I think we are talking about two different things because you say you don't believe in astrology, but surely some of it is true. Not saying I believe in star signs etc, but there is some patterns in the universe that occur in which we cannot explain. Quantem Physics I know little about so I can't go into details but someone please explain to me how all the pyramids, stonehenge etc are all in line with the key points of the stars etc. spooky

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Astrology, look it up in the dictionary... I'm pretty sure it is something along the lines of this.

A quick pick me up and/or source of general gossip for women between the ages of 14 and 40.

Really there is literally no evidence supporting these immenesely vague magazine columns that tell me I may have some kind of financial problem within the next 49-153 weeks.


I hate you astrology.

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Many of the descriptions of the zodiac signs are vague to the point where they can apply to anyone. So when you read one, you think "yeah, that kind of does sound like me." I find that the descriptions of my type hit my personality about 50/50; some of what it says is true, but other parts are so off. I like reading my horoscope for fun, and I think many of the times the advice they give is good for anyone since it's stuff like "don't spend too much money" or "take some time for your friends." I think that as long as you take it lightly, astrology is fun and entertaining, but like most things, should not be followed without discretion and common sense.

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well, i don't believe in the general mumbo jumbo that you can find in local newspapers. if they were true then all signs would be living the same life and we all know that ain't happening

on the other hand, to get information from the more experienced astrologers that can do a reading on specific information about you, i DO believe in.

i've always been facsinated by astrology but never really got in to it much. just in general and i have to say from what i have seen and learned, there is truth to it. at the same time, there is fiction to it as well. i don't think this science has been perfected at all.

with that said.....it's documented proof that when the moon aligns to be full, there are more police calls than normal. with that information alone we can assume with little doubt that the moon affects people in different ways depending on how the moon is aligned(full or not). if the moon can affect people, why can't planets and stars?
does our own planet affect us when it's aligned a certain way?(day or night).

now i have read about who i am in general from some good resources on astrology. i'm a pisces and the information given was about 75% acurate. i then read the other signs in who they generally are and i have to say that the percentage that was me doesn't come close to what i read about with my own sign. is that just a coincedence to the non believers?

do your research before you post to this topic rather than stating a belief without any knowledge or facts to back it up and because this science is far from being mastered, any post will always ust be an opinion

 

 

 

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It never ceesed to surprise me how people can believe in this.
Just think about it... What it's more likely to influence your character? Your genes, your parents taking care of you when you were little, your first friends and so on.... or just how some planets were aligned?

And there is also that thing, like , if you are born on 24 of the month or so... If you were born 4 days earlier your personality would be totally different? I don't think so. It can't depend on that.

But there will always be people eager to believe stuff without actual proofs. That's why we had tones of Greek gods, Roman gods, people going to crucades and so on. Poor mankind.

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i think all those things can influence anyone. wat's your point? there are a lot of things in this world and universe that can influence us including the other things that you may not believe in just like past lives, angels, spirit guides, friends or family that have already past on, etc...

when you ask what is more likely, then what you are really saying is that you have no beliefs or faith in anything you don't see or open yourself up to feel. there's more out there than anybody can possibly imagine so to discredit anything you don't see or open yourself up to feel is being completely and utterly subjective with no openess to the possibilities.

if that was the case, heck....the world should still be flat bud.

i don't know the exact definition of astrology, but to me, astrology is somewhat of a strong belief or religion. it could also be considered a science. the science behind astrology basically affects and influences nature that surounds us. human beings are only 1 part of nature as astrolgy will affect more than human beings. but we as hman beings are fascinated with the unknown and how it affects us directly which is why there are horoscopes and signs associated with it.

since you brought up religion and gods, yes, i do believe a lot of people go out of their way to believe in something that might not even exist. to them, it gives meaning to their lives where otherwise, they would have none.

as far as astrology, i don't think it just has to do with someone's personality but someone's nature in general which would also have to do with some of their own purposes in life that not even genes or the way you were raised by family or friends can control. genes and family influence will in fct never control our nature. i was one of 3 sibblings and we all turned out different and lead very very different lives. babe ruth didn't hit home runs because of family influence or his genes. it was in his nature.

