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Death Penalty For Rapists.

s2k6
I think that rapists should get the death penalty. I believe that anyone who makes a woman/man/thing do that against his/her/its will should just be killed. It leaves a woman feeling like crap. Post feedback pleasae.

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Reaper
I don't know i think what they should do is first castrate them and then after that they must make a complete fool of them but i'm mean like take them took some really big and busy place and let everyone know what they did. and then after that don't put them to death let them lose and see how long they can survive after that.


yeah i know that is against their consitutional right but as far as i'm concerned when they decided to do something like that they just thew away all their consitiutional rights right there and then !!!!

lets see how quickly oaks will try to rape people when they see what happens to a few examples !!

 

 

 


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rldowling03
No most deifinately NOT. I mean rape is bad but just becuase someone did it once deisn't mean they shouldn't live anymore. We have no right to decide who lives and who dies, it isn't right for anyone to just be killed just becuase they rape someone, maybe if they rape many many people and im not just talking about 2 or 3 people.

Well I recently wrote a 3 page argument on Capital Punishment so this stuff is all in the back of my mind.

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Reaper
the main reason why guys rape women on such a big scale is because of the way you thinking. did this person have choice in weather they were going to get rape or not ?? NO they didn't they were just brutally raped for no other reason than some sexually frustrated oak could get someone to sleep with him or whatever. So now you say how can someone choose wheather they live or die. As far as i'm concerned the minute they even thought about that they don't deserve to have a choice anymore.

Maybe they only did it to one person but where does end then. Where do you draw the line at two or three or twenty. That person who got raped life has been changed for ever and they had no say in that !!!


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shadowx
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So now you say how can someone choose wheather they live or die. As far as i'm concerned the minute they even thought about that they don't deserve to have a choice anymore.

Maybe they only did it to one person but where does end then. Where do you draw the line at two or three or twenty. That person who got raped life has been changed for ever and they had no say in that !!!


True words smile.gif

im fed up with people who take in their duty to ruin other peoples lives. personally i belive if anyone touches my stuff or me in a threatening way i have every right on the universe to strike em down. The law is nothing. So what the bad guy gets caught all the police do is tell them they should do it tell them not to do it again and let them go! Great justice sherlock.

But i dont think we should kill them, thats too easy. Instead we kill two birds with one stone. Why tyest on INNOCENT (and usually rather cute) animals when we have prisons full of blokes who think it is right to do such things to women and even to men. Prisons full of people who have murdered, tortured, maimed and wrecked other people and their lives. Perform the darn tests on them guys and girls! I dont care about human rights! If you decide to do such a thing you throw your rights away. Like i said zero tollerance, kill em but even better torture them before they die.

And dont bring up the whole "but then youre as bad as them argument." I'm not a threat to the public if im taking away the threat. Surely that argument would mean that all police offers who have made an arrest should be in jail? All parents who have ever hit their children (if the kids are being a pin in the a** not just hitting them for fun) should also be hit. That argument just doesnt work anymore.

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Madkat-Z
Ok, I understand where your comming from on this issue, but I think death might be a little bit extreme in this case. I don't think if you rape someone you should automatically get the death penity, however, if you give the person you raped an STD, especially one that could kill you in the long run or have adverse long term effects, or it is done extreamly bruitally then it should be considerd a life in prison or death penitaty case. However the punishment for repeat offenders I think should be if its your third strike then you should be considered for a hefty jail term, but not death. Plus I don't know if this is done arleady, but I rapists should be required to pay the victum compinsation as well, but I know that may not easy the pain of the victum, but at least it might be somewhat a deterant.

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DJ Panic
Say, someone raped 1 person. That doesn't really mean they should die just because of that. Like say that person raped people more than once, then their highest time would be around 10 years. But say if they raped then killed them, they hell yeah. They should get the death penalty.

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mik
The death penalty is a bad idea for any crime in my opinion. To me it is not an argument about "justice", or "retribution" or "revenge" or a "warning" to other would-be criminals. It is all about the potential for a miscarriage of justice to have occurred, and should that be the case there is no bringing the executed person back to life. However, if the recipient of such a miscarriage were merely serving a prison sentence for life, the authorities can quite easily right a wrong and release that wrongly incarcerated prisoner back into society.

Miscarriages of justice are all too easy to allow and happen on too frequent a basis to be complacent about this subject. Some feel that just one miscarriage which results in the death penalty is one too many.

There is a website that documents almost 2,000 cases where a miscarriage of justice was subsequently proven to a court's satisfaction to have occurred, and the person convicted exonerated. The cases reflect a problem that has been around for a long time and data comes from many different countries.

In April 2004 the American Civil Liberties Union stated that in the last 30 years 122 inmates on death row in the US were found to be innocent and released. There has been no information about the number of inmates on death row in the US that were wrongly convicted and then put to death.

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Reaper
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Say, someone raped 1 person. That doesn't really mean they should die just because of that. Like say that person raped people more than once, then their highest time would be around 10 years. But say if they raped then killed them, they hell yeah. They should get the death penalty.


So you are saying it is ok to rape someone acutually a few people but killing them is not allowed ???? So they can go around raping as many people as they want as long as they do not kill them it is fine. i don't know but that would be giving a wrong type of message. You can commit crimes aslong as they are not too violent then it is cool .

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kasm
QUOTE(s2k6 @ Aug 24 2006, 06:39 PM) *

I think that rapists should get the death penalty. I believe that anyone who makes a woman/man/thing do that against his/her/its will should just be killed. It leaves a woman feeling like crap. Post feedback pleasae.

Yes it should if it approved without reasoning doubt.

I know in many countries where the death penalty exist, they executed the rapist especially when victims are children.

