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I had this problemshow I fixed it was put in a windows 98 start up diskonce its load type ( fdisk /mbr ) -minus brackes.what this does is fixes the corupted boot.ini file
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mbacarra
ok, i'll just cut to the chase, since i'm only using the pc from our school's library (this isn't free and my time's almost up). last night i was accessing my device manager so i could change my audio playing from digital to analog (so i could put the earphone on the cd jack). anyway, when i accessed it, my pc started to hang. but i was able to resolve it when i closed the program down. but that's not my problem (it's just my introduction). when i restarted my pc (since i had to do some other things), the pc couldn't shut down. after windows says "saving your settings", it just hangs there. when i pushed the reset button and my pc started running, i get the message "disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter". i opened my cpu to check on the wirings, but everything's totally connected. at start up, there were times that the pc detects the hard drive but the message still occurs but there were times that the pc doesn't detect it and has the same message. yet, it detects the cdrom.

i'm starting to freak out since i have a lot of deadlines and i'm losing so much time. please help me. i will check on this forum later when i have time. thanks everyone!

 

 

 


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terminal2k
if you're receiving this message and the cables connecting you hard drive to the motherboard are connected properly you have most likely got some issue with the harddrive itself, it could be broken, but most likely when you have re-set the computer before its shutdown properly there has been some corruption of data on the drive itself. if you are of limited tech knowledge try and get a geeky mate to look at it for you, they may even be able to recover the data from the drive itself. otherwise try taking it to your local computer shop and see if they can do anything for you. If the data on it is not important to you at all, you can always look at re-installing windows and see if that fixes your issue (warning sometimes this will cause the harddrive to be formatted which will kill everything you had on there)

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Inspiron
You have tried opening your PC case and looked into physical wirings and found no problems.

There's a possibility, as what terminal2k suggested, that some Windows critical data might be corrupted, which might be still in handling at the time which you thought the PC had freezed, and manually forced the computer to reset by pressing the reset button. Likewise with powering down a computer while it is will processing data will most likely to cause data lose or corruption.

However I think that your harddisk might be failing due to the fact that it is bought pretty long ago. Harddisk machanism will wear and tear everytime the disc spins. In other words, they will continue to wear and tear once your computer is powered on. This is unavoidable. However you can reduce the chances of damage and extend a harddisk lifespan by frequently defragmenting your harddisk partitions. Along time, file clusters are spreaded into many fragments on the physical disc when you create, modify, or delete files. Whenever your harddisk searches for a file, its acuator arm needs to locate the positions of the clusters and deliver them as a complete single file back to the user as a result. With multiple fragments for a single file, the acuator arm is stressed to search for those microscopic clustors. This will therefore degrades your harddisk lifespan faster. To solve, do defrag your harddisk frequently so as to extent its lifespan, as well as allow your harddisk to perform searches faster.

I can suggest you to scan your harddisk for bad sectors and defrag all partitions when you are able to access back to your desktop again. Remember to backup all your important files as well. Otherwise, if you are unable to return back to desktop and the same error message keeps prompting, you might have do a full reformat to your hard drive. Also, be prepared to purchase a new harddisk to replace the faulty one if reformatting will not help. Please also note that you will not be able to recover any of your files on your current harddisk if you are unable to boot back to your desktop.

 

 

 


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Saint_Michael
To pretty much sum it up your reinstalling your computer and worse case senerio you getting yourself a new hard drive.

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Galahad
Others covered most possibilities, and most common reasons for errors that occured to you. I would just add a couple (one actualy smile.gif) of my own, from personal experience...

I had a faulty IDE cable, which, at one point, when I added another HDD, and accidentaly moved this faulty cable, caused very freaky results... Everything worked, BUT... About 3 or 4 minutes after Windows would start, they would freeze, and I just had to restart my comp, over and over again... Until, one time... I just got, "Disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter"... I immediately froze, as I realized that my hard disk died at worst, or at best, I lost all my data, all I needed for work... When I realised it was due to faulty cable, I ripped it out, and I sliced it into tiny pieces, and actualy set it on fire in my yard laugh.gif Anyways, to cut the long story short, check your cables... If at startup your computer sometimes detects, and sometimes doesnt detect you hard disk, it may be due to a faulty cable... I am about 90% sure that you data is gone, but don't lose hope... There are ways to recover your data, even from damaged harddisk... Just don't format it, and install anything on it, before attempting to get the data out...

And I agree, you should have some of your geeky nerdy friends check out what's happening with your hard disk... There are way too much possibilities, and way too little information, for us to correctly guess...

Hope any of this helped just a little...

Oh, and keep us informed on what happened to your computer...

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Earths Daughter
The easiest thing to do would be to just restart in safe mode, and do a scandisk on your HDD, instructing it to fix any errors it finds.

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mbacarra
the problem is i have so many files that are really really important stored in the drive. my dad has files too and so as my brothers. i'm starting to freak out because i have a deadline tomorrow and on thursday so i really need to fix the pc. with that said, i don't have enough time to seek help from a geeky friend since it would take more time. most of my geeky friends live near the school while i live miles away. i wouldn't mind bringing it to a computer shop but unfortunately, most of the computer shops in our subdivision are quite inefficient.

anyway, i've checked the cable connections again last night and they were all intact. and the pc can now detect the hard drive yet the message still occurs. i've searched it up on the net and some said that i need a boot up disk so i could fix the problem. some said it is included in the windows installer but i don't know where my brother placed our installer (and unfortunately, he's in japan right now and he is the only person who has the ability to fix the pc).

it sucks to think that i'm studying computers yet i can't even fix my own pc. it's just that when you say you're a computer science student, people (and even i) assume that i can do those hardware stuff and all. or maybe i just need to buy a new pc.

