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lwolfe26
QUOTE(terminal2k @ Apr 26 2006, 08:11 PM) *

we have a similar thing in australia, a lot of people criticize our leader when for the first time in a long while we have paid off our countries debt and generally in better shape than we should be. also when we elected our leader it was a similar thing, there wasn't really any alternative presented by the opposing political parties, all their guys were useless


At least he paid down on your debt. Our debt ceiling has been raised a number of times and is nearly maxed out again.


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cangor
Seriously, why impeach bush. Seriously, I don't like him at all, but he's still better than kerry by far. Basically, the only reason to impeach bush would be because you don't like the war in iraq. I don't either. However, with oil quickly running out, declaring war on iraq might actually be protecting the economic interests of our country. Not that I agree with his methods, but you shouldn't just put down Bush for no reason.

Oh, and good for you, those of you who actually know WHY you believe what you do.

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elrohir
I don't think impeaching bush would have any effect on what people outside the US think of what your government is trying to do. Personally, I think that it all comes down to having too much power, and too much influence in the rest of the world. Some day, they are just going to have to realise that they are not the centre of the world - and I'm not saying that the US is the only country who need to take a step back, far from it.


Another thing that I find quite amusing is that in Norway, there are quite a lot of people from the US who come with the oil industry. Most of them go to the same school, the "International" school. I also attend this school, though I have lived in Norway for most of my life - we are considered permanent residents.

I notice a very distinct arrogance in a lot of the people from the US - I tend to think as it as pure naivety. They just don't realise that nobody gives a flying føkk about the US. Why the hell would they? It can be really annoying sometimes, especially when they don't even take the trouble to hide it. I still haven't decided whether that's actually trying to be rude, or whether they are just plain obnoxious.

Another thing is that they are always saying how things are so much smaller here - from shopping centres to roads. That takes it out of me. Nobody WANTS it big, especially when it has worked fine for as long as anybody remembers, which is more than can be said for other places.


The sad thing is, we are dependant on workers from elsewhere to keep our exports up, and without many of the foreign workers, most people here would be farmers. Personally, I'd love that, but it's not really likely that many other people share that opinion after having been snuggled against the lap of luxury for ages.

On the other hand, there is a lot going on that is unfair the other way. There has been explosive growth all over the region, mostly of houses, apartments and industrial stuff. Not many people like this "development", but there's not much anybody can do. So they blame it on "Americans". Ok, WTF? Much as life here has been influenced by the US, I don't see how they can attribute the destroying of nature to anybody but the person directly resposible - I guess they just haven't done their homework aren't sure who that person is.

So, if I was really extremist, I would go along and say "blow the US off the map!" but I'm not, so I say "ignore whatever the hell they are trying to do, unless it has a direct influence on you - and then start complaining".

 

 

 


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Kioku
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Our last president brought our debt down...


It's hilarious how you think the President affects it that much. It's mainly congress and ho the economy's doing. It's just more things to finger-point over.

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"But the war in Iraq isn't useless. We are freeing the Iraqi people. We are going to fight terrorism. This is not a useless war." But, accordingly to my knowledge, the news' knowledge, and the knowledge of a high percentage of people, the war is a lost cause.


People are simply tired of the loss of American lives. After you ruin a country's *BLEEP*, you have to help them rebuild. We've done that in the past and people didn't complain. Oh, well. Gassed kurd and people Saddam paid to blow themselves up in Israel say "What?".

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During Bush's presidency, there were many natural disasters; from Hurricane Katrina, to Hurricane Rita, to the destructive Hurricane Wilma, he has done nothing about these disasters. Yes, maybe he has "visited" the cities damaged, but what has he done? He is right now, wasting American money by fighting the useless war in Iraq.


It was mainly up to the LOCAL government and not the Federal government to handle the levis. If you're going to finger point, it's the guy talking about his "Chocolate Town". What an *BLEEP*.

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The war on terroism is a flat out lie. Is there is anyone here that can honestly say that one day we will get all the terroists. Come on now, as we are over there we make more and more terroists.


I suggest you get airdropped deep into Iran and try to negotiate with them. Don't, worry. The power of Walt Disney will protect you. Sprinkling fairy dust will make them stop their obsessed ways. Wait, it doesn't work like that... I know! What is "forcing them to stop if they want to kill you"? Back to the Kool-Aid stand for you.

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elrohir
Hope that you realise that you are going a little bit to the other side - neutrality is a skill we all need, I guess. About Iraq, I don't think that ANYBODY should START a war just for the hell of it. No matter how powerful they think they are. Or ARE, for that matter. But now that troops have succesfully destroyed the social structure, they might as well build a Disney World there - and why not put Wendey's on every block?

"The anti-bush federation" indeed.

Concerning the "National Debt" [of the US, of course], it has not just failed to go down during Bush's reign - it has existed since before the 1940's, and has not gone down since then, though it has had periods when it rose less. That is, of course, if you don't count the inflation that has been going on. If you count that, it went down by approximately USD 500 000 000 000 in the late 1940's and by approximately USD 100 000 000 000 in 2001-2, and that is all calculated in 2000's USD value. Now, compared to appriximately USD 8 644 457 540 944 (at the current USD value), they weren't really that influential. Not long ago they set the limit to 7 trillion, and once more it has been capped at 9 trillion. Makes you wonder how long it will take to hit 10 trillion, eh?

I seriously can't believe that anybody lends the US government money. Could somebody please explain this to me? And could somebody please explain what this B$ I just wrote while normal people are sleeping has to do with the topic? I sure can't!

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Kioku
I'm sure we'll eventually pay their country back in the next 5,000 years or so.

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elrohir
How, by killing them?? tongue.gif

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Kioku
That works for me.

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Sprnknwn
I don´t know if you should impeach them... and I don´t even know much about this process. What I see is that Bush is getting really boring... well, he was always bloody stupid but at least you could laugh of him, because almost every declaration was a bit surrealist. I suppose a lot of people from US voted him because he looks like a man in a crowd, like your neighbour (anyway I hope the north american intelligence level is far above this), someone which you can identify with. I know that iraquis and afghans never found it funny... but at least he was the joker of the world during some months. Now we hardly see him on TV (in Europe or at least in Spain) I suppose there are some more important news than his stupidities.

So I think he have to go, why would anyone want a dumb president and boring besides?

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runeps
Doesn't Impeach mean to bring charges to the president but if the president is impeached he will still be in office is the bad part until the end of his term

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