But the problem is in countries where is no death penalty. How you deal with the matter In Australia there is one who killed more than 30 persons and he is still living.

The strange of these countries where no death penalities, some judges discharge rapist for children and said the child can forget this truma. Very very strange.

Also in these countries, claiming by the woman for rape can convict the person even though he is innocent. Thank God they don't executed him. So the mistake in this matter is more than the mistake of murdering case. Revenge also happened.

For that I agree that in murder and rape, the death penality is applied as long as it is approved without any doubt as the case of child rape [dna can be strong evidence] or one who kill 35 in supermarket before hundereds of shopper. No justification for not applying the death penalities in such cases.

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iGuest
And have YOU ever been raped?
Death Penalty For Rapists.

Replying to rldowling03
Considering your idiocy, I'm going to assume that you haven't. Well, let me tell you something: when you are raped, you DIE inside. It haunts you, controls your life. Imagine, at the BEST, years of living in fear of any man that approaches you, even if he's someone you've known forever. Then there's the flashbacks, or, if you were too young/too scared to report what happened to you, you run the risk of running into the jackass again. At the worst, imagine all of that but it never goes away.

Two or three people? Anyone who rapes two or three people deserves, not only death, but the worst death possible. Raping even ONE person is too much. Your mentality makes it sound like you think rape is no big deal. Well, let me tell you something, that is RAPIST MENTALITY.

Rape is the worst crime in the world. Disagree with me? Prove me wrong.

-reply by Hannah

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iGuest
Replying to s2k6
Well honestly it does make a girl feel like crap and whether the rapist is dead or not she is still going to have to live with the pain forever. If the rapist is put into jail then he will get what he deserves meaning he will get raped in jail...Therefore he has to feel the pain that he put his victim through.

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dcshaw.en
I was just getting ready to type a reply to this thread...
When I realized I'd already replied to it a couple months ago.

So I'm not really going to repeat anything I've said. (That's a lie, but it'll be quick)
It does make me a little sad though that there are still people in this thread that just say "KILL THEM!"
Think your answers through, people.
Reply with logic, not your stupid spite.
And if you do happen to lean towards the side of the argument in favor of the death penalty, at least back yourself up with some reason.

From what I've read here
Pretty much no one who was in favor of the death penalty for rapists actually gave a decent post.
Yet,
Essentially everyone who opposes it took the time to explain* themselves.

Anyway,
I just thought I'd throw in a little update.

However, when I'd posted originally, there wasn't really anyone who was looking at the topic subjectively and without a degree of bias.
Now that I've come back and looked at it again,
Since my last post, there have actually been some good replies.
Kudos.

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Joshua
QUOTE(KainRacure @ Feb 5 2008, 05:01 PM) *
Honestly, this type of thing should be decided on a case by case basis. A sweeping rule of rape = death will not get anyone anywhere.

Plus did you know that in the USA (at least here) the only thing that they need to convict someone of a sexual assault case (of any magnitude) is someone saying it happened. No evidence or anything needed.

I know a friend who is on the sex offender list because he baby sat for his cousin and the mother randomly said he molested the kid. (the child said NOTHING in court) No proof was given, heck they didn't even give an actual date, just said it was "sometime in the month of feb. around the kid's birthday" He served jail time and is now a sex offender for life and can't even get a job because of it.

What if you were dating a girl (or guy) who you had a bad break with and then they charged you with raping them? Would you feel that you should instantly be put to death then?

Also what if someone has mental issues and attempts a rape but has no idea of what he is doing? Should he not be treated different then someone who intentionally inflicts pain and abuse knowing that it is wrong?

The laws are WAY too easy to mess with to allow death on one occasion. Sure if he is convicted, they have PROOF (tangible evidence), and/or if it was multiple times/people then yeah, skrew the sick freak.

Another idea would be to create a prison specifically for this kind of people and keep them there indefinitely. It would be more humane and take care of the problem of them entering society.

And in all honesty the only thing we need is for them not to be able to do this stuff again. Vengeance is not good for anyone, it is one of the worst things a person can live with and randomly projecting vengeful thoughts on others you do not know or understand is ignorant and useless, if we proceed in doing such things as that then we might as well be a mob with torches calling for the burning of a witch. (noting that most witch burnings were due to ignorance and the people burnt (or hung or drown or killed whatever way) were for the most part simply random people, not witches (not even in the sense of being a religion which uses magic and witchcraft or anything of the sort))

In short before you call for EVERYONE who is a rapist to be murdered (and that IS what it is, wither justified or not) learn about the circumstances of each case and then make your decision.


Exactly what I was talking about. Here in the U.S., it's guilty until proven innocent when you're a guy accused of a sexual crime. Even when you get out of prison society will continue to punish and it's very difficult for those accused to find jobs.

I realize this is a sensitive issue for people, but we can't even put the right people on Death Row as is! Look at all the people getting pardoned! People really don't mind killing innocents just so they can put the guilty to death? I bet they'd change their tune when they're the ones on Death Row for crimes they didn't commit.

All it takes these days is for a girl to get mad at someone and accuse them of sexual abuse for that person's life to get completely ruined. It takes no evidence at all aside from one vague testimony. There is zero accountability for judges and prosecutors who make this happen.

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the need for speed
QUOTE(baphometslayer @ Apr 12 2008, 03:27 AM) *
They should be killed. YES. Being put in prison is effectively the same as being given a free ride. Rape is a heinous crime, and should be dealt with to the extent of the law.

But there needs to be proof that without a doubt, the accused is the rapist. Of course, this is very possible today with the amount of high-tech tests we have.


What we make, we can brake wink.gif It means that it still is possible to fake such a case.

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