Can Men And Women Ever Be Equal?

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I read an article a while ago, called 'What Are Men Good For'. Basically, it was a man who looked at the life of a few certain tribes of people, and the roles of men and women within the tribes.Women gathered food, took care of the children, took care of their shelters, took care of any animals they had, etc. Men hunted food -- but a lot of time hunting brought little food to the 'tabl... read more.
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Can Men And Women Ever Be Equal?

TikiPrincess
Anthropologists have shown that most nomadic tribes were matriarchal, that is ruled by a woman. She would make all the important decisions regarding the tribe, such as when to move, where to go, and what jobs people would do. Through Judaism, some tribes became patriarchal, and this patriarchal culture has persisted through the Western world and spread through imperialism and colonialism. (Note: I am not undermining or attacking any religion, I am stating a fact that certain religions, in fact many religions, are patriarchal and tend to favor men over women.) Other tribes continued to be matriarchal until the discovery of agriculture and the rise of settlements. Men began to take control of the settlements and women's roles became undervalued and their role in the community grew smaller and smaller.

Women in the US and many other countries have been fighting for equality: an equal voice in legislature, equal pay at jobs, and equal rights to the benefits that men are entitled to. They've countered the arguments about genetic and mental inferiority through science and proven their ability to compete at the same level as men in almost every field. Yet the actualization of equality is still far from our reach.

Despite the fact that women and men are nearly the same physically, the fact remains that our bodies are different. The presence of a womb does make us different from men and able to do something which they cannot, whether we choose to use it or not. Other studies in psychology have shown that most women do process things differently than men. Women are known to be better at multi-tasking than most men, who must process things one at a time rather than all at once. Whether it's conditioning or biological, the fact remains that there are differences between men and women, so can the two sexes ever really be considered equal?

 

 

 


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srujanlive
As far as I am concerned, they are equal. Ok, they may be better in doing some jobs than the other , but at the end of the day, they are working to do better in this world and thats it. We are equal.

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crazymind21
this is an interesting topic,to leave ur tribe stuff u where talking about alone,cause i think we must be lucky to have tribes, so we can still learn something about the past,wich i think is always interesting,i think if u look back in the past that females, where always put as a weak gender,in the last 50 years this has changed alot ,in the todays world you'll see women working just like man, the only thing basicly whats different, are the fysical,jobs,men do that women don't ,meaning i think men and women are equal. alltho i think they should respect eachother qualities ,meaning that we need to repect what they are good at(womens),and they have to respect what men do,

everyone in the world knows u females supost to be the strong gender,and we die sooner than women, but there is only 1 reason why we die sooner, and thats because, we have to work like maniacs, than listen ur the females whining all they than have sex with,them, than i don't know why they say ur the strong gender, where just dying cause we can't take the whining anymore, and the whining keeps the females alive longer cause thats like drinking beer for them

oh yeah but i still think women and men are equal, but women, plzz stop the whining^^

 

 

 


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cwconline
I dont really believe so which is a shame. Most women can do the same things as men can do, and men sometimes cant do what women do... but yet there is a big disadvantage in both sex, if you are a women you have a more chance of a sectary. and men would probally not get that job.. lol, anyways... its just in the eyes of the employer... and the world, some see women as a threat some see them just as another nobody person...

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Mermaid711
I think that women are equal if not more to men.

Get ready for my feminist rant.

I'm sick to tears of the male chauvonist mentalaty that we are below men. I'd like to see a man try and give birth to a baby.

The other day I wanted to hit my uncle over the head with a shovel because he was going on some rant about how women are poor leaders, and women shouldn't be presidents, and how women would be horrible wartime leaders and blah blah blah.

Like tikiprincess said, we posess the womb, we keep the human race going, we raise the kids. We cook the meals.

And most importantly, we don't act like apes when we see someone like pamela anderson.


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crazymind21
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I think that women are equal if not more to men.

Get ready for my feminist rant.

I'm sick to tears of the male chauvonist mentalaty that we are below men. I'd like to see a man try and give birth to a baby.

The other day I wanted to hit my uncle over the head with a shovel because he was going on some rant about how women are poor leaders, and women shouldn't be presidents, and how women would be horrible wartime leaders and blah blah blah.

Like tikiprincess said, we posess the womb, we keep the human race going, we raise the kids. We cook the meals.

And most importantly, we don't act like apes when we see someone like pamela anderson.


hahahha ,women more than men, is wrong to they shoyuld be equal, and ,females keep the human race going ,what a nonsence there, u need a man to even make a child, and yes u give birth and as ,speaking for all man thank god for that, but u obviously have much to learn,if u think women raise kids and men don't,u raise ur kids together, in the time we live in ,either man and women in a relationship have jobs,so its not always the women stays home and take care of the kids, its u make kids together,and raise them together PERIOD

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rize619
This topic name does't clear that i wich case women and men are not equal or equal...
I think women and men are equal in some cases and in some cases they are not and these cases are clear and no one can say wrong to them
firstly it is clear men are more powerfull then women okay
if some women think that it is wrong then okay if some thiefs enters in your house then leave your all family mens there in the house and go fight with the thiefs hehe
secondly , women and men are euqual with respect to right, they both have same rights.
altast i believe that women should be respected and should be entertained in all aspects of life.