now my question to you is, what influences someone's nature? by nature i mean what they were born with in regards to their own gifts and strengths? personally, i feel it has somewhat to do with higher power and astrology can in some senses be a guide to your nature and gifts and strengths and weaknesses. just because it's been tapped in to a long time ago doesn't however mean it's been perfected.

but be certain of at least one thing without calling it astrology. how planets, stars, moons, and everything else in general align in way WILL influence nature in general. i'm sure you can't discredit that so what makes you think these things cannot influence humans which are still a part of nature?

me personally, astrology and how it influences nature and people is very very likely, but i also believe a higher power is very likely too. i believe in reincarnation and i believe that everyone is born with a purpose in life that is pre determined before your even born. i believe in all that so call me crazy and wacky, but i know there will always be more out there that cannot be proven until one experiences some of those things for there own selves

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You got me a bit wrong (and being a bit rude in the process, too).
It's not the fact that I'm not opened and I don't listen to different theories and ways to explain life. It's just that for some things proofs exist, for some things they don't. I don't have any reason to believe in astrology without any actual proof more than I would have to believe there is an invisible pink unicorn in front of me right now (to quote a famous example).


Some people can believe in things because it sounds to them right, it's a nice story and so on. I choose not to.
I'm not trying to change your mind. I now I can't. I just wanted to post my opinion, to shout that there is another one quite tired of this things.

Let me end by a quick paragraph from wikipedia's page about Astrology.

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that's all good and i guess you have basis for your opinion there. still though, your research comes from other people who probably don't believe in god either. i'm in the u.s. and a big majority of the people living here believe in "god". sp when you ask the question what is more likey.....the belief of the minority or the majority, what is the more likely belief. i know astrology and god are two diffferent things but i do believe astrology is connected to the unknown and to the energy that surrounds us all. scientists will only believe in what can be proven. what about the POSSIBILITY of something that MIGHT be true though because it can't be disproven?

you can't change my mind....i don't think anyone can do that but i will always incorporate all beliefs into my own while seperating what i think is b.s. while always being open to the possibilities

for instance. i was raised christian. didn't really question what i learned in church until i was a teenager. then i told my mom how can i believe in something that i don't see or feel? later, i changed my belief in the possibility and to this day, once in a blue moon i will pray to the god i was brought up knowing. why take a chance in not believing in something that might actually exist?

another instance is i was always fascinated by the unknown. i always believed in spirts and ghosts and reincarnation and such but my beliefs were never validated with hard evidence until recently. by evidence, i mean something i can share with others rather than tell some freaky stories that have actually happened to me that make no common sense except for believing in something others have tried to discredit since man's birth.

so after capturing hard proof on something that validated my belief, i am glad i am open to the possibilities and i am glad cannot be labeled someone who believes a pink unicorn is right in front of me as i am typing right now.

one thing about life bud, it has a lot more meaning behind it than just science to prove or disprove theories

i do agree with you on one thing....on only SOME things proofs exists

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I promised myself after last post I'll stop arguing about the matter, it makes no difference anyway.
But just two quick things.

This is not a valid argument.
If the majority believes in some thing, it doesn't mean it is true. In medieval times, the majority thought the world was flat.

I asked in my first post what is most likely because in one way you have proofs, in one way you don't. It was a purely rhetorical question.


Exactly false. Prove that there is no invisible pink unicorn right in front of you. You can't? And that means that it might be true?


I want to say it's nothing personal. Please don't get offended by my views and my way of arguing ideas. If you would meet me you'd see I'm a nice person and this way I'm arguing is actually not so cold and stuff face-to-face.
Cheers!

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oh believe me. i am not offended, i like to talk about the possibilities and debate them once in a while.

as far as the pink unicorn. well, i don't think i am crazy or nuts in believing this, but i do believe that there are other level and planes of existance than the one we normally see first hand in our every day lives. i also believe there are sometimes portals to these levels of existance and planes. i've known people who are not crazy and swear up and down they have seen fairies. there have been many theories on why people see things where other people dont. the possibilites to these theories hold some basis only because i am sure there are not just 3-4 dimentions. when we only use 2-10% of our brain, doesn't that say something to our own ignorance and show a little proof to the possibilities that are out there that we can't possibly comprehend right now? i use our brain as an example only because you want to use science and proof to explain your belief.

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