Hamtaro
Apr 21 2006, 03:00 AM
My school has finally made me EXTREMELY mad! First of all, I need to explain sosme stuff: Duriing this week (for three days, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday) we had testing. We had to sign up for after-testing activities (during those days, we did nothing after we tested). Well, the only one I really wanted, was the Internet. I signed up for it on all three days. On my first day, I did everything I always do when I get on a school computer: Stick in my flash drive, and launch Portable Firefox (I'm not sparking a FF vs. IE conversation) because I hate IE. Nobody said a word. Plus, I'd been using it for over a year at school, anyway. Well, the next day, the computer lab teacher (who is pretty much computer illiterate), started fussing about me using some program she doesn't know about. Well, I'm not the only one who uses it, either. Two of my friends do. Plus, a lot of people were playing games that they downloaded from the Internet. She said that she talked to the principal, and he said that we couldn't use a program that wasn't already on the computer (stupid, isn't it? They even said that it wasn't a concern for viruses, either. I don't get the point in what they said). Oh, and I might add that the principal is also computer illiterate. Well, I did as they said (even though I hate IE), and didn't use Firefox the rest of the day. Now comes the next day (today). It turns out, that they took me out of the Internet just simply because I used Firefox!!!! That ticks me off so bad!!! If you ask me, they're just afraid of people using new programs! I have no idea whatsoever why the heck they would throw such a fit over something like that. Oh, and I want to add: I don't mean to insult them by calling them computer illiterate. Most people around here, though, barely can get by with a computer (literally). I'm always helping people in computer classes with problems (most even the teacher doesn't know how to fix). Anyway, I'm not mad because I couldn't get on the Internet, or use a computer, but I'm mad simply because I got kicked out for using Firefox. All my teachers have seen me use it before. None of them care if I use it, either. Except that ONE teacher. I don't see how she became a computer teacher in the first place!!! I wish there were some schools that at leas knew a LITTLE about computers around here. Anyway, my tennis coach is the technology expert of the school, so I'm going to try to get permission to use Firefox from him.
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CroSpartacus
Apr 21 2006, 03:07 AM
That sucks. My computer teachers only know about stuff like microsoft word, excel, powerpoint etc. But on those other kind of stuff they don't know anything. I prefer firefox too, but my schools computers are so slow that downloading firefox takes 30 minutes.
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Hamtaro
Apr 21 2006, 03:14 AM
QUOTE My computer teachers only know about stuff like microsoft word, excel, powerpoint etc. Heh, that's pretty much all my computer teachers are trained in, as well. My school has a T1 connection (at least that's one thing they did right) so I really like getting on the Internet there. I can tell you this: That teacher had better not ask me for any help at all, because I won't give it to her (she even told me the first day that she wished she knew as much about computers as I do). I don't usually do that to people, but it's just plain ridiculous what they did to me.
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fffanatics
Apr 21 2006, 04:35 AM
Wow that really does suck. In my school, all my computer teachers (aka all 2 of them) knew a decent amount about programming and such since they were the only two computer teachers and each taught languages so we never had any issues with them. However, the administration at the district headquarters really started to cut down on programs that could be downloaded and install and they did yell at you. They just erased them from the hd and then blocked them online. It does suck but i guess from their point of view it is a security issue and could cause a problem.
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dvalkass
Apr 21 2006, 06:22 AM
At our school we have two technicians who think they own the place. They try to give out detentions for stupid stuff, one tried to give my friend a detention for laughing when she thought he was laughing at her, and they aren't even allowed to give detentions. All they know is stuff about if you lsot/forgot your password or if a simple program goes wrong.
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Artem ZHI
Apr 21 2006, 03:34 PM
Computers and my school..haha..  In our computer-class only 15 computer for studens and 1 for techer. These 15 comuters - pentium 1 or celeron 500 ))) For teecher - sempron 3000+ - it's very good and i worked on it - as best pupil))) It is Necessary to say that amount computers very small and we don't have internet in school(((
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Giant Roy
Apr 21 2006, 03:57 PM
Hamtaro, I know exactly how it is with you and school computers. I'm going through testing currently at school. We aren't allowed to bring our own programs or anything either. Plus we have this stupid security block that allows us from getting on game sites and stuff like that. WE should all unite and fight the sucky rules of school!
