campusjunk

Nov 9 2004, 07:58 PM

I'd go with amd also. Thats what i have in my computer. And i just put a AMD 64 in a friends computer, and it fly's. I dont think intel even has there 64-bit chip anymore. I think they scrapped it because it sucked . Im also a big fan of amd's because they are quite a lot cheeper. And most of the time quicker than intels.

I've got an amd 2100+ with 3 sticks of 256 in it. It goes pretty good.

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alperuzi

Nov 9 2004, 11:55 PM

it is comming, but there has been a major shift in powers. As you know the PC is said to be Intel architecture, ie x86. Intel's 64bit is basically a copy of AMD64 extensions. So there you have the cpu giant basically replicating AMD technology and claiming it is its own.

Just that there still is no sign as to when Windows XP 64 edition will come out. Otherwise 64 extensions are pretty much useless unless you use them in custom compiled Linux programs. I'm guessing Intel is holding back WinXP 64 bit so that AMD doesn't get a further advantage in the market... bastards...

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campusjunk

Nov 10 2004, 03:02 AM

QUOTE(finaldesign @ Nov 5 2004, 12:07 PM)

some time ago I'we found homemovie on net, about amd & pentium processors. they take down amd's fan while playing Unreal, and take down pentium's fan while playing Unreal too. So, what do you think what came up? AMD's screen just scrambled, and blue screen show up few secs after fan was removed from processor, and white smoke rised from it.. And pentium processor? he just continue it's work with Unreal, with just few framerates less....
So, when you choose your processor, think twice.

Before 3-4 years, i had an old pentium 200MMX. I left it one night to rune some test's all night long.. in the morning all was little slowed down, and when i open tower chasis, found that cpu cooler/fan is dead - and cpu still working - more than 7-8 hours without pauses at maximum overload.
So, agan, when you choose your cpu, think twice.

And if you choose amd, make damn shure you can cool it right and safe. But if you get pentium, prepare for paying for it ofcourse...

this is prolly tested from the older cpu's though. The amd thunderbird series runns really hot, but the xp's are not quite as hot, and im pretty sure the 64-bit chips even run cooler. And I think the newer intell's chips will fry now adays too if you take the fan and junk off. That particular intel chip that you saw in the home video was prolly the initial petium 4's (i think) that had (or still have, cant remember) a thing where if it got too hot it would just turn down the clock speed. This was great and all but what if it turned it down when you had the fan and heat sink hooked up. It would cause poor performance.

I know that my computer, amd XP 2100+ hasnt had any cooling problems. I even accedentally unhooked the fan and it stayed like that for 2 days.. including all night. And nothing is wrong with it.

And if your worried about your fan crappin out and then your system fry'n, most motherboards, now adays, monitor that stuff and when it gets too hot, the mobo shuts down.

So after all that, I choose AMD. For better performance, and price.

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alperuzi

Nov 20 2004, 03:32 AM

QUOTE(gta @ Nov 19 2004, 06:20 PM)

But the hard-wired virus protection will only be usable on PCs running Windows XP Service Pack 2, due for release in the second half of this year.”

Yes, its a great innovation from AMD! Go to Control panel -> Sytem -> Advanced -> Performance Settings -> Data Execution Prevention to check it out if you have SP2 installed, if you don't have an A64 cpu then it will say that your cpu doesn't support it on hardware but you can run it on software.

And to all those going on about AMD's overheating. The new Intel Socket T cpu's have been confirmed by major hardware sites to be running hotter than AMD cpus. Intel is also going to launch dual core processors soon so it will have serious heat issues coming up.

Anyways, if you get a good, big heatsink, apply good quality thermal paste properly and use a good quality fan, you won't EVER have heating issues. The lifetime of such a setup without cleaning would be minimum 2-3 years.

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gta

Nov 19 2004, 11:20 PM

Hey guys i just read about this at: http://www.vnunet.com/news/1153631



“AMD has launched a new 32/64-bit processor designed with hardware-level antivirus protection. Launched at CeBIT in Hanover, the AMD Athlon 64 FX53 2.4GHz will run on 32-bit or 64-bit software.

It features an antivirus system designed to block activation of executable malware by marking all memory with page tables and making it non-executable. Any attempt to run an executable outside this is immediately blocked, the chip firm claimed.

But the hard-wired virus protection will only be usable on PCs running Windows XP Service Pack 2, due for release in the second half of this year.”

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faceofdie

Nov 16 2004, 08:18 PM

Best CPU Is Intel

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Galahad

Nov 11 2004, 12:36 AM

Prices is SCG are about... well, I don't actualy know what prices look like around, but here are some samples:

Intel® P4 - 3,0E GHz HT FSB800MHz, 1MB Socket LGA 775 BOX = 180€
CPU AMD Athlon-XP Barton 2600+ Socket A BOX = 96€
DDR400 - 512MB PC3200 Kingston CL 2.5 = 91€
80GB "Maxtor" DiamondMaxPlus9 ATA133 8MB Cache 7200rpm = 56€

and so on... How about Cro? We anywhere close with prices?

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melkonianarg

Nov 10 2004, 06:14 PM

Yeh, i have heard that AMD's heat up like nohing else but the power is so immensre it is worth getting a couplegood fans...

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