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tuddy
Can i ask, are you running Windows XP? If so, i suggest you try either Windows BOOT Disk or the Windows XP Disc in thier 'respective' drives and then try to boot up.

I have a feeling something in your BIOS has changed due to resetting your computer. When booting your system, enter the BIOS (Usually by pressing F1,F2, DEL.), set defaults, then save and exit.

I had the same problem, and that is what fixed it. I know it has something with the BIOS setting, as to which one, i haven't quite figured that out yet. Mainly BOOT settings i'd guess.

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epox
ok man, first don't worry, all in this life has a solution, it seems to be you have a common problem, and afortunately it is no hard to resolve, may be you change the boot configuration and sure you are trying to boot your system from other device but your hard disk drive, and that's the reason you can't see the hated and loved windows logo bothering you. an important fact is that it seems you don't have damaged your operative system, and that's really good, or you will have to feconfigure your operative system, so in this order of ideas, i am going to tell you how i fix my computer when this kind os troubleshutings happends. here we go:

1. start your computer

2. when the machine starts, in the very beginning, there are a kind of messages that say like this:
setup->f2 or
setup->del
depending on what it says, press the key it says, and then you are in your BIOS

3. search a tab that say system, or boot, or something like that.

4, when you find it, there will be a series of configuration about the way your pc starts, like

boot sequence.
fast boot.
try other devices.

5. set this values with the + and - keys, or simply take a look at the bottom of the screen and there will be a description of how to use the BIOS menu, change this values to:

boot sequence->(hard disk drive where your operative system is running)
fast boot->enabled
try other devices->enabled.

with this settings it is sure your computer will start with your operative system, with the try other devices enabled, the BIOS search for all the drives installed on the machine, so you are not going to fail.

if this doesn't work, sorry man, may be you will have to take a visit to some technic, or post back to trap17. i hope it is useful

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mbacarra
QUOTE(tuddy @ Feb 21 2006, 09:51 AM) *

Can i ask, are you running Windows XP? If so, i suggest you try either Windows BOOT Disk or the Windows XP Disc in thier 'respective' drives and then try to boot up.



i'm using windows xp home. the other hard drive is using windows 98. i saw from websites that i have to create a boot disk. i already have one but i don't know how to modify the boot.ini file.

QUOTE(epox @ Feb 21 2006, 10:42 AM) *

5. set this values with the + and - keys, or simply take a look at the bottom of the screen and there will be a description of how to use the BIOS menu, change this values to:

boot sequence->(hard disk drive where your operative system is running)
fast boot->enabled
try other devices->enabled.


i have two drives one is using xp and the other is using 98. should i choose the former for the boot sequence? what do these actually do and how does it work?


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iGuest
I had this problems
how I fixed it was put in a windows 98 start up disk
once its load type ( fdisk /mbr ) -minus brackes.

what this does is fixes the corupted boot.ini file

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Magic1492
Do you have a boot disk on hand? If you don't get on a different computer and go to this website (www.bootdisk.com) and get one, I recommend a windows XP copy. Or you can go the Linux route and get a linux live cd. I reccommend KNOPPIX (www.knoppix.org) That has a graphical interface and it's easier to back up your data. If you manage to get one of those running, you can either attempt to recover your disk, or reformat the disk.

Hope you can get it working again!

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Bad-Boy

Last month i was having the same problem , that is really awfull think that time again ! ph34r.gif
I can understand what a person can feel when recieving such erorrs.
Finally , i got rid of this awfull problem by purchaing a new branded PC rolleyes.gif
just i think that is the best way that i have selected...

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Wasser
Well, why don’t you try to restart the computer and use a boot disk with some utilities to check on your HDD so you can be sure that it doesn’t have any problems? Because if the HDD doesn’t detect the system it could be a failure on the MBR that is the first part of the HDD and is where is stored the info that is read by the bios to recognize what it should run and everything else.

There is a program called HDD Regenerator that doesn’t touch your files and what it does is a physical scan on the disk to look after bad sector (parts of the HDD that are damaged), those causing, possibly, your computer not to boot. So the program will check your disk and try to correct those errors.

Possibly you will be able to start windows after that, but my recommendation is that you back up all the files, because in one way or another, the disk has problem and it could be possible to stop working again. After you fix it, it can also be possible (if it FOUND and FIX problems) that still your computer doesn’t enter to windows, in that case I recommend you that you take your HDD to another computer enter to Windows with the HDD of the other computer and from that Windows copy all your important files.

Hope it helps! biggrin.gif

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guppy23
I hope I'm not too late.
Try changing the motherboard cmos battery. I suspect your cmos battery voltage has dropped into the weak range. And that is why your computer gets the error, sometimes. Certain motherboards are picky about the battery voltage. Once the voltage drops out of this narrow range of possible voltages. Your pc then gets alz_hei_mer's dis_ease.


bob

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