JasperIk
Aug 25 2006, 04:58 PM
What about the drunken affairs women tend to call raping? They've both had a bit too much to drink, she doesnt say 'no' and the next day she files charges for rape. Does the guy really deserve the death penalty? Um, no. I don't think in general rape should be the death penalty, but I do think there should be stronger jail laws about it. So many rapists and molesters especially pedophiles, get off so easily and are released back into the public. One thing that bothers me, is so many people get in trouble for talking to/touching a 'child' lets say the child is 16...okay, by 16 you should fricking know that talking to a 40 year old man, or having sex with him isn't right. So I think both are equally at fault when it comes to circumstances where a 16 year old is having relations with a 40 year old. Ive been in chatrooms where guys PM girls, and they are like 'eww eww get out of my PM' and stuff, and then they go and PM some guy who is the same age as the guy who just PM'd them, and flirt all up with him. They really aren't as innocent as people think. I think my opinion is worthwhile, concidering i was [i]abused[/bi] when I was younger, but I have for the most part gotten over it, and I rather put it behind me, then make such a huge ordeal of it. No one deserves to die, to me the death penalty, is just an easy way out, to not deal with over crowded jails, but if they got rid of all the stuff they have in there, and just kept them in the cell with the bed, a toilet , and some books , got rid of the weight rooms, forced them to do a lot of work in the jail...then probably many wouldn't even come back. [Many do crimes to just go back to jail, because they can't function.] Or atleast people will not want to be put in jail, because honestly jail to me seems prettt decent, you may have to worry about getting beat to a bloody pulp by the guy in your next cell over, but...other then that whats so bad about someone basically babying you around, giving you meals letting you do recreational stuff....jail is like a bad parent, 'You are on time out, but you can watch TV' ... its stupid.
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Dragonfly
Aug 25 2006, 08:33 PM
I think Death penalty is a good idea and it should be made known to common man that the fruit of rape is penalty; so that man will not even try. But a proper trial is very required to prove that a girl is really rape or not and the case goes on and on in some countries. Because they cannot proof or the victim has been paid whatever. Also, the danger also is that a woman might sleep with a man with her consent and later claim that she was raped. So, firstly, we need a very stringent law to that covers the land. And if proved guilty rapists must face death penalty that way no man will ever try unless he is ready to face death right away. And where there is no death penalty (countries like Australia and other countries), they can serve life imprisonment. They do not deserve to serve only few years like 10 years and come out again. That doesn't scare many people.
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no9t9
Aug 26 2006, 01:05 AM
i agree with a previous poster about 16 year old being smart enough to know what they are doing. Children are maturing a lot faster nowadays and besides, there are places in the world where 16 is legal. It's like the legal drinking age. It really is just a number. I think we really need to re-evaluate what is the legal age. Although it is not accepted by society for a 40 year old to be with a 16 year old, I really don't think that it's that big a deal
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newt
Feb 18 2007, 10:14 AM
I think "an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth" is the best way to look at this. If you murder some one, not just manslaughter, but knowledge of forethought, then you should be executed. Same goes for rape, but unfortunately we as human beings, can not use a heinous crime to punish another one. I do believe the current way of dealing with it is useless, I think castration would be a much better way to go, but again this would have to be with knowledge of forethought, and not for mental defect, because this might not actually solve anything. You also have to take into account why the person committed rape, if it was just for the sexual thrill, then by all means "cut em off". No three strikes and your out. If you take away the thing, or things in this case that are causing someone to offend then you have a good chance of stopping it from happening again. Castration used to be a regular thing, I'm not sure why people react so negatively to it. You don't have to have sex organs to be a human, just a soul.
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saga
Feb 18 2007, 01:53 PM
Death penalty should not be the ultimate punishment. We all die. To take a life is not punishment for the one punished will never feel the effect or remorse after his/she is dead. There should be a punishment in which the guilty will still live but will suffer in a bitter way for the wrong act he/she has done. In the case of rapist, their genital should be removed depending of the rape situation. This way as long as he lives he will remember his sin and will regret his act. To suffer as long as you live is the greatest punishment. The suffering must be a hundred times greater compared to his victim. If the victim will have to bear a scar in her mortal life the rapist must bear a deep wound as long as he live.
