Basic Ways To Speed Up Your Web Site

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Actually tables are making a slight comeback, especially when displaying data from a MySQL table and what not, but in general design sure there is no need for the use of tables.
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Basic Ways To Speed Up Your Web Site

kvarnerexpress
Speed is certainly one of the most important factors when it comes to making a successful web site. These days’ people have high expectations, they expect a web site to load as fast as an application on their operating system, and therefore even a few seconds of waiting can frustrate them or leave altogether.

A good website should take about 8-12 seconds (for a 56K) to load. The website owner is going to have to decide how fast its pages are going to be, for example for a multimedia or a flash site they can afford to be a bit slower than others provided that the users know the nature of the site.

If you're curious as to how fast you're website is here are two websites that checks your speed:

http://www.vertain.com/?sst
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/

Ways to speed up your website

HTML issues:

- Use CSS where possible: Because pages with stylesheets load faster than those web sites designed with font tags and tables, and also it's much faster and easier to make changes. (Some resources on CSS – http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp, http://www.websitetips.com/css/, and http://www.glish.com/css/)

- Stay clear of nested tables: Nested tables are basically tables within tables, but too many of theses can really slow down the browser. When a page loads the browser starts from the top and goes down in a consecutive manner, with nested tables it has to find the end of the table before it can display the entire thing.

- Specifying height and width: For tables and images it's a good idea to specify their height and width, as it helps out the browser and therefore speeds up the process.

 

 

 


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master_bacarra
QUOTE(kvarnerexpress @ Mar 4 2006, 05:35 AM) *

A good website should take about 8-12 seconds (for a 56K) to load. The website owner is going to have to decide how fast its pages are going to be, for example for a multimedia or a flash site they can afford to be a bit slower than others provided that the users know the nature of the site.

i've checken the first one of the links. it said that my website loaded in aroung 1.something seconds. looking at your definition of a good website being loaded, does it make my website look good or bad?

QUOTE(kvarnerexpress @ Mar 4 2006, 05:35 AM) *

- Stay clear of nested tables: Nested tables are basically tables within tables, but too many of theses can really slow down the browser. When a page loads the browser starts from the top and goes down in a consecutive manner, with nested tables it has to find the end of the table before it can display the entire thing.

- Specifying height and width: For tables and images it's a good idea to specify their height and width, as it helps out the browser and therefore speeds up the process.

my webpage contains nested tables at level 2 meaning there are only two tables one is nested inside the other. but my page is loading quite well. although i don't specify the height and width of some of the images. tsk.

 

 

 


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Lozbo
I believe that if the deffinition given for 8 to 12 seconds, one dot something is outsandingly good for the average speed time, I dont think it makes your website look bad, I dont even know why would you ask such thing...

Anyway tables are necessary, but only for tabular data, like an ordered list of items with more than one field.

But as of tables for design or layout, the main problem with them is that they are not as accessible (for the visually impaired mainly) as a pure xhtml / css driven layout, and besides you can totally upgrade your website design very quickly withouth touching the xhtml documents...

And mbacarra, could you post a link to your site?

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tuyetmy
I did the test on both links, and the second one was more detailed, and I didn't realized how long it toke my page to upload, since my whole layout is pictures, that are good quality, which is larger. Toke for dial up (56k), about 68 seconds to load. Damnn, that's real slow! blink.gif But with my internet, the first link said it takes 2 seconds... but I think that's only my connection. Well thanks for the tip, well now I'm going to optimize more. smile.gif

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rvalkass
Some useful little tools, great finds kvarnerexpress. Using the first one, the main page of my site takes about half a second to load. The second tool gives more information and useful tips and such. Justa few more tips to speed your site up:
  • Reuse images and make them as small as possible
  • In forums and other scripts turn on the GZip compression
  • Don't use multiple external files of the same type. E.g. combine all your CSS into one document.

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Tyssen
QUOTE(kvarnerexpress @ Mar 4 2006, 07:35 AM) *

If you've got the WebDev extension for Firefox you can get to this under the Tools menu.

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Chez
Wow, cool, thanks for the links! Even though my most detailed and complicated site clocks in at a mere 4.79 seconds, I'm still going to smack it around til I get 2.00 biggrin.gif

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Dragonfly
Very useful tips on making websites load faster. The problem is images. If I want to make it looks good it should retain the maximum colors which give clarity to the images but just for the sake of loading faster if I reduce the picture quality clarity is being sacrificed.

I'm still thinking if there is another way to implement this. Because my site needs many images in the homepage itself.

And for CSS, what rvalkass said is very useful. Putting all the CSS in one file. I used to have different css for different pages. Nice tip.

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Saint_Michael
ok that is odd i tried both of them gfxtrap is clocked at 3 seconds the other is clocked at 58 seconds (56k) which one is right?

But to comment of external css files, I find it more convient to use more then one external sheet, only for a few reasons. using css sheet for layout purposes and using the other one for content purposes. it also gives a little breathing room to locate the error your trying to find.

But of course in order to use more then one external style sheet you have to use the correct coding as well, so css can lag if you don't use the right coding.

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jmb2006
well you may or may not know this but say you have a head banner at the top of your site and is what 700kb in size, that will take a while to load especially on 56k dial-up, well in cases like this all you need to do is open up the banner in MSPaint then save it then exit paint, after that your banner should still be the same quality but now only around 200kb, works for me 80% of the time, if your going to do this make a backup of the image first otherwise you MIGHT end up ruining your banners quality forever unless you have the PSD saved smile.gif

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Saint_Michael
Actually tables are making a slight comeback, especially when displaying data from a MySQL table and what not, but in general design sure there is no need for the use of tables.

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jlhaslip
QUOTE(jrankin3 @ Aug 21 2008, 10:04 AM) *
I was looking at the first post, and wondering, "Where would it be useful to nest tables?" I've personally never seen a website that nested tables.


Nested Tables are old school Web Design. Tables should not be used for the structure of a page anymore. CSS is the Future of Web Design.


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jrankin3
QUOTE(anwiii @ Aug 5 2008, 03:37 AM) *
can't believe nobody suggested pre loading your second level pages. takes up bandwidth....but if bandwidth isn't a problem, your pages have the capability of popping up instantaneously.

speeding up a web pages load time is still very important since i believe most people still use dialup and visitors will just click the X to exit out of a slow loading web page


If your second level pages are rather big, IMO, it isn't worth it, because your bandwidth would get used rather quickly.

I was looking at the first post, and wondering, "Where would it be useful to nest tables?" I've personally never seen a website that nested tables.

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anwiii
can't believe nobody suggested pre loading your second level pages. takes up bandwidth....but if bandwidth isn't a problem, your pages have the capability of popping up instantaneously.

speeding up a web pages load time is still very important since i believe most people still use dialup and visitors will just click the X to exit out of a slow loading web page

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williamm
There are some basic ways that i have learned in the past to speed up your site. if you have graphics on your site use a program like photoshop to size them down. and bring the resolution down to about 72. Makes it where the site dont take ages to load up. Keep everything organized in the coding. Messy coding leave trails off to something that isnt there and takes that time to look for it. Orgainze your folders. make sure everything is neat and in order in names. No music its annoying and takes alot of time loading it on the server. NO GAMES. that takes up alot of bandwith on the servers there for slows your site down. I see alot of people asking how to put games on their site. you dont need them they are jsut a waste of space. You need information, small graphics. o and dont use images and backgrounds for site you have a desktop on your computer for that no need for it. Take this from a web designer its annoying rebuilding sites for people that have that crap on there.

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