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shadowdemon
Apr 21 2006, 06:24 PM
QUOTE(Hamtaro @ Apr 20 2006, 11:00 PM) 
My school has finally made me EXTREMELY mad! First of all, I need to explain sosme stuff: Duriing this week (for three days, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday) we had testing. We had to sign up for after-testing activities (during those days, we did nothing after we tested). Well, the only one I really wanted, was the Internet. I signed up for it on all three days.
On my first day, I did everything I always do when I get on a school computer: Stick in my flash drive, and launch Portable Firefox (I'm not sparking a FF vs. IE conversation) because I hate IE. Nobody said a word. Plus, I'd been using it for over a year at school, anyway. Well, the next day, the computer lab teacher (who is pretty much computer illiterate), started fussing about me using some program she doesn't know about. Well, I'm not the only one who uses it, either. Two of my friends do. Plus, a lot of people were playing games that they downloaded from the Internet. She said that she talked to the principal, and he said that we couldn't use a program that wasn't already on the computer (stupid, isn't it? They even said that it wasn't a concern for viruses, either. I don't get the point in what they said). Oh, and I might add that the principal is also computer illiterate. Well, I did as they said (even though I hate IE), and didn't use Firefox the rest of the day.
Now comes the next day (today). It turns out, that they took me out of the Internet just simply because I used Firefox!!!! That ticks me off so bad!!! If you ask me, they're just afraid of people using new programs! I have no idea whatsoever why the heck they would throw such a fit over something like that. Oh, and I want to add: I don't mean to insult them by calling them computer illiterate. Most people around here, though, barely can get by with a computer (literally). I'm always helping people in computer classes with problems (most even the teacher doesn't know how to fix).
Anyway, I'm not mad because I couldn't get on the Internet, or use a computer, but I'm mad simply because I got kicked out for using Firefox. All my teachers have seen me use it before. None of them care if I use it, either. Except that ONE teacher. I don't see how she became a computer teacher in the first place!!! I wish there were some schools that at leas knew a LITTLE about computers around here. Anyway, my tennis coach is the technology expert of the school, so I'm going to try to get permission to use Firefox from him.
In the paragraph you asid you wish schools had computer literate teachers. In my school there is only 2 teachers of of 120 (estimate but atrleast 100) that can work a computer. I share your pain. It isnt there fault tho, they didnt grow up with computers.
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michaelper22
Apr 21 2006, 07:24 PM
My computer teacher is very good at computers. He does all sorts of stuff in Linux, gets more hardware (and rebates to fill out) by the week, and doesn't teach me much (since I know most of the stuff he teaches, or at least I can learn it really, really quickly). As far as you using Firefox on your machine in school, my computer teacher won't let us put any "external media" at all in the computers (CDs, DVDs, USB drives, floppies - those laptops actually have floppy drives, or any other device). Life stinks, but sometimes we just have to live with our problems (trust me, I do it everyday)
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tt3
Apr 21 2006, 08:09 PM
QUOTE(michaelper22 @ Apr 21 2006, 08:24 PM)
My computer teacher is very good at computers. He does all sorts of stuff in Linux, gets more hardware (and rebates to fill out) by the week, and doesn't teach me much (since I know most of the stuff he teaches, or at least I can learn it really, really quickly). As far as you using Firefox on your machine in school, my computer teacher won't let us put any "external media" at all in the computers (CDs, DVDs, USB drives, floppies - those laptops actually have floppy drives, or any other device). Life stinks, but sometimes we just have to live with our problems (trust me, I do it everyday)
It's a shame there aren't more teachers like yours in the school, but I'm truely shocked that you can't use pen drives. Over the past few years, the pen drive has been the most useful tool in our school! Our cd's are blocked as well, but we're allowed USB sticks at least. Then again, it's not surprising considering our school sells them. 
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bhavesh
Apr 24 2007, 10:39 AM
Story is same in every school.... My school too has one computer teacher and one technician, with a broadband connection. My teacher only knows about the MS Word, MS Paint, Power Point Presentation. In internet she only knows about the Google, she do not have any e-mail account. One good thing about my school computer lab is that in each class we have a extra time of 20 minutes for doing anything which we want. Pupils mainly like to play games online in disney and cartoon networks sites. But my school has to make a lot for improving their computer level to come with other school. 
