kvarnerexpress
Mar 3 2006, 09:35 PM
Speed is certainly one of the most important factors when it comes to making a successful web site. These days’ people have high expectations, they expect a web site to load as fast as an application on their operating system, and therefore even a few seconds of waiting can frustrate them or leave altogether. A good website should take about 8-12 seconds (for a 56K) to load. The website owner is going to have to decide how fast its pages are going to be, for example for a multimedia or a flash site they can afford to be a bit slower than others provided that the users know the nature of the site. If you're curious as to how fast you're website is here are two websites that checks your speed: http://www.vertain.com/?ssthttp://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/Ways to speed up your website HTML issues: - Use CSS where possible: Because pages with stylesheets load faster than those web sites designed with font tags and tables, and also it's much faster and easier to make changes. (Some resources on CSS – http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp, http://www.websitetips.com/css/, and http://www.glish.com/css/)- Stay clear of nested tables: Nested tables are basically tables within tables, but too many of theses can really slow down the browser. When a page loads the browser starts from the top and goes down in a consecutive manner, with nested tables it has to find the end of the table before it can display the entire thing. - Specifying height and width: For tables and images it's a good idea to specify their height and width, as it helps out the browser and therefore speeds up the process.
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master_bacarra
Mar 3 2006, 11:36 PM
QUOTE(kvarnerexpress @ Mar 4 2006, 05:35 AM)  A good website should take about 8-12 seconds (for a 56K) to load. The website owner is going to have to decide how fast its pages are going to be, for example for a multimedia or a flash site they can afford to be a bit slower than others provided that the users know the nature of the site.
i've checken the first one of the links. it said that my website loaded in aroung 1.something seconds. looking at your definition of a good website being loaded, does it make my website look good or bad? QUOTE(kvarnerexpress @ Mar 4 2006, 05:35 AM)  - Stay clear of nested tables: Nested tables are basically tables within tables, but too many of theses can really slow down the browser. When a page loads the browser starts from the top and goes down in a consecutive manner, with nested tables it has to find the end of the table before it can display the entire thing.
- Specifying height and width: For tables and images it's a good idea to specify their height and width, as it helps out the browser and therefore speeds up the process.
my webpage contains nested tables at level 2 meaning there are only two tables one is nested inside the other. but my page is loading quite well. although i don't specify the height and width of some of the images. tsk.
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Lozbo
Mar 4 2006, 01:05 AM
I believe that if the deffinition given for 8 to 12 seconds, one dot something is outsandingly good for the average speed time, I dont think it makes your website look bad, I dont even know why would you ask such thing... Anyway tables are necessary, but only for tabular data, like an ordered list of items with more than one field. But as of tables for design or layout, the main problem with them is that they are not as accessible (for the visually impaired mainly) as a pure xhtml / css driven layout, and besides you can totally upgrade your website design very quickly withouth touching the xhtml documents... And mbacarra, could you post a link to your site?
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tuyetmy
Mar 4 2006, 02:49 AM
I did the test on both links, and the second one was more detailed, and I didn't realized how long it toke my page to upload, since my whole layout is pictures, that are good quality, which is larger. Toke for dial up (56k), about 68 seconds to load. Damnn, that's real slow!  But with my internet, the first link said it takes 2 seconds... but I think that's only my connection. Well thanks for the tip, well now I'm going to optimize more.
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rvalkass
Mar 4 2006, 08:57 AM
Some useful little tools, great finds kvarnerexpress. Using the first one, the main page of my site takes about half a second to load. The second tool gives more information and useful tips and such. Justa few more tips to speed your site up: - Reuse images and make them as small as possible
- In forums and other scripts turn on the GZip compression
- Don't use multiple external files of the same type. E.g. combine all your CSS into one document.
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Tyssen
Mar 4 2006, 12:29 PM
QUOTE(kvarnerexpress @ Mar 4 2006, 07:35 AM)  If you've got the WebDev extension for Firefox you can get to this under the Tools menu.
