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Is Christianity Just Another Religion Or Its Superior

Slashx123
I belive that christianity isnt superior, however isnt just another religion either. Christianity is unique in that it does have a manual to follow and is a very leniant religion. It doesnt make you do thins, or worship for that matter, but it does have celebrations wich arent forced. Christianity is a religion that promotes love and devours hate. And the fact that it implies a heaven makes people want to be christian because no one wants to just die, and never go on. Everyone is afraid of the unknown.

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PmH
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Christianity is unique in that it does have a manual to follow and is a very leniant religion


Not true at all. Depends on what form of Christianity you are talking about, there are so many different kinds now, there are people, still, who repent their sins by whipping themselves, which, to me at least, doesn't sound very lenient.

And, several other religions have a "manual". I can only guess that you are referring to the Bible. Don't forget Judaism: tora; Islam: Koran; Buddhism: 4 Noble Truths; 8 Fold Path; Hinduism: Andalects (although it is more holy scriptures than a guide)

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Joshua
QUOTE(no9t9 @ Apr 24 2006, 06:09 PM) *

Yes, I know that there are certain "morals" that naturally develop. But think about the natural development if you did not live in a societal group. If you were alone and isolated from other people, how would your morality develop? My point was that morality is developed from society. And yes, naturally, society considers murder wrong because murder disrupts society. All "rules" in society evolve naturally to make society function. BUT, there have been some societies that had human sacrifices. Technically that is murder. But, it was not considered wrong. So there are always exceptions.

To your second point, morality can be seen to "originate from God" because religion was used as a moral compass for so long. Before religion was even invented, morality already existed. I've already talked about it a bit above. I cannot say that morality does not or does originate from God because we don't know if God exists or not. And since religion (I would rather say religion than God because not all religions have a single God), was such a big part of human development over the ages, it undoubtedly helped shape morality today. Consider though a planet or society with NO religion. Do you not think that morals would still develop? You point to the theory of natural law... which is what I am trying to say. Society doesn't neccessarily NEED religion to give it morality.

If you study how lions interact in their social group, you will see that they have their own set of morals. Now, I am not a lion expert or anything but I don't think lions even have a concept of God (or religion). Do lions have a concept of the after life, sin, and do they ask "why are we here"? I don't think so (but I could be wrong). Despite not having religion, a pride of lions will have thier own set of "morals" in the way they interact with others in the pride. On a side note... some might argue that this is the reason why animals are animals, because we have God and they don't. God lifted us above animals... Though, would God even exist unless humans were able to think about him?

In the end, morality as it exists today is a mix of today's society and past religious beliefs. There is no possible way to seperate them unless someone could go back in time. To say that morality would not exist if there were no religion (or God) is premature. There is evidence that morality can exist without religion (in the case of animal societal groups). I just think that morals will be different depending on how the society develops. And the development of a society INCLUDES religion in the case of modern societies. I am not arguing that. I just wanted to raise a point about morals IF a society developed WITHOUT religion. What would those morals look like?


Morality governs chiefly how we harm God and other people. It's for this reason that Romans 13:10 says that love is the fulfilling of God's Law because it doesn't harm others. Without others around it is hard to harm them, we then can only harm God. Only when others are around is morality outside of harming God then necessary. Therefore, to test your theory you would need people growing up isolated without prior cultural experience rather then one person alone.

As an interesting point, how long did many of those sacrificing nations exist? Many are chronicled of being destroyed in the Bible's book of Judges, something many Christianity critics point to as cruelty. While the practice continues today in the form of abortion, it is interesting to note that nations using it have consistently met a terrible demise, while Israel whose holy scriptures emphatically deny it still has their nation, original land, culture, language, holy scriptures, and history.

When you say before religion was invented, how do you determine that? The Bible says the first human's children sought to worship God, one by offering an animal, the other by offering produce. And of course Adam and Eve had a relationship with God before they messed it up. What do you then term as religion?

Ultimately, God's existence can not be dependent on our knowledge of Him. Just because I don't know you exist, doesn't mean you don't. Just because I don't hear the sound a tree makes in the forest doesn't mean a sound wasn't made (unless you define sound as something heard by someone).

As for societies without religion, they have most definitely been attempted. Lenin attempted to kill all following a religion. Both Russia and China have attempted to create religion-free countries. So then, what would you say their morals look like?

 

 

 


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no9t9
QUOTE(Joshua @ May 3 2006, 01:58 AM) *

Only when others are around is morality outside of harming God then necessary. Therefore, to test your theory you would need people growing up isolated without prior cultural experience rather then one person alone.


No. If you read more carefully, I was talking about how someone might develop morality if society, culture, religion did not exist. And by that I mean that this person can not be influenced by other "beings". You need someone who is totally isolated without any religous or cultural influence. Then throw that person into society to see if this person developed similar morality.