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FolkRockFan
Apr 24 2007, 03:27 AM
If you guys and gals want better teachers, tell your parents to pony up more tax dollars to give teachers better salaries. Sorry, but the average teacher's salary just doesn't make the job worth taking. Sadly, teaching is often what people do when they run out of other options. Some teachers actually go out of their way to do it because they love the job, but you just don't find too many of them anymore. The whole situation stinks - for everybody. You guys and gals aren't getting the instruction that you want and need - and the teachers who actually care about their jobs aren't being fairly compensated. Everyone's getting the short end, but few people want to do anything to solve the problem.
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galexcd
Apr 24 2007, 02:29 AM
yea my school is all IE, and if you DL firefox, they just delete it off ur U drive. The computer network dude just searches for *BLEEP* on all the student's U drives all day. I once told him to get FF but hes like, oh i will eventually, but he keeps on deleting it. Somebody needs to tell him to f**k off our hd space...
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thejestergl
Apr 21 2007, 05:59 AM
QUOTE(Hamtaro @ Apr 20 2006, 08:00 PM) My school has finally made me EXTREMELY mad! First of all, I need to explain sosme stuff: Duriing this week (for three days, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday) we had testing. We had to sign up for after-testing activities (during those days, we did nothing after we tested). Well, the only one I really wanted, was the Internet. I signed up for it on all three days.
On my first day, I did everything I always do when I get on a school computer: Stick in my flash drive, and launch Portable Firefox (I'm not sparking a FF vs. IE conversation) because I hate IE. Nobody said a word. Plus, I'd been using it for over a year at school, anyway. Well, the next day, the computer lab teacher (who is pretty much computer illiterate), started fussing about me using some program she doesn't know about. Well, I'm not the only one who uses it, either. Two of my friends do. Plus, a lot of people were playing games that they downloaded from the Internet. She said that she talked to the principal, and he said that we couldn't use a program that wasn't already on the computer (stupid, isn't it? They even said that it wasn't a concern for viruses, either. I don't get the point in what they said). Oh, and I might add that the principal is also computer illiterate. Well, I did as they said (even though I hate IE), and didn't use Firefox the rest of the day.
Now comes the next day (today). It turns out, that they took me out of the Internet just simply because I used Firefox!!!! That ticks me off so bad!!! If you ask me, they're just afraid of people using new programs! I have no idea whatsoever why the heck they would throw such a fit over something like that. Oh, and I want to add: I don't mean to insult them by calling them computer illiterate. Most people around here, though, barely can get by with a computer (literally). I'm always helping people in computer classes with problems (most even the teacher doesn't know how to fix).
Anyway, I'm not mad because I couldn't get on the Internet, or use a computer, but I'm mad simply because I got kicked out for using Firefox. All my teachers have seen me use it before. None of them care if I use it, either. Except that ONE teacher. I don't see how she became a computer teacher in the first place!!! I wish there were some schools that at leas knew a LITTLE about computers around here. Anyway, my tennis coach is the technology expert of the school, so I'm going to try to get permission to use Firefox from him. Wow that really sucks man... I know what you are talking about when you say that a lot of people at school are computer illiterate. Most of my teachers don't know anything about a computer, they only know the basics to a Mac (which I personally do not like). It does make me angry that for the most part the school computers are very restricted, new programs are almost impossible to get simply because the school doesn't want them on there. I asked one time why it was such a bad idea, they said it would "Slow the computer down, may have a virus on it, and the school's computers are supposed to be used for research/projects only and nothing more." Which I can understand, but a lot of the people at my school simply like using the computer and internet that is provided for them because they can't get it at home. Also most kids who are dumb enough (please excuse that if you are offended by it) to get a virus on the computer probably don't know how to download the programs in the first place. But again, that really stinks and I hope that you get permission from your tennis couch. -Jester
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Laurie
Apr 20 2007, 09:11 PM
I took a computer class in my senior year of high school. That was in 1985. The year before my brother had helped them install a computer system. It was state of the art at the time. It consisted of a host terminal and 16 offshoots. The system used TRS 80s (trash 80s to us). We learned pascal. I was good at it and often helped other students. It was there that I discovered that not everyone thought like I did and they had alternative ways of doing things that often worked just as well or better. I had an assignment to create an alphabetizing program. My version took 2 hours to alphabetize 2000 names. It was considered fast for the time and they used it for the schools administration records. What I learned in that class was very valuable and I use it even now. Programming principles are pretty much the same no matter what the language is. It is funny to hear these people complain about not being able to use the computers fully at school. Remember there was a time when we didn't have them at all.
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