Goosestaf
Mar 31 2006, 07:39 PM
| | QUOTE(truefusion @ Mar 31 2006, 07:38 PM) 
For those who think their religion is better, mind you, they're just playing the "religion game". I, for one, state facts that have been falsified (by science or whatnot), and try to eliminate ignorance, based on actual evidence. Again, it all depends on how well everyone else handles such information.
That is fair enough.
That is no more than defending ur beliefs.
But do it with out being provoked and its Preaching.
Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and the right to defend them, just as i am doing so now.
but saying others are wrong for disagreeing is just moronic . . . . . |
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Kioku
Mar 31 2006, 09:58 PM
QUOTE(truefusion @ Mar 31 2006, 12:36 PM)
Clearly, this is stated from ignorance. The Bible has been scientifically proven many times! And, so has the fact that animals can give birth as a virgin. Even in nature it happens! Only, that, besides humans, it happens to be always female. And, yes, it happens "once every blue moon".
Oye. One of these arguments. truefusion's right in one aspect, since it has been proven scientifically in many aspects although myself being a former athiest and now agnostic ( since nobody really knows what is or is not ), I have some doubts and skepticism about all religions in general. It might be a general bias, but whatever. Anyway, all in all, nobody knows what religion is right and what's wrong and calling any religion superior is arrogant and ignorant. An above post states that Christianity does not teach about superiority and that's correct, since if I recall correctly, it's stated that judging others is a bad thing.
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htdefiant
Mar 31 2006, 11:18 PM
Wow. I almost do not want to reply to this topic. Of course Christianity is not superior to any other religion. And where is the scientific proof that a virgin can give birth to someone?
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truefusion
Apr 1 2006, 12:03 AM
QUOTE(htdefiant @ Mar 31 2006, 06:18 PM)
And where is the scientific proof that a virgin can give birth to someone?
Mind you, just cause you've been taught that the only way to make a "baby" is by the sperm to be inserted into an egg, doesnt mean that's the ONLY way. But, rather than asking, go find the answer yourself. Here's something you might find interesting...
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Tyssen
Apr 1 2006, 01:23 AM
'Reproduction' and 'birth' are not necessarily the same things. Sure there are other ways to reproduce, but when people refer to 'birth' they're talking about the sperm & egg method of procreation.
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WindAndWater
Apr 4 2006, 04:53 AM
The fact that no religion is innately supperior has already been covered. I'd like to add two things. First, Christianity is not more inclusive than other religions. If anything, many of its sects are much more exclusive than liberal sects of other dominant religions (Judiasm and Islam). Second, truefusion I have to state pretty strenuously that the article you linked to is so dubious as to not really merit any consideration. As far as I know, there has never been a case of a man (xy genes) not recognizing testosterone, or indeed a woman (xx) not recognizing testosterone. That's because both men and women need testosterone to develop -- it's an essential hormone. I think what the author meant to point out when they were talking about an androgenous person was someone with XXY chromosomes, who displays secondary female characteristics but is infertile. Even if we accept the scientifically implausable supposition that such an individual could be fertile, there is no research, anywhere (according to my knowledge) that shows that two gametes in the same individual could fuse to produce a viable zygote. That's because humans and our ancestors chose sexual reproduction for more genetic diversity over asexual reproduction. Let me be specific that I'm not attacking or disputing your religious beliefs, but I do call in to question their scientific backing. If you would like to show me a credible study proving asexual reproduction in humans, with accessable test data, I might change my mind.
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truefusion
Apr 4 2006, 02:21 PM
It is, indeed, a rare occurance. Like i've said, it also happens in nature. And it just so happens the births that happen in nature are all female. How would we know it happens in nature, if there were no findings? It just so happens, that we humans are different than all other animals. So, that should increase the possibility of a female, of our race, to be able to give birth to a male. But tell me something, would you know if you had stuff of the opposite sex inside you, if it did not appear so on the outside? Even science has taken the Bible into consideration for its studies. Since, it's been proven to be true many times. Assuredly, the teachings of the Bible is ahead of its time.
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htdefiant
Apr 4 2006, 02:29 PM
QUOTE(truefusion @ Apr 4 2006, 10:21 AM)
It is, indeed, a rare occurance. Like i've said, it also happens in nature. And it just so happens the births that happen in nature are all female. How would we know it happens in nature, if there were no findings? It just so happens, that we humans are different than all other animals. So, that should increase the possibility of a female, of our race, to be able to give birth to a male.
But tell me something, would you know if you had stuff of the opposite sex inside you, if it did not appear so on the outside?
Even science has taken the Bible into consideration for its studies. Since, it's been proven to be true many times. Assuredly, the teachings of the Bible is ahead of its time.
I understand what you are saying, but is there any scientific proof instead of you assuming there is? If so, can you please give me a credible source such as Wikipedia/Encyclopedia Brit. as opposed to something like the Christian Research Center which would be bias.
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truefusion
Apr 4 2006, 02:56 PM
QUOTE(htdefiant @ Apr 4 2006, 10:29 AM)
I understand what you are saying, but is there any scientific proof instead of you assuming there is? If so, can you please give me a credible source such as Wikipedia/Encyclopedia Brit. as opposed to something like the Christian Research Center which would be bias.
The link i provided in this topic is a Christian Research Center? Strange, it doesnt look like that to me... Or am i misunderstanding you? But, why would you trust any other resources, if you dont trust the first one i put out? Because you want them? I'm not sure about Encyclopedia of Britian, but Wikipedia can be edited, no? But, why just the Encyclopedia of Britian? Why even any encyclopedia?
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PIPER-4-HIRE
Apr 4 2006, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(truefusion @ Apr 4 2006, 10:21 AM)
It is, indeed, a rare occurance. Like i've said, it also happens in nature. And it just so happens the births that happen in nature are all female. How would we know it happens in nature, if there were no findings? It just so happens, that we humans are different than all other animals. So, that should increase the possibility of a female, of our race, to be able to give birth to a male.
But tell me something, would you know if you had stuff of the opposite sex inside you, if it did not appear so on the outside?
Even science has taken the Bible into consideration for its studies. Since, it's been proven to be true many times. Assuredly, the teachings of the Bible is ahead of its time.
it's not as rare as you may think... it is vary possible to give birth without having sex...it's called Artificial Insemenation... it does not prove that the story of the virgin mary is true. as for another way...Asexual reproduction is impossible in homosapiens and our relative's.
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