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Chez
Mar 10 2006, 06:14 AM
Wow, cool, thanks for the links! Even though my most detailed and complicated site clocks in at a mere 4.79 seconds, I'm still going to smack it around til I get 2.00
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Dragonfly
Mar 10 2006, 08:22 AM
Very useful tips on making websites load faster. The problem is images. If I want to make it looks good it should retain the maximum colors which give clarity to the images but just for the sake of loading faster if I reduce the picture quality clarity is being sacrificed. I'm still thinking if there is another way to implement this. Because my site needs many images in the homepage itself. And for CSS, what rvalkass said is very useful. Putting all the CSS in one file. I used to have different css for different pages. Nice tip.
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Saint_Michael
Mar 13 2006, 03:53 PM
ok that is odd i tried both of them gfxtrap is clocked at 3 seconds the other is clocked at 58 seconds (56k) which one is right? But to comment of external css files, I find it more convient to use more then one external sheet, only for a few reasons. using css sheet for layout purposes and using the other one for content purposes. it also gives a little breathing room to locate the error your trying to find. But of course in order to use more then one external style sheet you have to use the correct coding as well, so css can lag if you don't use the right coding.
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jmb2006
Mar 18 2006, 04:16 PM
well you may or may not know this but say you have a head banner at the top of your site and is what 700kb in size, that will take a while to load especially on 56k dial-up, well in cases like this all you need to do is open up the banner in MSPaint then save it then exit paint, after that your banner should still be the same quality but now only around 200kb, works for me 80% of the time, if your going to do this make a backup of the image first otherwise you MIGHT end up ruining your banners quality forever unless you have the PSD saved
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moldboy
Apr 9 2006, 07:18 PM
QUOTE the vast majority of icons, buttons etc on the web still use GIF format so I find it unusual that someone would recommend not using it. In fact the buttons on this very forum are .gif. Also someone said that with a flash site it can load a little slower, true but still try to keep the load time under 30 seconds, trust me I'm on dialup, I know flash sites look good, but they are very, very, very annoying. Especialy when the flash is used for something that could be done with CSS, like color changing text, on mouseover. One more tip, try to avoid Java, and PDF both take time to load, and can serously slow down a browser/computer.
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jlhaslip
Apr 3 2006, 01:50 PM
I just ran this site: http://www.jlhaslip.trap17.com/template/index.php through both of them and scored .59 seconds on the first check and 1.77 seconds @ 56k on the second link (.44 sec @ T1), so I'm happy with that. Of course, it is a bare working template with no graphics, so I expected it to to good.
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Tyssen
Apr 3 2006, 12:21 PM
QUOTE(antwill @ Apr 3 2006, 08:48 PM)  I am not sure whether or not Dreamweaver allows you to do this but i definatly know Frontpage can do this.
There are free online tools that can do it for you too - don't need to buy software.
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antwill
Apr 3 2006, 10:48 AM
Wow thanks for posting all this, it is very, very helpfull especially since i am developing a website and the amount of graphics i am thinking of using may limit the people that can view my site. So i am very glad that you have gone to the trouble and posted this precious information. But an interesting feature of Microsoft Frontpage 2003 is that it can tell you how long your page will take to load and for what speed internet connection. I am not sure whether or not Dreamweaver allows you to do this but i definatly know Frontpage can do this.
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Tyssen
Apr 2 2006, 03:10 AM
QUOTE(WindAndWater @ Apr 2 2006, 01:01 PM)  First, it only supports a 256 color palette, which means if you want to post something like a photograph, or indeed anything outside of those 256 colors, it has to try to compensate with dithering.
Well obviously if you're talking about a photograph you're not even going to be considering a GIF in the first place. But the vast majority of icons, buttons etc on the web still use GIF format so I find it unusual that someone would recommend not using it.
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