robcozzens
Sep 18 2007, 10:10 PM
| | This is a very deep topic and you made some good points. I think you really hit on something when you mentioned believing in an after-life because you can't imagine not existing. Personally I think that is a big reason most people so easily believe in an after-life.
It is very difficult to think of ourselves as just a product of our brains. We feel like we must be eternal. It doesn't make sense that we would stop existing. As you mentioned, where would our consciousness go?
But where does our consciousness go when we are asleep (and not dreaming)? Where was our consciousness before we were born?
I believe that our brain / mind / consciousness are the result of evolution. According to Jeff Hawkins, the main goal of our mind is to predict the future (the very near future). We can visualize ourselves in the future because it is useful for our survival and reproduction. There would be no benefit to visualizing ourselves no longer existing and so we can't do it.
Admittedly that is a very simplified explanation. |
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keego
Dec 13 2007, 03:58 AM
QUOTE(KuBi @ May 18 2007, 03:19 PM)  I've been thinking to myself about this for quite a while now. And finally I'm giving up on trying to figure it out for myself. Death. Being dead. Not existing the the human realm. I keep trying to imagine if the human race never existed, if I never existed, where would "I" be. As a conscience being it's impossible for me to imagine "me" not existing. This is one of the only reasons I believe in an after-life. If we died, and were wiped from the face of this..universe, where would our conscience be? It's so hard for me to explain this, bear with me here. If you understand what I'm trying to say you just made this a whole lot easier. I see it impossible to just die and have no conscience anywhere. Hell, heaven, space, an endless void. SOMEWHERE! If you even understand what I'm trying to say, is there anyone that agrees with me? Please don't jump right to the heaven and hell act. Sure that's where some people believe you go. But what about an Avalon? And when I say Avalon, I mean some sort of mythical place. You know, that you see in those fiction books. No, I don't read many. But maybe there is one? Join me in my crazy fantasies and crazy places. Just think, a place where anything is possible, flying without wings, teleportation, whatever, you name it. Anything we've discussed here in the inventions forum. We talk about a teleportation device, but what if we could do it with our minds? Ok I kinda got side tracked. But I don't believe in non-existence! Sorry if I completely lost some of you, I promise, I'm not crazy. Yet. If I keep thinking about this I will be  . OMG i didnt know this page existed i wrote a shorter version of my feelings towards this on a different page. Finally someone believes and thinks what i think, oh and some of you here say that there is no use in picturing us not existing so we dont. Well for me its another case, you say that where was our conscience before birth, well do you ever just stand around one day and a event happens or even small things like someone comes ring your door bell but you've felt like you've seen it all before? Its like hey havent i pictured this person ringing my door bell right at this time looking exactly the same as he or she is right infront of me? well i have and i never figured out where i see those visions. is it my dream? mayb my past lfe? maybe the life before birth was exactly the life im living but i just live it over and over again? I guess in this world you never know, things are fascinating. Sometimes the things i vision has a bad ending. for some reason when it happens the ending is good though, so by that sometimes i think in this life do i get to see what happened so i can avoid the mistakes i done in the past? sounds wierd? Well these things really happen to me,im not saying that Im can see the future or have any powers, jst sometimes i see a situation that i think i have seen before because i always know what will happen next. So how is it that we wont exist when we die, or we didnt exist before birth? I guess i just can't believe it because so much things happen to me that causes me to not believe it. I hope someone out there knows how i feel, i guess i just really want to express it .. it fustrates me keeping it inside.
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Sica-GURU
Jun 26 2008, 01:13 PM
this is the reason why most of the people believe in after-death... Yes it is possible but it's not a sure thing. But thing about things that make no sense and accept a no-after-death-life... If we're not existing there will be no problem to existing (mean - remaining nothing ) after death... If we're becoming "nothing" after death is not such a cruel thing...I mean what life after death you hope to be?! a better one? is possible to be no life after death, thing about a PC-program ...he was not there until a PC-programmer started to build it up...and bring it to "live" the program could as well "die" any time the programmer wants, and there's no life after death for the program  it can be rebuild ed but it will be the same ? I guess not... so the same thing with us... either we're sent to recycle bin, updated or deleted we're happy to exist and ask about our intelligent living bins future  )
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