serverph
Jul 7 2005, 07:25 PM
Broadband over power line standard comingQUOTE Move over Wi-Fi, broadband over power lines, which allows people to get Internet access simply by plugging into the electrical outlet on their wall, could become the next super-easy way to connect to the Net. http://news.com.com/2061-10785_3-5776350.h...76350&subj=newswall street journal also reports: Google, partners to back broadband venturehttp://today.reuters.com/investing/finance...-45_N07256697:1QUOTE NEW YORK, July 7 (Reuters) - Google Inc. (GOOG.O: Quote, Profile, Research), Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS.N: Quote, Profile, Research) and Hearst Corp. are investing about $100 million in Current Communications Group, a start-up that offers high-speed Internet connections over electricity lines, The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday. that's more like it!  google brings in a much-needed boost to this developing standard, and soon we will be enjoying broadband the easy way.  just plug-and-surf!
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snlildude87
Jul 7 2005, 07:48 PM
Woop-da-dee-woo! Hopefully the prices for the new broadband will be cheaper. I really wanna get rid of my 56K connection.
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cragllo
Jul 7 2005, 11:44 PM
over here, a new ISP will be offering 24Mbps broadband with ADSL2+, http://www.bethere.co.uk/there is an artice here: http://networks.silicon.com/broadband/0,39...39145028,00.htm
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tuddy
Jul 8 2005, 09:05 AM
What next? I guess internet can't get more advanced from this point, Only Quicker! Could then be a standard in every house to have a internet capable point in every room just like a powerpoint! Need to get rid of paying for the line, and pay just for the plan, that way you can have other people use your line when there around and stuff. ah well, Life can only get better... Sits awaits for the worlds computers to go bang, and Cry! 
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rvalkass
Jul 8 2005, 05:57 PM
There are already plans, albeit very vague ones, to give every member of the population a computer, linked to a broadband connection and a huge nationwide network. This will allow people to report problems to local councils, get medical advice and book appointments with their GP, get tourist information, anything that is vaguely related to public services and the government. I think it is a great idea and should be put into the homes of housebound people immediately, even if it can only be used to call for assistance. If the government would make the broadband network public owned (e.g. not owned by separate companies) prices would drop and it would be very easy to give everyone broadband. Greed stops so many good ideas...
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tuddy
Jul 9 2005, 02:11 AM
Sadly, thats how this world operates, maybe one day what you say will become a reality. More along the lines of a panel in the wall. Like those in the movie "The 5th Element". Even in transport, you can now have online tickets machine hooked by braodband to a server location. Like online credits sorta thing. Imagine the future with broadband, how many people would bother going out then?
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bureX
Jul 9 2005, 01:43 PM
WiFi is not going anywhere! There is a big difference between enjoying your broadband connection (through existing power lines) at home and relaxing in your back yard with a huge power chord hanging from your laptop! Wireless technology is the future of networking, but in this case, there is no point of making things more complicated for end users when everybody has a power plug in their home that can be used as a device to access an high speed internet connection! Unfortunately, I think that this will be a bit tricky to perform... A single power line will be used by many home users... is this technology able to give so much bandwidth? What about the wires themselves? In some cities, power lines are quite damaged and may cause a major decrease in surfing speed! What about lightning storms? How much will this equipment cost if it has to keep running even when the power through those power lines is very unstable? Allot of problems have to be solved before this technology steps into our homes... By the way, transferring data through power lines is not a major discovery! The Home Plug 1.0.1 standard transfers data through power lines at a frequency of about 4MHz and up to 21MHz, while the power itself is still able to be transferred through the power lines at a frequency of 50Hz (in some countries, it’s 60Hz). There is a big difference between 50Hz and 21000000Hz, therefore, data should travel through the power lines without any problems. This standard is already implemented! Take a look at the MSI Ethernet to Powerline HomePlug Adapter: http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/com...ail.php?UID=601It can support data rates up to 14Mbps and it also supports 56-bit data encryption! Pretty neat, huh? Unfortunately, I read somewhere that these power adapters tend to heat up. And that's not the only thing that is wrong with it... The data rate dramatically decreases if the wiring in your house is not in a good condition, or if the distance between the two adapters increase. Some users complained that the connection is very unstable if you plug in and turn on a vacuum cleaner somewhere in the house! However, this is a good choice for users that don't want to drill holes in their houses just to connect two computers together!
