Can There Be More Than One Universe?

amit nigam

May 2 2006, 04:32 PM

Our universe is so big and we haven't explored even a millionth of a millionth of .......... part of it. We have not gone anywhere outside our own solar system.
Yet some scientists, in which there is greatest among the greats Sir Einstien also, believe that there is more than one universe in which we can go by passing through a worm hole.
It is quite an intriguing topic and once you start studying about it you go more and more deep into it.The logic behind this is, "though there are mathematical models also but i m talking here in our day to day general language", that every particle has its antiparticle and extending that logicto universe scientists conclude that there must be an antiuniverse to every universe.
Some even suggest that to every universe there must be a universe in which similar kind of things must be happening but the direction of time must be reverse, that is my anti- in the universe which will be corresponding to our universe will be born old and die as a child.
Also about time travel it is written that if we travel around the event horizon of a blackhole we will reach back in time but not in this universe but our corresponding universe.
These things quite puzzle me very much. I m posting this so that i can have views and any interesting facts on this topic which is so exciting and mind-blowing.
Do write.

Bye Pals.

Budmaster11

May 2 2006, 05:00 PM

If there was another universe it wouldn't be another one. It would have to be somehow conected to our universe somhow and then if it was it would be the same universe. It's kindof like sayong that inside your house and outside of it are two different sorlds.

dodgerblue

May 2 2006, 07:09 PM

You should watch Donnie Darko. It deals with the concept of a Parallel or Tangent Universe.

Sprnknwn

May 2 2006, 07:43 PM

I don´t think so. We still don´t know about the limits (if there are) of the universe we know. Maybe it´s infinite... we don´t know, so it´s a waste of time to think about others right now. For me, a universe is all that exists so there´s no reason why should be two... if there were, would be two parts of the same universe. It´s confusing but I guess you know what I mean.

fortminorishot

May 2 2006, 09:20 PM

there could be, but hence the name there's only one... currently.

matto

May 3 2006, 04:01 AM

QUOTE(amit nigam @ May 2 2006, 09:32 AM)

Firstly, I think the concept of worm holes were supposed to mean traveling from one place of the universe to another place, still in the same univese. And I don't think that Einstein, nor Hawking or anyone else, have ever specifically said that they think that there is more than one universe.

Actually, I think that there cannot be more than one universe simply because the definition of the word 'universe' doesn't allow it. The universe is specifically: Everything. There can't be two everythings! That's like saying that there is a 2*infinity amount of stars in the universe, it's the same as saying there's an infinity amount of stars in the universe. Here's the def'n:

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All matter and energy, including the earth, the galaxies, and the contents of intergalactic space, regarded as a whole.

I don't think that that definition allows for there to be more than one universe, though I do think that the universe is so fricken huge that it may seem to be an infinite, or "double infinite," or even two universes into one, but in the end all of those boil down to the same thing...

DogEater008

May 3 2006, 06:15 AM

lol. i'm guessing you're talking about parallel universes. The idea of multiple universes is not even a theory, it's just a myth. Only ideas that can be proven with evidence or to have a way to test it can be called a theory. Ideas that cannot be proven is not consisted as theory. Since you are talking about multiple universes, then i'm pretty sure you have at leasted heard of the string theory. The string theory isn't really a theory, since there are no way to prove it.

I don't exactly know what is the different between a wormhole and a black hole, other then that wormholes can be vary in sizes. People believe that black hole can be used for time travel. The reason why people think of it this way is that, the gravitational pull of the blackhole is so intense that lights cannot escape from it (therefore it is called a blackhole, since you cannot see it). Scientists treat time the same way as they treat waves. The stronger the gravity, the better it can bend and pull the wave. Imagine time being pull and bend, time would get longer which means to outsider observers ... you are SLOWING DOWN EXTREMELY, but to your observation, time travel normally. So if you were sucked in by a blackhole, people will see (if the light can escape from the gravity) that you have a slow and painfull death, but to you.. the instants that you were sucked in.. you were crumpled up into a tiny little dusts.

My point is, it might be possible to slow down or acclerate time, but you cannot go back/reverse into time. It just seem illogical.

