sfgfan10
Jan 31 2006, 07:34 PM
QUOTE(mystmag @ Jan 8 2006, 07:49 AM) I recently downloaded Macromedia's Dreamweaver 8, and I can say that it is the greatest webdesigner that the world has ever seen! The only problem is that it costs too much money in my tastes, but otherwise it is perfect! Does anyone know of a webdesigning studio that does not cost any money and that can be downloaded off the internet? I tried using Notepad++ (search Google, I cannot recall the site) and it is a coder, but not a webdesign. It doesn't actually show you what the site will end up looking like, but it shows you colour-coded codes for your site. Any suggestions for good webdesigners? I personally use dreamweaver for my website, and I love it. I mostly use the normal (non-coding) view, as I don't know any programing languages, and its incredibly easy. I've also learned a little bit of html from looking at the code on my website and copying the code to posts on other sites. I love it.
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Nibbler26
Feb 5 2006, 04:51 PM
Wow.. So Dreamweaver Is That Good? I Heard That People Start Designing It In Photoshop And Then Transfer The Code Into Dreamweaver.
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SecretSocietyofStoners
Feb 7 2006, 07:56 AM
Having spent since late '94 using text editors to build web pages, I've come to expect certain things. The most important is that any web page I write only changes when I want it to. With a text editor, you always have complete control over your web page. Now with some visual HTML editors, this does not hold true. I've experimented with loading pages into both Netscape and Microsoft products and then saving the result. The page may or may not still look the same, but the HTML behind the page almost always has been changed. Merely opening the page in some editors *automatically* changes your HTML even if you make no edits of your own on that page. If you have gone to the time and expense of building a valid web site, you don't really want semi-random changes to that site. Dreamweaver is a powerful tool for developing and maintaining web sites that will respect your HTML. The full commercial package includes a lot of tutorial information to help you start your web sites, and either Homesite 4.0 (for PCs) or BBEdit 5.0 (for Macs) which are stand-alone text based editors. Having both a good visual editor and a good text editor in one package can be a real advantage for a small company. It will give people a choice of tools to use, and some will prefer one to the other. peace out
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technocrat
Feb 8 2006, 01:16 PM
I still think dreamweaver is one of thes BEST tools of a webdesigner .. Just cos i really love the functionality and also the the way the tools are placed i just hoped dreamweaver could become some kinda php GUI interface
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mama_soap
Feb 8 2006, 03:17 PM
QUOTE(SecretSocietyofStoners @ Feb 7 2006, 01:26 PM) 
Having spent since late '94 using text editors to build web pages, I've come to expect certain things. The most important is that any web page I write only changes when I want it to. With a text editor, you always have complete control over your web page.
Now with some visual HTML editors, this does not hold true. I've experimented with loading pages into both Netscape and Microsoft products and then saving the result. The page may or may not still look the same, but the HTML behind the page almost always has been changed. Merely opening the page in some editors *automatically* changes your HTML even if you make no edits of your own on that page. If you have gone to the time and expense of building a valid web site, you don't really want semi-random changes to that site.
Dreamweaver is a powerful tool for developing and maintaining web sites that will respect your HTML. The full commercial package includes a lot of tutorial information to help you start your web sites, and either Homesite 4.0 (for PCs) or BBEdit 5.0 (for Macs) which are stand-alone text based editors. Having both a good visual editor and a good text editor in one package can be a real advantage for a small company. It will give people a choice of tools to use, and some will prefer one to the other.
peace out
I think you have said pretty much everything that I wanted to say  I have not spent the last decade using text editors, and I am relatively new to the whole web design scene - but I did start off with Emacs, moved on to Vi and I now use Kate for programming, Kile for scientific typesetting and Quanta for interactive web editing when I need it. So there... slightly fancy text editors without the WYSWIG has been what's worked for me of late. I must say I completely second the post above, especially with regard to the point it makes about not having full control over the code generated. I have a special distaste for Frontpage as a consequence (sorry to FP fans, no offence!). I'm sure DW is powerful and beautiful; and even better when used with PS or other tools, but for me it's a ) been too expensive and b ) not accesible (me use Linux most of the time, so...). Cheers!
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Sizux
Feb 9 2006, 11:53 PM
Dream Weaver is only good if you fully understand it. And to understand it, you must read several tutorials and have a lot of patience. Sure, getting the basics down is very easy, but once you want to improve and go more advance, that's when things start getting complicated. Then again, almost all website creators follow the same manner.
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BOAW
Feb 10 2006, 01:17 AM
i think adobe golivecs2 is the best webdesigner program...it does n has about everything u need...u really have to look it up though...you can mess with the codes and itll change the color of the codes so u know wut they are n u can actually preview it unlike dreaweaver i belive...u can even mount on to ur server if u have ur own and edit a page from the server and then update it...very easy n fast using www.boaw.95mb.com this is a site ive made usin adobe golive cs2
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PDG
Feb 17 2006, 09:45 AM
You made a big mistake. Dereamviewer is the worst to design site. I hate this program, although I should use it.
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sharpz
Feb 23 2006, 07:21 AM
Uhhh, one i tried a long time ago that worked pretty nicely was cofeecup HTML editor, might want to check it out. Otherwise, just use notepad and Internet Explorer or Firefox for previewing / debugging.
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Dregnought
Mar 3 2006, 10:04 AM
QUOTE(PDG @ Feb 17 2006, 07:45 PM)
You made a big mistake.
Dereamviewer is the worst to design site.
I hate this program, although I should use it.
Why do you say that?
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