SystemWisdom
Jul 13 2005, 04:40 PM
Do You Know the Answer to this Ancient Riddle?QUOTE "The key to life and death is everywhere to be found, but if you do not find it in your own house, you will find it nowhere. Yet, it is before everyone's eyes; no one can live without it; everyone has used it. The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets. The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away. When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth. It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."
--------------------------------------------------------------- Please select your answer above! --------------------------------------------------------------- Although this Riddle is Ancient in Origins, the translation of this question was taken from The Alchemy Lab, though they provide no correct answer. I personally believe that any answer you choose is the most correct for you, and indicates your level of progression within the spiritual world. The link above leading to The Alchemy Lab contains the same Riddle, but with a Hint relating to the Emerald Tablet of the Egyptians! Also, for those who are interested in Alchemy and/or Metaphysics, here is a free Personal Alchemy Quiz which may help to explain your level of progression within the spiritual world. Note: Nicolas Flamel was a real person who lived during the 15th Century, and was accreddited with having created the Real Philosopher's Stone. He is not just a character from J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series books!
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xdani3l
Jul 13 2005, 04:43 PM
I guessed soul but what is the real answer?
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SystemWisdom
Jul 13 2005, 05:02 PM
QUOTE(SystemWisdom @ Jul 13 2005, 12:40 PM) I personally believe that any answer you choose is the most correct for you, and indicates your level of progression within the spiritual world. Basically, your answer could (should) change through time, and that change signifies your progression within the spiritual reality of the universe. Most importantly, you should choose that answer which YOU feel is most correct for you, and not be influenced by the choices of others. There is in the end however, 1 correct answer, and that, well, that is the Secret of Life! Isn't it? (It's not a big secret though, when you find the answer you will understand!) Remember: To be happy is to be successful in life! 
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Ryoma Taka
Jul 13 2005, 05:03 PM
I think its matter but its sounds weird when its next to all those choices there. But when it says 'the poor possess it more than the rich', I think its Love. The rich grows selfish, as everyone knows because in thoes little kid's movie the rich guy always seems decieving and evil. But the last few lines got me confused.... 
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maresan
Jul 13 2005, 05:10 PM
cmatcmextra
Jul 13 2005, 06:09 PM
QUOTE The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away. This makes me think it's love because the people who are learned are stereotyped into them only caring for their work and nothing else (thus showing showing no love for others) But that was the first thing that came answer that came to my head so I voted for that but if you think about it there are other things on the list which could well be the meaning. The meaning is not known and forever should be kept that way (unless you believe it's 52  )
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SystemWisdom
Jul 13 2005, 06:42 PM
All very good answers! And yes, all answers on the list could potentially fit the riddle.. In fact, when I first saw the riddle (without having a list of choices) I assumed it was referring to Fire! (which is an Alchemical Substance nonetheless!) But I should note that the answer IS known, and I shall post it here in time, but for now I am interested in seeing the opinions of others! (cmat, I think the answer you were thinking of is 42, from "The Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy" am I correct?)
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Cain
Jul 13 2005, 08:13 PM
I would have to say that it would be love for multiple reasons. My first point comes from the very beginning of the riddle. It states that this object, whatever it is, is the key to life. To my understanding and belief, birth and children should be a product of love and affection and a child cannot be conceived without it. (Strictly from an idealist point of view, I know perfectly well that a child can be produced from something as horrible as rape, but in an ideal situation, a child comes from love.) The riddle continues to say that if you cannot find this in your own home, then you shall find it nowhere. I feel that if you do not experience and receive love as a child or even as a young adult, it is difficult to both understand and distribute it to other people from yourself, because you have no understanding of experience with it. "...Children play with it in the streets." I understand this as growth and maturity in that as a child grows to a young adult, feelings, particularly love, become a very big and important part of his life. He begins experimenting (playing in the streets) with his own emotions and the emotions of others in an attempt to develop a strong relationship with someone. Where it says that the meek and uneducated esteem it highly and that the rich and learned throw it away I feel that the riddle is saying that because the learned have a different thought process and often wish to be in control of their lives, feelings become a very difficult issue for them. This is because feelings are difficult to control unlike the thought process and thus love becomes more of a hazard than a blessing to them. Finally, "When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth." This to me is a direct relation to love and its nature. Simply, when a person experiences rejection or a lack of love, love (among other feelings) begins to represent something that they do not like and therefore to prevent further possibility of loss of love, they choose not to love and bury it within themselves (similar to lying dormant in the bowels of the earth). I don't know though. These were just some of the connections that I saw, but I doubt any one answer is perfectly correct. This is very interesting though, to see other people's ideas and beliefs.
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xdistrict
Jul 14 2005, 12:46 AM
I have to agree with the answer of Love though some of the other answers may work. I won't repeat what other people have said (or try not to repeat) though I felt the same way about the riddle when reading over it and reading the comments previous to mine.
