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new-world-order
Finally at last some one has had the time to do prober reseach for us biggrin.gif thanks mate it looks intresting and check out all the links as well there is acualy alot of thingsgoing on pitty they havent been publised anought i might contact some of them and see if they need a more professional website cos there is some of the links the webys are atrosious lol keep up the good work smile.gif ps i found a jet engine kart lol check this out

http://www.lockandsafe.co.uk/jetkart.htm
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yeah it does look like a bus doesnt it i wonder if they could make a jeep like this and in stead of haveing the tank vertical behind the seats have it undernear the car but gaurded by a steel plate thanks very much if you find more info please tell us biggrin.gif

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brainless
I uppose it's not necessary to worry too much about the looks of the car during the development phase - once the core system works, it shouldn't be too hard to design another shell around it (look at conventional cars - they all work on very much the same kind of engine and there have been loads and loads of different shapes...)

new world order: I give a huge bonus for the idea of using a jet engine to power a kart but the problems of conventional cars remain: 1) Where to get oil? 2) Pollution...

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kawasu
dont they have cars pwoered by water? isnt that good enough? i think that a water powered car is dam amazing. electric cars are coming in aswell, in about 15 years i wouldn't be surpirsed if alot of people switched. oil prices are getting ridiculously high and ever increasing. people are going to think twice about what cars to buy now.

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brainless
kawasu: yes, those are also somewhat near mass production ... and yes, they are amazing but diversity should do the trick (what about combining the air-powered engine with a water-powered engine instead of a regular gasoline-powered one? that might be a good idea for the next step once people have switched away from gasoline...)

15 years might be a doable time to replace a large part of the cars used nowadays with non-/way less polluting cars but that's not fast enough, if you ask me. I'm not worrying about gas prices (the higher the better, that's what I think), I'm seriously worried about this planet's state. So many people produce so much waste in such a short time... sad.gif

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Cerebral Stasis
Kawasu, electric cars were around far before cars with fuel cells. The problem with cars "running on water" is that the conversion process uses a lot of energy, so the final output isn't efficient enough to rival a gasoline engine.

Now, an engine that runs on pressurized air is certainly possible, but the problem is that the compressed air in and of itself wouldn't be enough to run a car. The link that was mentioned is for a car that uses a hybrid of compressed air and fuel, but a purely compressed air model would be difficult to create, not to mention would be inefficient.

It's all about the efficiency, and the facts are that most ideas just don't have it.

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moldboy
I gues I jumped in on this oen a little late, but I just wanted to point out that Air Hog has been making kinds toys that run on air powered engines for quite some time now. I'm not to sure about the recompressing air part, but the actual engine works.

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Wolves
QUOTE(new-world-order @ Apr 17 2006, 06:13 PM) *

The Compresser would be charged by a giro system running off the crank shaft it would be geared to take in anogth energy to power the compresser as needed due to the fact it wouldnt have fuel and even if ti did have fuel what a difference it woulf make think of how much fuel wouldbe saved all you would need is a small generater which can take about 8 hours to run dry from about 3 litres of petrol dont crititise other peoples ideas unless you ahve a better solution you self and albus thanks it is a rather cool idea

besides there is an engine that runs on air as i have found out after googling for acouple hours ill post the blue prints for it and a pic of the engine
dont automaticly asume everything will fail put a bit off faith into things:D
Peace

aaron

That is basically free energy, which is impossible by today's standards. The energy to recompress the air will never be the same as needed to run the engine. It just would never work.


QUOTE(kawasu @ May 22 2006, 04:05 PM) *

dont they have cars pwoered by water? isnt that good enough? i think that a water powered car is dam amazing. electric cars are coming in aswell, in about 15 years i wouldn't be surpirsed if alot of people switched. oil prices are getting ridiculously high and ever increasing. people are going to think twice about what cars to buy now.

Ahh, I believe the thing you are reffering to is hydrogen powered cars. Hydrogen is explosively flammable, and is a great replacement for gas to run an engine. The area where water comes in, is the tailpipe of the car. The spent hydrogen fuel travels through the exhaust and once it meets air, it combines with the oxygen in the air to create water. H20 (water) is 2 hydrogen atoms and 1 oxygen atom.

 

 

 


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Cerebral Stasis
The problem is that since hydrogen is so flammable and is very difficult to store (both because it leaks through most materials and because it doesn't compres well), it is very dangerous as a fuel. Some fuel cells, however, can give off electricity rather than hydrogen (which would then need to be pumped into an engine, etc.). See here.

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moldboy
I'm not sure but I think you're all confused (regarding the hydrogen fuel) To the best of my knowledge there is no engin on the planet that runs directly on hydrogen, as it was mentioned hydrogen is extremly flamable and the combustion would be very dangerous. What they do do however is use hydrogen to generate electricty in the fuel cell, as mentioned in the previous articly then it is just a matter of an electric car. Wolves, where you say that hydrogen combines with oxygen in the air to produce water, that doesn't really happen all that well, if you were to leave a jar of hydrogen gas exposed to oxygen it wouldn't all turn to water (well it would over time), at least not at once, it could take many years. But in the fuel cell a cataylist (genearly platnium) speeds this reaction up many times over and the recombination of H+ and O- ions causes the release of electrons which are then captured.

Something to look at, I am looking at going to university in the fall, and one school sent a booklet that had the "Why we are special" apparently someone there had developed a technique of storing hydrogen embeded in solid carbon, or something of the sort, thus making it much safer to store and transport!

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new-world-order
well it looks like ive sparked a bit of a disscussion now smile.gif im am sorry i havent been talking recently i have had computer problems and couldnt get on so i hope we can keep at it now i am back smile.gif

the thig is i havent realy heard anything related to this lately but ill keep you posted any way


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