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Truefusion:
QUOTE @Zabb: It seems like you want me to do the work for you. Usually when people want proof, they get up and search for it. Google is just a click away [click]. But, if you go to church, you may find people telling their stories. Infact, asks the priests, most of them have their stories. If you think all are fake, then prove it. So we should all go to church to listen to the priests telling their stories? Are these the same priests who have been molesting children and just haven't been convicted of it? Oh right, they are exactly the people we should listen to to get our proof. But i'm sure you didnt mean THOSE priests, right? Good thing that we have religion, otherwise there would be a lot more 9 year old boys who were still virgins. And still, NO PROOF Truefusion: So we should all go to church to listen to the priests telling their stories? Are these the same priests who have been molesting children and just haven't been convicted of it? Oh right, they are exactly the people we should listen to to get our proof. But i'm sure you didnt mean THOSE priests, right? Good thing that we have religion, otherwise there would be a lot more 9 year old boys who were still virgins. And still, NO PROOF
I think the No proof was referring to our conversation .
still just telling me to go find the stories you have heard.
how ever u see it, better ot worse... the thing is, religion does exist. u cant help that, i mean if it never existed people might be thinking hey wouldnt it be good if we had religions so we could live better lifes? religions are just there, humans werent born scientific geniuses.. we needed to believe things came from someplace or something and i guess we wouldve been alot more believeable to such existences. it was enivitable. there are hundreds of religions, this just goes to show how humans generally thought back then.
anyway, getting to the point, i too would probably say the world would be better without religion. i myself arnt religious is anyway. my parents are buddhist, but i've grown up not believing in things which have scientic evidence.. just clicks in my head more. religious do cause feuds here and there but they also create a lot of happiness and joy at the same time. we cant just think about the negatives of religion.
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OK first off many people arnt even giving there opinion on the subject. They are just saying if they are religious and why its good or bad. I'm not asking if religion is bad or good im asking what do you think the world would be like. Here are some quotes from people here that i have got to say stuff too. QUOTE let's remember that the law was basically set around the 10 commandments. Well duh commen sence says all the stuff in those 10 commandments. QUOTE A fundamentalist government based around athiesm just wouldn't work in this day and age unless you use an underdeveloped country because like I said in a previous post - the modernn world is too spoiled for such an expiriment to go through. I'm not saying to stop it. I believe in freedom and that would be anti-freedom. I'm saying what if we woke up and no one was religions anymore what would it be like. QUOTE Yea but, alot of religions, true or not, keep there followers in line..chritianity for example, its got it clear in there that there are commandments or rules, keeps people in line, im sure most religions have that, and i know alot of wars start because of it but comeon we're human, we'd find other reasons to start wars. Good your half way there. What would we fight about? The whole point of the post is for you to tell us what you think the world would be like. QUOTE it was only a few hundred years ago that the romans thought of zues and other gods to be gods and now they are fairy tale jokes that no one worships.. millions of people worshiped these gods and now they're taught as a history lesson only. the simularitys are endless in all religions. believe in a "god" and do exactly as he says and you will go to a magical place otherwise you will go to another magical place thats really bad. Your 100% right. I have read numours articles about this and they predict that there will one of the three outcomes in years to come: 1. No religion 2. A single religion 3 Everyone will have there own form of belief QUOTE I've heard mad (large in amount) stories about rapists, killers, and whatnot that converted into a religion, and are now living peaceful lives, no longer hurting anyone, but helping everyone. I wonder what would happen if religion never existed; I can only guess from Biblical past-times: pure chaos. Your extremely ignorant. Before you post something like this look at the % of people who go back to jail. Also look at what theropists say about it is EXTREMELY rare to help a rapist. QUOTE So, don't trust everything you hear or read in the news. Yes, even the bible. QUOTE I myself, am not religious, because my parents are both different religions, and it was awkward for me to "choose" my religion. Why should you have to choose? oh yah, i forgot, in some religions you will go to hell if you don't believe. What a nice God that is. I'm not going to say what religion, but you know what ones are like that. QUOTE how ever u see it, better ot worse... the thing is, religion does exist. u cant help that, i mean if it never existed people might be thinking hey wouldnt it be good if we had religions so we could live better lifes? Do you honestly have to have a religion to tell you not to kill, steal, cheat on your wife? If so, you or the person who thinks this should get help. These are basic human beliefs. I went to a catholic school for over 5 years and i know that all of there beliefs are the same as most of the laws we have. QUOTE OK first off many people arnt even giving there opinion on the subject. They are just saying if they are religious and why its good or bad. I'm not asking if religion is bad or good im asking what do you think the world would