It's pretty hard to imagine of a multiple unverises because as we know it, our universe is infinite. So the idea of multiple unverises is like 2 times infinity.

dodgerblue

May 3 2006, 05:25 PM

Actually, if there were more than one, it wouldn't be called "universe" anymore because "uni" means only one.

Edit: Well, or even if there were more than one, like what matto said, it's counted as one combined, united, etc etc you get the picture. If you wanted to consider more than one "set" of planets, stars, moon, etc, you would have to redefine terms, words, entire discourses... entire subjects... Kind of pointless imho

Saint_Michael

May 3 2006, 05:52 PM

I have to agree We do not know what lies outside our solar system nor our universe.

Alot of theories have been discuss since man could think. But I do not think we have a border to the universe all together. It could be the cruelest thing that could happen that we the human species are the only ones in exsistence.

Or if their is another life form out there they know not to come here due to our evil intentions we display as a human species.

The closest to another universe would have to death. If a soul, superior being exsist then thats where it will be.

Also think about this our Sun is a ticking time bomb if our solar system is 13 billion years old are sun would be around that age as well. Most stars live what 20-30 billions years or a few hundred billion maybe. But what I'm getting at is that once Our sun blows you can kiss the first 3 planets good bye along with mars maybe if the blast radius gets that far.

Mankind is not even close to space travel, unlike the anime and tv shows we watch and books we read already has us there. But look at whats been happening in the last 2000 years give or take how you want to work what timeline in to that.

Also we are not protected from astroids or comets either it just take one giant size astroid to finish us and thats it. If a superior being exsist maybe it will prevent the destruction of mankind and actually show us what we need to do to actually survive when the days comes that our sun explodes.

But to answer some other of the posts, yes worm holes are only in theory since no one can prove they exsist, the closest you could think of a wormhole would be a black hole since no one really knows whats on the otherside as well.

I wouldn't mind space travel, going beyond the speed of light and travel billions and billions of miles to see if we are alone in this universe.

amit nigam

May 4 2006, 07:36 PM

This is to all my dear friends who who have doubted the possibility of another universe, or time travel or wormholes.

Actually i m just an average guy like most of us and doing computer engineering. So i have not studied over these kind of theoritical concepts. so whatever i have written is not some kind of my own theory.

Those of you people who doubt the theory of space travel, like going into the past, and the theory of wormholes, I suggest them that they go through Sir Stephen Hawkings book, "A Brief History of Time".
I m giving you the address where you can find it. Just paste the given address to go through the amazing book,
http://www.physics.metu.edu.tr/~fizikt/html/hawking/A_Brief_History_in_Time.html

I m giving below some quotes from Sir Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" to prove that both einstien and hawking take these things as a possibility, and that too very seriously.

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We now know that every particle has an antiparticle, with which it can annihilate. There could be whole antiworlds and antipeople made out of antiparticles. However, if you meet your antiself, don't shake hands! You would both vanish in a great flash of light.

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According to this theory [strong anthropic principle], there are either many different universes or many different regions of a single universe, each with its own initial configuration and, perhaps, with its own set of laws of science. In most of these universes the conditions would not be right for the development of complicated organisms; only in the few universes that are like ours would intelligent beings develop and ask the question: "Why is the universe the way we see it?" The answer is then simple: If it had been different, we would not be here!

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The idea of wormholes between different regions of space-time was not an invention of science fiction writers but came from a very respectable source.

In 1935, Einstein and Nathan Rosen wrote a paper in which they showed that general relativity allowed what they called “bridges,” but which are now known as wormholes. The Einstein-Rosen bridges didn’t last long enough for a spaceship to get through: the ship would run into a singularity as the wormhole pinched off. However, it has been suggested that it might be possible for an advanced civilization to keep a wormhole open.

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We thus have experimental evidence both that space-time can be warped (from the bending of light during eclipses) and that it can be curved in the way necessary to allow time travel (from the Casimir effect). One might hope therefore that as we advance in science and technology, we would eventually manage to build a time machine. But if so, why hasn’t anyone come back from the future and told us how to do it? There might be good reasons why it would be unwise to give us the secret of time travel at our present primitive state of development, but unless human nature changes radically, it is difficult to believe that some visitor from the future wouldn’t spill the beans. Of course, some people would claim that sightings of UFOs are evidence that we are being visited either by aliens or by people from the future. (If the aliens were to get here in reasonable time, they would need faster-than-light travel, so the two possibilities may be equivalent.)

