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BOAW
about two days ago i would keep gettn errors in my internet browser about some plugin that wont install or whatever...n then afterwhile m computer would just shut off on me and restart....i know for sure that its not being over heated cuz i check the fan and vent in the computer and it was clean...but then the next day i turned on my computer and it would show up the options of loading the computer with "safe mode" "safe mode with networking" safe mode with command prompt" and the loading it the last time that the computer worked....so i tried the setting that the last time the computer worked and it went back to that screen with the options so that didnt work and then i tried safe mode and everything else and the same thing happen...the last thing i wanted to do was system restore or recovery or w.e but i guess i had to so i waited till the blue screen loaded up....pressed f10 and waited for the system recovery screen to load up and after that all i got was a blue screen with an error...so i couldnt even do that...bascially right now i think my computer is really screwed up and just cannot be fixed...i dont know what to do anymore and i really need help...what should i do now??

Its a Windows XP Home Edition

 

 

 


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Saint_Michael
But try this though just go into safe mode, if you can get through safe mode and your computer starts up normally, check your computer out for anything that seems out of place. If nothing seems out of place do a soft restart of your computer and let it boot up normally if that doesn't work at all then get ahold of tech support for your type of ocmputer to help you walk through it.


Well if you get the blue screen of death that means you got a nasty error in your hard drive and if couldn't get a system restore to work that would only conclude that you have hard drive crash but their are other methods of which one of them call technical support for your computer and let them help you try to restore your system without the need to reinstall it again.

but with a system recovery it usually goes back a few days or the last time it automatically saved a system recovery file for the computer.

But by what I read in your post you either lost your os or the Hard drive is messed to the point that you have to replace it.

was the plugin flash or java at all that you could remember?

 

 

 


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savge17
This is called a virus. Also Known as a Trojan or a Alcarta. You need to re-format before it can casue any more damage. And before it calls in more hosts as well. Trojans take over your computer in many ways, when ur computer is on you mightnot even know it but this virus can be hosting a network witch the hackers designed. And trust me, you dont want to be the host...

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sm00nie
QUOTE(savge17 @ Mar 23 2006, 02:33 PM) *
This is called a virus. Also Known as a Trojan or a Alcarta. You need to re-format before it can casue any more damage. And before it calls in more hosts as well. Trojans take over your computer in many ways, when ur computer is on you mightnot even know it but this virus can be hosting a network witch the hackers designed. And trust me, you dont want to be the host...
I'm not so sure thats the case here. If he had a virus that was using the host as a networking hub, then it would really rely on an active internet connection to send to other hosts. If he's unable to even load up windows or any OS this is probably not the case (although there may be other viruses active).

To check if your harddrive is on it's last throes it's best to enable SMART from your bios (if it's not already enabled). That will tell you on bootup if there is a problem with your Hard drive.

You may most likely need to format, as Saint_Michael and Savage17 suggested :/

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Johnny
Hm...I wouldn't call it a virus just yet. I've seen what viruses do (I was a wannabe hacker way back when) and most of them mess with the user while they use the computer, instead of just shutting them out completely.

Try posting up what your computer says at the blue screen, or at least the gist of it. That might gives some clues as to what's wrong.

From what I've seen the most common cases are caused from hard drive failure or a screwy program installation.

Like mike said, try running it in safe mode first, if that doesn't work, try booting from a windows disk (if you have one).

Reformatting should be a last resort.

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savge17
There is a slight chance that it isnt a Virus. You might aswell jsut re-start and re-format. It could be anything.

There so many things that can go wrong with a computer. Maybe software is conflicting and maybe you didnt format your hard drives corretly.

Your best bet is just to re-format and if you still have a problem, take it to the next level by getting help by a professional.

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Inspiron
QUOTE(BOAW @ Mar 24 2006, 01:39 AM) *

about two days ago i would keep gettn errors in my internet browser about some plugin that wont install or whatever...n then afterwhile m computer would just shut off on me and restart.

