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Can There Be More Than One Universe?

amit nigam
Our universe is so big and we haven't explored even a millionth of a millionth of .......... part of it. We have not gone anywhere outside our own solar system.
Yet some scientists, in which there is greatest among the greats Sir Einstien also, believe that there is more than one universe in which we can go by passing through a worm hole.
It is quite an intriguing topic and once you start studying about it you go more and more deep into it.The logic behind this is, "though there are mathematical models also but i m talking here in our day to day general language", that every particle has its antiparticle and extending that logicto universe scientists conclude that there must be an antiuniverse to every universe.
Some even suggest that to every universe there must be a universe in which similar kind of things must be happening but the direction of time must be reverse, that is my anti- in the universe which will be corresponding to our universe will be born old and die as a child.
Also about time travel it is written that if we travel around the event horizon of a blackhole we will reach back in time but not in this universe but our corresponding universe.
These things quite puzzle me very much. I m posting this so that i can have views and any interesting facts on this topic which is so exciting and mind-blowing.
Do write.

Bye Pals.

 

 

 


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Budmaster11
If there was another universe it wouldn't be another one. It would have to be somehow conected to our universe somhow and then if it was it would be the same universe. It's kindof like sayong that inside your house and outside of it are two different sorlds.

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dodgerblue
You should watch Donnie Darko. It deals with the concept of a Parallel or Tangent Universe.

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Sprnknwn
I don´t think so. We still don´t know about the limits (if there are) of the universe we know. Maybe it´s infinite... we don´t know, so it´s a waste of time to think about others right now. For me, a universe is all that exists so there´s no reason why should be two... if there were, would be two parts of the same universe. It´s confusing but I guess you know what I mean. laugh.gif

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fortminorishot
there could be, but hence the name there's only one... currently.

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matto
QUOTE(amit nigam @ May 2 2006, 09:32 AM) *

Our universe is so big and we haven't explored even a millionth of a millionth of .......... part of it. We have not gone anywhere outside our own solar system.
Yet some scientists, in which there is greatest among the greats Sir Einstien also, believe that there is more than one universe in which we can go by passing through a worm hole.

Firstly, I think the concept of worm holes were supposed to mean traveling from one place of the universe to another place, still in the same univese. And I don't think that Einstein, nor Hawking or anyone else, have ever specifically said that they think that there is more than one universe.

Actually, I think that there cannot be more than one universe simply because the definition of the word 'universe' doesn't allow it. The universe is specifically: Everything. There can't be two everythings! That's like saying that there is a 2*infinity amount of stars in the universe, it's the same as saying there's an infinity amount of stars in the universe. Here's the def'n:
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All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.

I don't think that that definition allows for there to be more than one universe, though I do think that the universe is so fricken huge that it may seem to be an infinite, or "double infinite," or even two universes into one, but in the end all of those boil down to the same thing...

 

 

 


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DogEater008
lol. i'm guessing you're talking about parallel universes. The idea of multiple universes is not even a theory, it's just a myth. Only ideas that can be proven with evidence or to have a way to test it can be called a theory. Ideas that cannot be proven is not consisted as theory. Since you are talking about multiple universes, then i'm pretty sure you have at leasted heard of the string theory. The string theory isn't really a theory, since there are no way to prove it.

I don't exactly know what is the different between a wormhole and a black hole, other then that wormholes can be vary in sizes. People believe that black hole can be used for time travel. The reason why people think of it this way is that, the gravitational pull of the blackhole is so intense that lights cannot escape from it (therefore it is called a blackhole, since you cannot see it). Scientists treat time the same way as they treat waves. The stronger the gravity, the better it can bend and pull the wave. Imagine time being pull and bend, time would get longer which means to outsider observers ... you are SLOWING DOWN EXTREMELY, but to your observation, time travel normally. So if you were sucked in by a blackhole, people will see (if the light can escape from the gravity) that you have a slow and painfull death, but to you.. the instants that you were sucked in.. you were crumpled up into a tiny little dusts.

My point is, it might be possible to slow down or acclerate time, but you cannot go back/reverse into time. It just seem illogical.

It's pretty hard to imagine of a multiple unverises because as we know it, our universe is infinite. So the idea of multiple unverises is like 2 times infinity.

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dodgerblue
Actually, if there were more than one, it wouldn't be called "universe" anymore because "uni" means only one.