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TimothyA
Jul 10 2005, 02:35 AM
I am all for this kind of internet, even though it's already invented since my birthyear.... I mean, why havn't they implemented it yet? Because it's expensive to install.... And therefore I am totally for this option of internet so I can finally kick the bucket on my government ISP who is charging me right now 300USD a month just to "enjoy" 128kbit/32kbit internet which barely even functions.... If googlebots read this, please buy curacao and use it as a testing facility 
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jay2aust
Jul 15 2005, 08:08 AM
omg..such a genius invention ... man i would love to hv that..all we need to do is plug it into a power point! how good is that .. lol now days its rare to see wi-fi spot around and i guess in the future..its hard to even find a bloddy power plug hahah
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Noonster22
Jul 15 2005, 08:19 PM
Although Broadband over powerline may be the hype of today, the same can not be said about tomorrow. Since Broadband over powerline is capped at a rate of 14mbps, 20mbps max, it will not become the future. The future demands a strong baseline of speed, and the traditional DSL and 56k has it. No not copperwires, but Fiber Optics. Cable has already adopted to these standards. Although many residential cable connections are capped at 3mps-6mbps, its full capactity speed is at 100mbps. Your comcast internet cable provider is just limiting your speed! Imagine this: the fastest broadband known today is cable. 1) OC-28, OC-Lines (Up to 1GB of transfer) -- Cable. 2) Residential Cable (Fiber Optics) Up to 100MBPS -- Cable. 3) Governmental Labatory Internet (Fiber Optics) Up to 1 TB -- Cable.
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mixxoys
Feb 11 2007, 12:35 AM
Its not going to be worth it at all!
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Watermonkey
Feb 9 2007, 06:38 AM
QUOTE(Noonster22 @ Jul 15 2005, 12:19 PM)  Imagine this: the fastest broadband known today is cable.
1) OC-28, OC-Lines (Up to 1GB of transfer) -- Cable.
2) Residential Cable (Fiber Optics) Up to 100MBPS -- Cable.
3) Governmental Labatory Internet (Fiber Optics) Up to 1 TB -- Cable. I'm not sure what you mean exactly in the above quote, but the "O" in OC-28 (I've never heard of OC28, there's OC48 and other multiples of 12 -OC4, OC12, OC48, OC192 are the most common, but not OC28 to my knowledge) means "Optical" and a single DS-3 (43.12 MB/s if my math is correct) can't be transported more than about 100 feet through a single copper cable (similar in appearance to the type of cable used to connect your cable TV or satellite). In number 2 and 3 you have "fiber optics" in parenthesis yet you say cable. I guess I just don't understand what you mean by "cable". To me, it means copper. The only way to carry any of the above is optical fiber, not copper. Did I miss something? There are problems with broadband over power, or at least there were. Perhaps they've ironed things out by now. The biggest problem with BPL is leakage, interference causing radio transmission and reception to be nearly impossible in an area near the BPL service. This flies in the face of FCC laws that have been on the books since 1934 and if those laws were to be removed amateur and professional radio would be in real trouble. As far as I can see through quick research this problem hasn't been resolved. I don't know how it's working in Oz...
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matak
Feb 2 2007, 10:49 AM
i just can't belive this.. i just can't... it's just.. strange.. very strange.. i was thinking about this idea for some time, and posted something for google.. what.. ok, discard this reply but.. strange. i'm going off now.. for a day or two maybe week or month. probably a year 
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Hahaha. I don't know if that kind of thing is feasible here in where I live, where poor people still have to pilfer electricity. This is a good idea though, and I'd like to see it in my place someday. I'm currently on cable internet, and it's okay; doesn't lag like DSL.
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iscatel
Jan 7 2007, 02:52 PM
QUOTE(Noonster22 @ Jul 15 2005, 03:19 PM)
Although Broadband over powerline may be the hype of today, the same can not be said about tomorrow.
Since Broadband over powerline is capped at a rate of 14mbps, 20mbps max, it will not become the future.
The future demands a strong baseline of speed, and the traditional DSL and 56k has it. No not copperwires, but Fiber Optics.
Cable has already adopted to these standards.
Although many residential cable connections are capped at 3mps-6mbps, its full capactity speed is at 100mbps. Your comcast internet cable provider is just limiting your speed!
Imagine this: the fastest broadband known today is cable.
1) OC-28, OC-Lines (Up to 1GB of transfer) -- Cable.
2) Residential Cable (Fiber Optics) Up to 100MBPS -- Cable.
3) Governmental Labatory Internet (Fiber Optics) Up to 1 TB -- Cable.
over the power lines????? so we've got all these switching power supplies throwing line noise onto the grid that everyone has to buy power conditioners so they don't have problems that they have just caused, and now into that noise someone wants to throw signal and try to pull it back out again? Bizzare dead end.
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