Somehow it could be a virus because the whole thing started with his internet browser that fails to load or install a plugin. He could have visited sites that forced users to install a plugin or activeX stuffs before he can access their websites. Such websites could be a hackers site or a crack ware site. There are also chances that some sites that looked innocent be installed with such script to corrupt the computer when visited. BOAW must have installed a script to get the whole problem started.

QUOTE(BOAW @ Mar 24 2006, 01:39 AM) *

i know for sure that its not being over heated cuz i check the fan and vent in the computer and it was clean...but then the next day i turned on my computer and it would show up the options of loading the computer with "safe mode" "safe mode with networking" safe mode with command prompt" and the loading it the last time that the computer worked...

If it is really true that he visited a site that is loaded with a virus or related scripts, it will definately not be the overheating of his computer that caused the system to automatically restart suddenly. He also checked the fan and vent for blockages. That doubles up that it isn't the overheating problem. Subsequently after the automatic restart, he was prompted with the boot options when he didn't activated that menu. That could be the cause where the virus or related script was activated since his last successful shutdown. Because Windows XP saves the user session before shutting down the computer, the script could have been saved into his boot records to prompt the boot menu on the next system bootup.

QUOTE(BOAW @ Mar 24 2006, 01:39 AM) *

so i tried the setting that the last time the computer worked and it went back to that screen with the options so that didnt work and then i tried safe mode and everything else and the same thing happen...the last thing i wanted to do was system restore or recovery or w.e but i guess i had to so i waited till the blue screen loaded up....pressed f10 and waited for the system recovery screen to load up and after that all i got was a blue screen with an error...

The whole process gets repeated and he was continuously prompted with the boot menu, without himself activating it. He tried to do a system recover but failed. Soon after, he receives the typical Blue Screen of Death (BSOD). Windows XP was made to a minimal BSOD that you will now seldom see BSOD in Windows XP as often as the previous versions of Windows. Usually when BSOD happens in Windows XP, it is due to the corrupted drivers or unrecognised command in Windows XP. That could be caused by a change of bit data, from "1" to "0", making Windows XP not to understand and get halted, resulting in the BSOD. Otherwise if it's a proper Windows XP internal code, Windows XP will not don't understand it's own commands, unless it's being changed by a virus or an unknown script.

QUOTE(BOAW @ Mar 24 2006, 01:39 AM) *

bascially right now i think my computer is really screwed up and just cannot be fixed...

Yes it is already screwed up. I'll consider that as a virus that has infected your computer. As you see the trend of your system, it's becoming worst since it started with just the internet explorer plugin or activex error to the state where you were receiving BSOD. Everything seemed organised in destruction of your Windows XP, and you got no control of it from the start.
I would suggest a reformat of your computer immediately, before it starts infecting your BIOS records. You won't know what that virus will do next, hence a reformat is required. It's safer than sorry. Once your BIOS gets infected, there goes your computer. You can then get a new computer and throw away this one.

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awild
QUOTE(BOAW @ Mar 24 2006, 12:39 AM) *

about two days ago i would keep gettn errors in my internet browser about some plugin that wont install or whatever...n then afterwhile m computer would just shut off on me and restart....i know for sure that its not being over heated cuz i check the fan and vent in the computer and it was clean...but then the next day i turned on my computer and it would show up the options of loading the computer with "safe mode" "safe mode with networking" safe mode with command prompt" and the loading it the last time that the computer worked....so i tried the setting that the last time the computer worked and it went back to that screen with the options so that didnt work and then i tried safe mode and everything else and the same thing happen...the last thing i wanted to do was system restore or recovery or w.e but i guess i had to so i waited till the blue screen loaded up....pressed f10 and waited for the system recovery screen to load up and after that all i got was a blue screen with an error...so i couldnt even do that...bascially right now i think my computer is really screwed up and just cannot be fixed...i dont know what to do anymore and i really need help...what should i do now??