Edit: Well, or even if there were more than one, like what matto said, it's counted as one combined, united, etc etc you get the picture. If you wanted to consider more than one "set" of planets, stars, moon, etc, you would have to redefine terms, words, entire discourses... entire subjects... Kind of pointless imho biggrin.gif

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Saint_Michael
I have to agree We do not know what lies outside our solar system nor our universe.

Alot of theories have been discuss since man could think. But I do not think we have a border to the universe all together. It could be the cruelest thing that could happen that we the human species are the only ones in exsistence.

Or if their is another life form out there they know not to come here due to our evil intentions we display as a human species.

The closest to another universe would have to death. If a soul, superior being exsist then thats where it will be.

Also think about this our Sun is a ticking time bomb if our solar system is 13 billion years old are sun would be around that age as well. Most stars live what 20-30 billions years or a few hundred billion maybe. But what I'm getting at is that once Our sun blows you can kiss the first 3 planets good bye along with mars maybe if the blast radius gets that far.

Mankind is not even close to space travel, unlike the anime and tv shows we watch and books we read already has us there. But look at whats been happening in the last 2000 years give or take how you want to work what timeline in to that.

Also we are not protected from astroids or comets either it just take one giant size astroid to finish us and thats it. If a superior being exsist maybe it will prevent the destruction of mankind and actually show us what we need to do to actually survive when the days comes that our sun explodes.

But to answer some other of the posts, yes worm holes are only in theory since no one can prove they exsist, the closest you could think of a wormhole would be a black hole since no one really knows whats on the otherside as well.

I wouldn't mind space travel, going beyond the speed of light and travel billions and billions of miles to see if we are alone in this universe.

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amit nigam
This is to all my dear friends who who have doubted the possibility of another universe, or time travel or wormholes.

Actually i m just an average guy like most of us and doing computer engineering. So i have not studied over these kind of theoritical concepts. so whatever i have written is not some kind of my own theory.

Those of you people who doubt the theory of space travel, like going into the past, and the theory of wormholes, I suggest them that they go through Sir Stephen Hawkings book, "A Brief History of Time".
I m giving you the address where you can find it. Just paste the given address to go through the amazing book,
http://www.physics.metu.edu.tr/~fizikt/html/hawking/A_Brief_History_in_Time.html

I m giving below some quotes from Sir Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" to prove that both einstien and hawking take these things as a possibility, and that too very seriously.

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We now know that every particle has an antiparticle, with which it can annihilate. There could be whole antiworlds and antipeople made out of antiparticles. However, if you meet your antiself, don't shake hands! You would both vanish in a great flash of light.


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According to this theory [strong anthropic principle], there are either many different universes or many different regions of a single universe, each with its own initial configuration and, perhaps, with its own set of laws of science. In most of these universes the conditions would not be right for the development of complicated organisms; only in the few universes that are like ours would intelligent beings develop and ask the question: "Why is the universe the way we see it?" The answer is then simple: If it had been different, we would not be here!


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The idea of wormholes between different regions of space-time was not an invention of science fiction writers but came from a very respectable source.

In 1935, Einstein and Nathan Rosen wrote a paper in which they showed that general relativity allowed what they called “bridges,” but which are now known as wormholes. The Einstein-Rosen bridges didn’t last long enough for a spaceship to get through: the ship would run into a singularity as the wormhole pinched off. However, it has been suggested that it might be possible for an advanced civilization to keep a wormhole open.


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We thus have experimental evidence both that space-time can be warped (from the bending of light during eclipses) and that it can be curved in the way necessary to allow time travel (from the Casimir effect). One might hope therefore that as we advance in science and technology, we would eventually manage to build a time machine. But if so, why hasn’t anyone come back from the future and told us how to do it? There might be good reasons why it would be unwise to give us the secret of time travel at our present primitive state of development, but unless human nature changes radically, it is difficult to believe that some visitor from the future wouldn’t spill the beans. Of course, some people would claim that sightings of UFOs are evidence that we are being visited either by aliens or by people from the future. (If the aliens were to get here in reasonable time, they would need faster-than-light travel, so the two possibilities may be equivalent.)



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Any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis: you can never prove it. No matter how many times the results of experiments agree with some theory, you can never be sure that the next time the result will not contradict the theory.


I highly recommend all my pals to go through this book because it will change your whole perspective towards these kind of ultra - scientific things and its quite interesting too.

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Multiverse
Can There Be More Than One Universe?