be like. QUOTE Do you honestly have to have a religion to tell you not to kill, steal, cheat on your wife? If so, you or the person who thinks this should get help. These are basic human beliefs. I agree 100% I don't believe we need religion to follow common laws that can respected by all people of any faith. and despite the good that does come outta religion I think theres also alot of bad. if you add up the death tolls of wars and genocide caused by "god" it outwieghs any and all desease (mental or viral). QUOTE I'm not asking if religion is bad or good im asking what do you think the world would be like. Glad i was able to answer your question. QUOTE Your extremely ignorant. Before you post something like this look at the % of people who go back to jail. Also look at what theropists say about it is EXTREMELY rare to help a rapist. Ok, so therapits don't know how to make rapists stop raping. QUOTE Yes, even the bible. Did you know the latest prophecy from the Bible happened around 50 years ago? Did you know many scientific facts came about by testing what is written in the Bible? I'm pretty sure there's a lot of things you don't know about the Bible. So, i guess we're both "extremely ignorant". QUOTE oh yah, i forgot, in some religions you will go to hell if you don't believe. What a nice God that is. I'm not going to say what religion, but you know what ones are like that. Um, you seem to be accusing God for the wrong reasons. Many people are saved, whether they're a Jew, a Christian, a Catholic, a Muslim, and many others. Yes, even those that aren't in a religion. It all depends on whether or not they commit evil. QUOTE Do you honestly have to have a religion to tell you not to kill, steal, cheat on your wife? If so, you or the person who thinks this should get help. These are basic human beliefs. I went to a catholic school for over 5 years and i know that all of there beliefs are the same as most of the laws we have. Heh, now-a-days, they're considered "basic human beliefs". They weren't "basic human beliefs" back in the begining of Biblical times. Since laws of today basically came from religion, you no longer require religion to find out these "basic human beliefs". But, religion is a good way to remind you of these things. Life makes you forget many things. QUOTE if you add up the death tolls of wars and genocide caused by "god" it outwieghs any and all desease (mental or viral). You seem to be forgetting the genocides that happened outside of religion. Which outweighs all of that you mentioned.
i personally think it will be the best worl of all worlds *made no sence i know lol* but anyways, i think it would be great...no religion, no bibles, no bibles to supposably interpret gods world and tell people how to run their lives...
it would save tax payers tons of money so there wouldn't be people to get Under God and In God We Trust off of different things, we wouldn't have to worry about those mormans or other religions coming to our door saying "Join Our Religion!!" in sum, i think i would prefer this non-religious world over the verry religious world we have now. i dont care what anyone has to say about me and saying this kind of stuff... ' dont get me wrong, i do believe in god but i dont let the bible, church, and the pope run my life like many people do QUOTE This is where God comes in. Btw, what's the amount of this '%'? Why don't you look it up since you say God converts people. And anyway i thought he wasnt supposed to do that. He gives us free will i thought? If he makes us change then its not free will it becomes his will. QUOTE Did you know the latest prophecy from the Bible happened around 50 years ago? Did you know many scientific facts came about by testing what is written in the Bible? I'm pretty sure there's a lot of things you don't know about the Bible. So, i guess we're both "extremely ignorant". I'm pretty sure i responded to a comment that said do not believe EVERYTHING you hear in the news. I never said dont believe the bible at all. QUOTE Um, you seem to be accusing God for the wrong reasons. Many people are saved, whether they're a Jew, a Christian, a Catholic, a Muslim, and many others. Yes, even those that aren't in a religion. It all depends on whether or not they commit evil. What do you consider saved? When they believe what you believe? And what is evil? I'f im right its against Christian rules to cheat on your wife or get divorced? So when they do that are they considered evil? No never mind they just have to go to confession. Even if they murdered 100 poeple as long as they forgive them selves they can go to heaven. This makes no sence to me because if someone murdered my child i would never expect to see them in heaven. QUOTE Heh, now-a-days, they're considered "basic human beliefs". They weren't "basic human beliefs" back in the begining of Biblical times. Since laws of today basically came from religion, you no longer require religion to find out these "basic human beliefs". But, religion is a good way to remind you of these things. Life makes you forget many things. Well i have 2 responses to this. 1. This is why i expect no religion at sometime in history because there will be no need for one. 2. Read these QUOTE "I am the LORD your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of slavery..." "Thou shall have no other gods besides Me... Do not make a sculpted image or any likeness of what is in the heavens above..." "Thou shall not swear falsely by the name of the LORD..." "Remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy" "Thou shall honour your father and your mother..." "Thou shall not murder" "Thou shall not commit adultery." "Thou shall not steal." "Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" "Thou shall not covet your neighbor's house..." Can you actually forget any of those? The only ones you could MAYBE forget is number 4. Any other one if you have to be reminded i think you are actually mentaly hadicapped... seriously.
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