QUOTE(Joshua @ May 3 2006, 01:58 AM) *

As an interesting point, how long did many of those sacrificing nations exist? Many are chronicled of being destroyed in the Bible's book of Judges, something many Christianity critics point to as cruelty. While the practice continues today in the form of abortion, it is interesting to note that nations using it have consistently met a terrible demise, while Israel whose holy scriptures emphatically deny it still has their nation, original land, culture, language, holy scriptures, and history.


I don't know the answer to the sacrficing nations. But, this is not the only example of murder in history in the name of religion. Just look at the crusades. In the name of religion, they murdered thousands of people. I think the original point I was trying to make is that murder being right or wrong is in the eye of the beholder. Do you think those people responsible for the crusades thought what they were doing was wrong?

QUOTE(Joshua @ May 3 2006, 01:58 AM) *

When you say before religion was invented, how do you determine that? The Bible says the first human's children sought to worship God, one by offering an animal, the other by offering produce. And of course Adam and Eve had a relationship with God before they messed it up. What do you then term as religion?


The bible doesn't prove anything in this case. Humans have been proven to have been on earth for around 40,000 years. At that time, people could not communicate (written or verbal). BUT, they did live in societal groups. Do you think they had morals? It is safe to assume they did because if you study ANY family group in nature, they all have some sort of rules. But, in this case... do these humans have "religion"? Do you think they even had a concept of god?

QUOTE(Joshua @ May 3 2006, 01:58 AM) *

Ultimately, God's existence can not be dependent on our knowledge of Him. Just because I don't know you exist, doesn't mean you don't. Just because I don't hear the sound a tree makes in the forest doesn't mean a sound wasn't made (unless you define sound as something heard by someone).


Yes, just because YOU don't know me doesn't mean i don't exist. But, what if NOBODY knew you. Would you exist? You walked around town and everyone acts as if they could not even see you. You talk to people and they don't provide any response. What would you think? Wouldn't you start questioning your existence? You'd probably think you were dead or a ghost. It is ironic that you use the tree example because that is the very example that has been used to illustrate my very point. You use it to argue against my point. If no one is there to hear the tree how can it make a sound? Sound is simply vibration of molecules but if no one is there to interpret those vibrations, is it really a sound? If no one had ever thought about "God" would he exist?

QUOTE(Joshua @ May 3 2006, 01:58 AM) *

As for societies without religion, they have most definitely been attempted. Lenin attempted to kill all following a religion. Both Russia and China have attempted to create religion-free countries. So then, what would you say their morals look like?


The problem with those "attempts" is that those societies were trying to SUPRESS religion. I am talking about societies where religion never existed. in other words, where people have no concept of religion. Like i said earlier, it is impossible to find such societies now or in history. The closest you can come is in the animal kingdom.

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amit nigam
I think this is a totally absurd topic and these kind of topics should not be started or better should not be allowed. The reason being that these kind of topics generate a kind of bad feeling in minds of we people for each other because this a very sensitive issue.
Its better to have discussion on different topics like science, technology or fashion or something else and leave these kind of topics to the priests, the fundamentalists and the politicians.

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CarlU
amit, you're right to a certain extent, I just think the topic name should be changed, because it can create false opinions towards religions or people who are against religion, but I don't see a huge problem here.

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amit nigam
No, actually for me this is totally absurd.
not becauase i don't believe in religion. i m a true believer in god and i m a hindu.
but wat i believe in is that all religions are equal and god is one. its just the difference in the ways we see them and pray. so there is no point in hving questions like which religion is better - christianity or hinduism or any other.
the point is we are seeing the results of religious extremism throughout the world- whether in iraq or afghanistan or pakistan etc. so wat i want to see is more and more people believe in the concept of oneness of god so that the world can unite. and if god is one then where does the question arise that which one is better.

hope u get tyhe point.

bye.


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Uentil
I think Believing in a god is how you feel and if you are comfortable with it, then you should stay with it. I also believe that there are other gods like Alah and Budda and on and on. I feel that no one should be preasured into a religious, you should be able to feel comfortable and it is not a compitition to see whos gods are better or whos religion is better. I thnk you should really have a talk with your preist or someone very religious to try to firgure out whats goin on, not ask a bunch of people online.

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matto
QUOTE(Uentil @ May 18 2006, 04:17 PM) *

I think Believing in a god is how you feel and if you are comfortable with it, then you should stay with it. I also believe that there are other gods like Alah and Budda and on and on. I feel that no one should be preasured into a religious, you should be able to feel comfortable and it is not a compitition to see whos gods are better or whos religion is better. I thnk you should really have a talk with your preist or someone very religious to try to firgure out whats goin on, not ask a bunch of people online.

So you believe that only preists and very religious people are able to determine whether or not something having to do with Christianity, or any other religion, is true or not? Why not talk to everyone else, get input on it from everyone, rather than one qualified person why not a bunch of somewhat-qualified people?

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tdm
Have you ever done Anything on Religions when you were at school. All religions are based on the same thing, Every religion has a book which they follow. And why the hell would feeling supierior over another religion be good may i ask? This next bit is just a example sorry if it offends anyone. It's like saying you are a christian you rule the world, you are a jew you are the slaves. There cannot be a supieror Religion.

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