Its a Windows XP Home Edition


I think..somethink wrong with your HDD..try chkdsk from other PC..

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BOAW
well let me ask you guys this...is reformatting and system recovery and system restore the same thing?? becuase if it is then i dont even think i can reformat cause dont i have to press f10 to reach the recovery reformat menu?? because i tryed that and it wouldnt allow me to view the recovery or reformat menu...it would load and then just when it finishes a blue screen error pops up which i guess is the "death screen" or w.e.... so if they dont mean the same thing please explain to me what reformatting is and how do i reformat?? thanks

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dark_drgn
You may have a combination of both, tough luck sad.gif
A worm is a computer program that can "clone" itself , similar to a computer virus. But a virus attaches itself to another executable program. However, a worm is self-contained and doesn't need a host file to "run" itself. They are often used to affect the file transfer abilitiy on computers. The main difference between a computer virus and a worm is that a virus cannot run by itself when worms can. In other words, worms harm the network and consume bandwidth, while viruses infect or corrupt files on a targeted computer.

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Inspiron
That's a good news to you finding out that it isn't the hard disk problem. Unfortunately however you've lost all your precious data by formatting it. Anyway if you would like to get more memory to replace the damaged one, remember to check out the model number and it's specifications before buying. A wrongly fitted memory module may cause permanent damage to the motherboard and BIOS. If that really happens, it's time to get a new computer. smile.gif

The most important thing to look out for in RAM is the clock speed. Make sure it's compatible with your motherboard. It's best and recommended to follow exactly the same specification with the damaged memory and it will sure to work. The amount of memory does not affect on compatibility, hence you can get a 512MB, 1024MB or whatever amount you like. Also remember to slot back the same memory slot that used to house the damaged memory module. Reconfiguration to the BIOS may be necessary. Work with your father since he fixed the computer for you.

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BOAW
well lemme just ensure to everyone that my computer finally works....i had to reinstall everything my drivers or whatever i had to lose everything i had but that ok i dont care much as long as i got my computer back...i got my friends father to fix the problem and he said i had a bad memory stick....becuase when he took one of them off the computer was actually able to load up but then i had no drivers so i called the hp company to send me a rrestore disk with all the drivers i need and now everything seems to be good the only thing is that i just dont have as much memory as i used to =( hah

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anwiii
QUOTE(jumapao @ Mar 30 2006, 06:02 AM) *

hello guys!! we'll i'm not actually familiar with computers but would it be possible if i just replace the bios so that i won't have to buy a new computer?

just find a bootable disk that lets you go directly in to dos first. i'm not talking about the windows disk that came with the computer. once you find one, then you will be set to have someone take you through some steps to backup your files and reformat, and then reinstall your os. it doesn't even have to be a cd. it can be a floppy. it also doesn't even have to be the os installed on your hd. any windows os will do. don't get frustrated. you learn by doing. keep in mind that if you do this once, you'll know what to do if you have problems in the future, but i don't suggest reformatting everytime you don't know what a problem is....but you get my point.

i'm sorta curious what this program you were trying to install before you started having these problems....but i doubt that's the problem why your computer isn't booting. don't feed in to this virus crap either. it's over rated and over mediatized(if that's a word. if not, they should add it to websters biggrin.gif ) so programers can make money

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Inspiron
Usually when such computer problems occur, or for most computer problems, there isn't a need to replace your BIOS. For most cases, reformatting of computer will solve the problem. Unless it's a physical hardware problem, a replacement for the particular hardware is then needed. BIOS seldom need to change because hardly it can be affected with a virus. Note that I didn't conclude that all virus will never hurt the BIOS, just that it's unlikely that viruses spread to it..

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jumapao
hello guys!! we'll i'm not actually familiar with computers but would it be possible if i just replace the bios so that i won't have to buy a new computer?

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