Hi, I've fot the answer to that. MULTIVERSE. Why, you ask? Because "uni" means "only one." Therefore, you get the word "universe." However, "multi" means "more than one," hence the word "multiverse." Do you get the idea? You do? That's great(just a little humor, LOL:p)! But don't credit me with the idea. Thank the producers of the TV series TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES! They came up with this adventure called "The Battle Nexus"(which, by the way, according to the series, is a "world between worlds, between dimensions, even"). My brother has it on videocassette, but we haven't watched it in a long time. OMG, LOL, it's hard to believe that a kids' anime could be helpful, especially with complex subjects such as the universe(or miltiverse), time travel, wormholes, and all that "jazz.":D And what's even more surprising is that I'm only a teen, and I managed to figure all this out(with a little help from a kids' show). Freaky, huh? Dang, I'm such a NERD! Okay, 'NUFF SAID. THNX to every1 who reads and considers/agrees with this "lil' piece of 'info!'"



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iGuest
Travelling faster than the universe.
Can There Be More Than One Universe?

Say if we were to travel faster than the universe expands what would happen? Would there just be a big bang outside of what we know is there? COULD there be a second universe? Would there be dark matter for millions of miles until there was a second universe? Could they be parrallel universes? What I'm trying to say(or ask, if you can try to answer this please do so) the word universe. What is it? HUMANS made the word universe to there understanding in there only be ONE universe. That word was simply the word they chose to use at that time. Who is to say there isnt more than one universe? I am a high school student, year ten,I'm interested in this stuff but... It just ****'s me to think that if there will be a "big crunch" thats the end of us all? I just hate to think about it. I thought to myself, WHY. Could we travel for billions of years on end to get to a new universe to escape a "big crunch"? But, what if there isnt a big crunch. We would have to move away from the sun exploding but... This is all assuming that there is a big crunch... There is so much we don't know, and it just scares me that there arnt intellectual beings in another probable galaxy or another universe. What if there was another universe? We as humans live in hope. Thats how God was "created" Hope for "More" after death... Everyone hates death, and somehow, I always conclude, or link death with the freakin universe and God. Somehow I find that its all interlinked. But then again I ask myself... Why, how can there be a God?

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Prophet.K
QUOTE(amit nigam @ May 2 2006, 04:32 PM) *
Our universe is so big and we haven't explored even a millionth of a millionth of .......... part of it. We have not gone anywhere outside our own solar system.
Yet some scientists, in which there is greatest among the greats Sir Einstien also, believe that there is more than one universe in which we can go by passing through a worm hole.
It is quite an intriguing topic and once you start studying about it you go more and more deep into it.The logic behind this is, "though there are mathematical models also but i m talking here in our day to day general language", that every particle has its antiparticle and extending that logicto universe scientists conclude that there must be an antiuniverse to every universe.
Some even suggest that to every universe there must be a universe in which similar kind of things must be happening but the direction of time must be reverse, that is my anti- in the universe which will be corresponding to our universe will be born old and die as a child.
Also about time travel it is written that if we travel around the event horizon of a blackhole we will reach back in time but not in this universe but our corresponding universe.
These things quite puzzle me very much. I m posting this so that i can have views and any interesting facts on this topic which is so exciting and mind-blowing.
Do write.

Bye Pals.


I think that they're might be a line that serperates universes. What im seeing it as is that even if you get pass your universe. How would you know? I mean its pure space. Darkness. Maybe if you see new planets or maybe another dimension is lighter. Just wondering.

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iGuest
Parallel Universe
Can There Be More Than One Universe?

What if the parallel universe essentially "overlaps" our universe. Based on quantum mechanics, matter can have multiple existence. Our physical reality of a known quantum state may be coexisting with another physical reality in another quantum state. Frankly, I think the Big Bang is a Christian influenced science that everything started from a singular point. Before our universe, there was another universe that cooled off and after infinite time started expanding again. There may be multiple parallel universes overlapping each other, each one in some unknown thermodynamic state of their own. My 0.0002 cents, gravity is rotational centripetal flux caused by rotating objects. Since the universe began, everything is spinning. That's why gravity is unidirectional and points to the center of the mass creating it (e.G earth, sun, black hole) and related to rotational speed, density of the physical mass. The flux may be modern string theory.

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Zagete
We can never know for sure if there is another universe, but we can see physic theories and try to understand them.

I think there is a possibility for a mirror (where opposite things of what happens here happen there) universe to exist parallel to ours. But since it's parallel we can never see it or even happen to be in it.

I voted yes biggrin.gif

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