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ManOfSTEEL
Jul 14 2005, 01:16 AM
QUOTE "The key to life and death is everywhere to be found, but if you do not find it in your own house, you will find it nowhere. Yet, it is before everyone's eyes; no one can live without it; everyone has used it. The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets. The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away. When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth. It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."
I will bet for 'INNOCENT" for many reasons, being innocent can save life yet brings death to anyone. Child and poor posses this morethan the rich one. It says that only those who lack of knowledge and understanding has more of it that the rich. But the privileged and learned often throw it away. It says that when someone who's educate well, less posses this rather than those who lack of educations. 
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Nameless_
Nov 3 2009, 10:08 AM
Yeah... Like inverse_bloom, I nearly chose matter, but in the end I chose love... Let me tell you why... sentence by sentence... Let me get the quote first, so that it will be easier to cut open int bits for easier understanding. Here it is: QUOTE "The key to life and death is everywhere to be found, but if you do not find it in your own house, you will find it nowhere. Yet, it is before everyone's eyes; no one can live without it; everyone has used it. The poor usually possess more of it than the rich; children play with it in the streets. The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away. When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth. It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created." "But if you do not find it in your own house, you will find it nowhere." This would point to love. You can find matter in your house, and yet if you can't find it, then you will still be able to find it outside your house. And yet if you can't find love in your own house, then you won't find it anywhere else. Because everywhere you go, even if people love you, and even if you try to love people back, it will not be the same as loving people in your own house, because only them knows what you are really like deep inside... if you have a good family and parents, that is. "No one can live without it; everyone has used it."A mother will always love their child, no matter what. Even if you are aborted, a mother "should" have felt love for you and despair that she cannot have you. You won't be able to live without it, because if that was the case, then your mother wouldn't have gone to suffer and went through all the labour just to give birth to you and then not love you, right? The sacrifice of peace and no pain of the mother itself is love for you already. Everyone is born through their mother's pain and labour. Who would go through something like that for someone that you don't want and love? "The poor usually possess more of it than the rich"This doesn't have to be explained, I believe. The poor has nothing to treasure but love and bonds between themselves, the rich usually hoard all the gold and ignore everyone else. Steorotypically speaking, that is. "Children play with it in the streets"Remember the times where we played Mother and Father and Family? And Girlfriend and Boyfriend and all that? Hugging your mother's shirt or holding tightly on your Father as you rode on the streets above everyone else on the shoulders? That is what I mean. "The meek and uneducated esteem it highly, but the privileged and learned often throw it away."Again, same thing. The meek and uneducated won't have any self-esteem but for the love they recieve. The privileged and learned don't need that, they've got their skills and books and all that certificates and stuff. "When rejected, it lies dormant in the bowels of the earth."You know Mother Nature? That is what it means. When it is rejected, the love goes that into the ground. Mother Nature. We are nurtured by Mother Nature, it is what makes us possible. So therefore, if we do not give the Love that mother nature gave us, it will eventually be lost back into the "bowels of the earth". Last one: " It is the only thing from which the Philosopher's Stone can be prepared, and without it, no noble metal can ever be created."All craftsmen use love to make their artworks, and so does an alchemist. Without love, they won't have the time and patience to put their efforts into their works, and therefore, no art will ever be created, and therefore, no Philosopher's stone will ever be created as well... So, how is that? My deduction, of course...
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inverse_bloom
Nov 3 2009, 07:59 AM
I voted for matter but love was a close second for me. The thing that threw me off was the "kids play with it" line, which swayed me towards believing matter was a better fit rather than love. Interesting exercise.
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iGuest
Oct 31 2009, 02:59 AM
lovers love it, friends need it, relationships starts with it and life ends with it..It is __d_a__z. FILL IN THE BLANKS
-reply by redds
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iGuest
Feb 19 2008, 06:55 PM
Replying to SystemWisdomEarth! dirt! it's everywhere. As above so below (inner earth outer earth) from with in so with out. I can go foreever but I don't think anybody actually cares to hear the truth anymore, we are more curious of britney spears and American Idol than to hear what a homeless man has to say. We wrapped in a world of constant chaos in order to maintain the status quo but we are few who seek and know. Death is all around us every day and night. Seek the light and with the light comes the truth.. Conrad Garcia -reply by Conrad Garcia
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SystemWisdom
Jul 14 2005, 05:17 PM
@jzyehoshua: You posted just as soon as i did! Anyway, I read your post and I do agree Wisdom is just as likely an answer as those listed.. And from the answer I posted above (courtesy of the AlchemyLab), Wisdom is related to the ONE THING as Intuition and Clarity of Being. Very insightful answer and I am glad to see others share ideas not in the list!
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