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Any physical theory is always provisional, in the sense that it is only a hypothesis: you can never prove it. No matter how many times the results of experiments agree with some theory, you can never be sure that the next time the result will not contradict the theory.

I highly recommend all my pals to go through this book because it will change your whole perspective towards these kind of ultra - scientific things and its quite interesting too.

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All the Mysteries about Human Life on Earth in the Past and Today, are being revealed today. It is exciting times.

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iGuest

Aug 12 2008, 06:34 PM

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The Original Perfect Human Colony, made Mis-bred Killer Humans by Heterosexual Body Birth. These Defective Human Fruits of the Tree of LIFE, have the Genetic Cruel Streak that Kill, not only Humans, but All Life on Earth.

Now Killer Humans have High Tech Nuclear Weapons, that will be used for the End of Life on Earth. God, nor our Ancestors Kill. Mis-bred Humans Kill.

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Thou Shalt Not Kill, and Turn The Other Cheek, 'spoken' by the Earth Gods, are not observed by their Worshipers, in Pagan Temples made by Human Hands.

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iGuest

Aug 8 2008, 04:02 PM

Humanae Vatie
Can There Be More Than One Universe?

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The Clones Reproduced the Adam and Eve Peace, Equal Clone 'Helpmeet' Colony, in their Image. Why Asexual Male Clones, Started Unequal Heterosexual Body Birth Reproduction, with their Female Sister Clones, the Original Sin, still needs an Explanation.

This Original Human Sex Act, Reproduced Inbred/Mis-bred Unequal Human Males and Female 'Mates,' with different Genetics and Physical Appearance. Their Fallen Lifestyle resulted in Physical Death After Birth.

The High Tech Noah/Atlantis Society had a High Tech Science and Population Explosion, like we have had today. Their Weapons of Massive Destruction and their Pollution on land and sea, Caused the Planetary Flood. Not God.

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Today's Human Planetary Judgement Day Fire, Humans are setting up, will also get rid of our Population Explosion. Not 'God'.

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iGuest

Aug 6 2008, 07:36 PM

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When we consider that the Original Humans, the Adam and Eve Colony, lost their Virginity, with the Heterosexual Sex Act, that Reproduced Mis-bred Humans, Cain, Abel, and since, all Humans on Earth, we will understand what Jesus said, about Entering Heaven, as a little child.

Little children cannot reproduce by Heterosexual Body Birth, Until they mature. Heterosexual Body Birth, makes Human Inequality and Inhumanity, Killers, and Abusers of All God's Life on Earth, including their Home Planet.

Any Human on Earth, born in Sin, cannot enter into the Physical Heaven of 'God', our High Tech Ancestors, until they are 'Regenerated' by High Tech, to a Pure-bred Physical Body, like Jesus was.

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We do need a High Tech Science Translation of the King James Bible, All Scripture and Myth, to find the Truth of Eternal Physical Human Life After Birth on Planets and in Spaceships.

-reply by Dolores Lear

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iGuest

Aug 5 2008, 08:14 PM

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All parts of our Home Planet, have religions about Supernatural God Humans. Even New Guinea, with the Cargo Cult, that started in WW2, calling our pilots flying in supplies to our Army Base, Gods.

This proves Humans without High Tech Science Knowledge, that experience Flying Humans in airplanes or Spaceships, do Call High Tech Science Flying Humans, Supernatural 'Being' Gods.

Humans in the Past, also described God, as Higher 'Beings', Spirit 'Beings', (whatever a Spirit Being is) Goddesses, and Angels. Genesis, is about our High Tech Ancestors, taking humans with them in their vehicles, and 'spiriting' them from one place to another; ergo: Caught up in the Spirit.

Jesus, coming up from the water at Baptism; the Spirit like a dove descending upon him. Mark 1:12. KJV. "And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness." He was not chased, but transported, in the Spirit vehicle.

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Why is it so difficult to translate all this Past supernatural happenings, with our High Tech Science today? High Tech did not happen on Earth, until today? Fiery chariots and thrones up in the air? Impossible?

Because all the people in the Past, were ignorant of High Tech Science? Those Higher 'Beings' were not Human? Even though we are in their Physical Image?

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