if you are asking them to kill a
Human. If they spend couple of days in animal slaughter house they will
Faint and will not be able to even sleep peacefully without sleeping
Tablets for couple of days. These people eat animals because they eat
For taste and do not want to spoil their meal time by thinking about
The animal or the pain it would have gone through. They can eat
Anything if its tasty, yummy, crunchy which packed nicely in some fancy
Box. Some people might find it disturbing but these people can eat even
Human flesh if its nicely packed, fried without any blood stains since
They are hardly connected to sources. Their only worry will be "Is is
Safe?" 'Is it fresh ?" "Is it high in protein?" "Is it organic?"
One makes the riffle, other one transports it, one puts it on a
Machine, other one feeds in bullets, one remotely pushes the trigger,
Bullet hits the animal ( can be human ), other one transports the body to cleaning, one cleans
It, other one chops it into pieces, one packets them into nice boxes,
Other one transports them to city food processing plants, one cooks
Them,other one sells them. Finally we eat in food chain outlets with yummy taste. Cycle complete!
My answer to the moral question is "You become part of whole process, at least take some time to understand it, witness it, feel it closely. You will find your own answer! no need to ask or tell."
Open your eyes and senses don't live deaf and dumb life..
-reply by Harry
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iGuest
Aug 23 2009, 01:10 AM
Meat Eaters are Demons!
Is Eating Meat Morally Correct?
I think meat eaters are barbarians, demons, ghost and killer. We should refrain from killing. Animals are our relatives, ancestors, brother, sister, mum and dad. Love animal and show that you are HUMAN.
-reply by Bikesh Shrestha
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iGuest
Aug 11 2009, 07:23 PM
I'd just like to point out that we'd live in a very sad world if we were all Vegetarian/Vegan. I'm from a farming background. It's what my whole family have done for centuries and they wouldn't be farming animals if no one ate meat. There would be no money to live as no one would want the meat. So, say were all Vegetarian/Vegan, what happens...We only have wild animals in the countryside as no one is prepared to farm sheep, cattle, pigs etc etc etc. I find so many people are extremely naive about the whole thing and, not that I've read all these, but rob86, you're entitled to your opinion, but if wild animals weren't kept under control, we would be in a complete mess!! By the way, I'm personally an animal lover too, but I know the consequences only too well if we don't get the balance right!
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VishBoy
Jul 20 2009, 09:25 PM
Well, I can not comment about this Topic, 'cos I don't eat meat  I don't think that Meat is Morraly Incorect Everybody can it what he want's end when he wants
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The Simpleton
Jun 20 2009, 09:03 AM
QUOTE Related to this subject, what really annoys me is people who claim to be vegetarian and use all the common anti-meat defenses "it's cruel! it's unnatural!" but it's really because they're overweight and ashamed to admit they're eating vegetables because they're on a diet. I often have barbecues and sometimes a vegetarian cousin will come over and they'll want a fish burger or tofu burger instead of a cheeseburger. They'll tell you how bad it is to eat meat blah blah blah and try to make you not enjoy your food, and it's so obvious they are only saying that to convince themselves to stay away from the fattening stuff. It's the George Costanza phenomenon. "It's true if I believe it's true!" Well I'm a vegetarian although I don't fit into that description, and I'm certainly not overweight Anyway I hate those kind of people, who just pretend to be vegetarians.... Coming to me, I'm a vegetarian by birth (it's a family rule) and so I've never eaten meat in my life, and don't have an intention either. I am free to bend that rule but even after "seeing" all the "tastes" that meat offers, I have no thought to change. But I don't go around telling people to turn vegetarian, because I know it won't have any effect on them! Just like rob86 pointed out some "anti-meat" defenses, there are tons of people who would dish out "pro-meat" defenses if anyone forced them to change their habits! I personally feel that the world is better off as it is now, and anyone who wants to change their food habits are free to do so. But forcing others to change....now that is immoral, even if it is right! Early man ate meat, there's no denying it. But if he loved meat so much, why did he turn to farming later?  The choice began there itself. And it is best to leave it that way - let each individual choose his own taste. Their decision is not going to have any major effect on today's world, and no matter how much people crib about it, most of the world will continue eating meat in this world, and they'll never have had enough! Vegetarians don't lose out that much on taste. A few spices ought to do the trick with any recipe. That's the main reason I've never been tempted to eat meat till today - I haven't run out of tastes yet!  I don't know how it's like for vegetarians in other countries, though.
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