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bluefrostii
that is a good question,
i personally think we are not equal.and no im not being stereotypical or something, we jsut arent equal.
its got nothing to do with our intelligence,or job capabilities, it is simply the way we are.
there was always and always will be the battle between the two sexes, to prove self worth.its just the way it works..pitty huh

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adriantc
QUOTE(TikiPrincess @ Jun 26 2007, 09:22 PM) *
Anthropologists have shown that most nomadic tribes were matriarchal, that is ruled by a woman. She would make all the important decisions regarding the tribe, such as when to move, where to go, and what jobs people would do. Through Judaism, some tribes became patriarchal, and this patriarchal culture has persisted through the Western world and spread through imperialism and colonialism. (Note: I am not undermining or attacking any religion, I am stating a fact that certain religions, in fact many religions, are patriarchal and tend to favor men over women.) Other tribes continued to be matriarchal until the discovery of agriculture and the rise of settlements. Men began to take control of the settlements and women's roles became undervalued and their role in the community grew smaller and smaller.

Women in the US and many other countries have been fighting for equality: an equal voice in legislature, equal pay at jobs, and equal rights to the benefits that men are entitled to. They've countered the arguments about genetic and mental inferiority through science and proven their ability to compete at the same level as men in almost every field. Yet the actualization of equality is still far from our reach.

Despite the fact that women and men are nearly the same physically, the fact remains that our bodies are different. The presence of a womb does make us different from men and able to do something which they cannot, whether we choose to use it or not. Other studies in psychology have shown that most women do process things differently than men. Women are known to be better at multi-tasking than most men, who must process things one at a time rather than all at once. Whether it's conditioning or biological, the fact remains that there are differences between men and women, so can the two sexes ever really be considered equal?


The type of society depends very much on their needs. Nomadic tribes were matriarchal because man used to go hunting so women were left home for some time. More the point man took a greater risk and since the female part is far more important for his species survival, since a small amount of females can give birth to a lot of individuals, but a large amount of males and a small amount of females can't give birth to more individuals. So basically in a nomadic society females are far more important than males. That's why women were in charge, because without them the species would have died.
But in today's world the species survival is no longer at stake. So women aren't as important as to be. Man don't go any longer to hunt... In other words the situation in family took a right turn. Man has always been physically more powerful than women so it was only logical for him to rule the family.

It is very hard for me to imagine equality between genders. First of all because there are very big differences physical and psychical. I fail to see a family with no ruler simply because every society, including the family needs to be lead by someone. Equality would mean that there would be no one in charge of the family. That is impossible... So equality between genders is only a dream, something that cannot be done. It would require perfect morality and that cannot ever be achieved.



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rize619
yes adriantc i am 100% quite with your wordings.... This question depends upon the society in wich we are living every question about women change with respect to envoirnment and society ,See the example of afganistan where the women literacy rate is almost zero but it does't mean that they are sniffing the women rights and voilate the human right but i think as i say that it changes with envoirnment and society ...

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hexbreaker
I read an article a while ago, called 'What Are Men Good For'. Basically, it was a man who looked at the life of a few certain tribes of people, and the roles of men and women within the tribes.
Women gathered food, took care of the children, took care of their shelters, took care of any animals they had, etc. Men hunted food -- but a lot of time hunting brought little food to the 'table'. And when it did, the meat was shared with the entire tribe.

I found it kind of interesting how well-suited the sexes were to their 'traditional' place, with women doing the main things and men mostly doing everything that involved fighting (both physical and not).

But society really is different today, and if the sexes take on a certain role, they do it by choice. Different doesn't mean unequal, it just means different.

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anwiii
QUOTE(krazygoddess @ Nov 28 2007, 07:55 PM) *
I agree I also believe we are equal, but that yes there are some things that men are better at them women and somethings women are better at then men. But I dont think that men will ever see it like this.


i don't think you read liams post smile.gif

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krazygoddess
QUOTE(srujanlive @ Jun 26 2007, 04:07 PM) *
As far as I am concerned, they are equal. Ok, they may be better in doing some jobs than the other , but at the end of the day, they are working to do better in this world and thats it. We are equal.

I agree I also believe we are equal, but that yes there are some things that men are better at them women and somethings women are better at then men. But I dont think that men will ever see it like this.

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anwiii
QUOTE(Liam_CF @ Nov 28 2007, 03:35 PM) *
In my opinion, women and men are equal. It is true that men can do things that women cannot do and that women can do things that man cannot. However, I do not view this as bad, as I believe that diversity is good for culture and communities.

I would hope that other people see this in the same way that I do, and one day this will be a general belief.


well put liam! i was going to post the exact comment you just made. men and women ARE equal. they are not the same but they offer different things. the differences compliment eachother. in old school tradition, the man is the providor and the woman stays home to take care of the house and kids. fact is, they are both providors. one with money and discipline, the other with love and nurturing.

i'm glad you posted before i did. made me smile. not a lot of people will agree with you. usually one will be the stronger force in a society or culture in most peoples mindsets.

now i must go and kill a lion to prove my manhood since tribes and the culture they believe in is still important to this day and we can all learn from it....



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Liam_CF
In my opinion, women and men are equal. It is true that men can do things that women cannot do and that women can do things that man cannot. However, I do not view this as bad, as I believe that diversity is good for culture and communities.

I would hope that other people see this in the same way that I do, and one day this will be a general belief.

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