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BordaForx
Feb 18 2007, 03:14 PM
I disagree. In fact, I disagree with the death penalty for anybody except for the mass serial killers. After killing 10 people, it's obvious you haven't learned any lesson and you will cause more harm in the world than good. The death penalty for rapists, on the other hand, would be a bit too harsh. They could be put in jail for a long time, maybe. In fact, they could start a program where rapists are put into and make them regret what they have done. Yes, what they have done is immoral and very bad and should be discouraged to the youth, but many of these rapists have mental problems and should not be blamed for their actions. There could be an alternative to punish these people. They could be "tagged." For example, after the "x" amount of years spent in jail, they will go home with a special "tag" on them so the public can easily discriminate them. Whenever, they take this tag off, an alarm would be triggered to send law enforcements to his house. They should also be required to put a sign up in their lawns in front of their house or a sign in front of the door. These could be alternatives to isolate the rapists from society to keep the public safer.
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CrazyRob
Feb 18 2007, 05:30 PM
i would say if they did it a second time then yes. But a first time they should just get put in jail for a few years and get sued. If it was rape then murder it would be a different story.
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FolkRockFan
Feb 18 2007, 10:09 PM
I would hesitate to suggest the death penalty for the first, or even second, offense. This is mostly because there are some lowlifes out there who will claim that they've been raped when they in fact were not. Another thing that I would like to see is more of us (particularly women, but men can be rape victims too) taking steps to defend ourselves against this twisted, fouled up crime. I'm not saying that rape victims are to blame. Nope. They don't choose to be raped. I AM, however, saying that we should all do what we can to try and prevent as many rapes as possible. Situational awareness...self defense (of whatever sort one chooses as long as it's legal - no carrying half a dozen hand grenades)...that sort of thing.
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Yratorm, LightMage
Feb 18 2007, 10:42 PM
Who was it who said 'An eye for an eye would make the whole world blind'? I think it was Gandhi. A significant sentiment, significantly put. _________________________________ Besides, have you even thought about what the death penalty would mean to a person whose really innocent? Have you ever heard of the concept of 'blood money'? In muslim countries where they have the death penalty and cut off people's hands for stealing and cut off their members for raping a girl, blood money is the money paid (by the state) to a man whose hand/penis/whatever is cut off and who is then subsequently PROVED TO BE INNOCENT!!! You think any amount of money can pay an innocent man back for the loss of his hand, or the loss of his penis? What about those who are executed in muslim countries? In that case, if the man is proved to be innocent later, the state pays the man's family a sum of money. What sum of money can compensate one for the loss of a friend/brother/lover? I am NOT completely against the death penalty, actually, but I think that even if there is a death penalty it must never be applied lightly, only to repeat offenders and in the most extreme cases. Because, you see, in a court of law, judgments aren't handed down by a perfect god, but by humans. And humans are so prone to error. If a death penalty is handed down, there must BE NO ERROR. Also, I think a death penalty is too much punishment for an ordinary rape. For murderers and for repeat, incorrigible, brutal, sadistic serial offenders, yes perhaps it might apply there - the same way one would put down a rabid dog. _________________________________ Other just as effective preventive measures that can also be taken:Now, I am a martial artist, and I tell you that it is possible to train a woman within five months so that no group less than three in number can rape her. I study one of the most potent martial arts on the planet, from some of the best teachers, and you can believe me if I say it's possible for a woman to turn herself into a most lethal weapon. A well trained woman can take out three strong men before they know what's happening. And yes, she'd use concealed weapons to do it. If it was night, she would use stealth as well. I train in Ninjutsu, in the east, and our whole lifestyle is based on efficient combat and efficient survival - on defeating the odds. I would say that it would be better to institute intense combat classes solely for girls in schools, including training in alertness, decisive action, and the use of deadly concealed weapons - it would be just as deterring for would-be rapists if every second woman was a walking death-trap. A man who wants to rape a woman wants sex, but he doesn't want to sleep with death. Give him even a 60% chance of that happening and he'll think twice, believe me. Prevention is BETTER than ANY cure. Let the trauma from the attack be with the ATTACKER, not with his would-be victim. Punishment AFTER the crime, no matter what the punishment, does NOT cancel the fact that the crime HAS happened. The crime, if at all possible, MUST NOT EVEN HAPPEN.
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itrainmonkeys
Feb 26 2007, 02:08 AM
^^^^ Definitely agree with the poster above. Prevention IS better than a cure. The death penalty is just too harsh for rapists. It's hard enough for states to execute people as it is.....if we were to start executing rapists then it would be even harder. I'm not trying to say Rape is somethign that's not a big deal or anything like that. I just feel that execution.....or even castration as I saw mentioned.....is just going too far. Now I don't know alot about the prison system so I don't know if it's actually rehabilitating or not. I don't even know if prison will stop a person from raping again. But the thing is.....if we start executing rapists people will want other criminals executed for other reasons. I feel it would be far too difficult to enforce and enact a law that would make rapists get the death penalty. That won't happen and I don't think it should.
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