nitish
Aug 14 2008, 11:20 AM
I reinstall (restore) windows almost every 2-3 months. What about you??? Seeing the title some would say "I do it daily" and some others "How to reinstall?". Let's see the poll results. Linuxers, see you in other post. Reinstalling windows is a daily chore for the students studying computers. They have to switch a lot of softwares, compilers etc etc. Windows as we know, will not tolerate a whole lot of (Un)installations and will ultimately slow down the whole system. This is not the case with Linux. Just consider this, I installed Red Hat WS 3(the older version which was lurking around with me) a year ago, full installation (4GB). The boot time initially was terribly slow. Because by default Linux runs everything during startup, even the sendmail daemon(it takes around 10 seconds) which is not needed for normal use. Then I read articles about linux and disabled all those stuff. The change was just superb and still haven't reinstalled it. Back to windows.. I actually wanted to give you some tips on reinstalling windows. Especially the professionals, say web developers using dreamweaver, flash, local apache, php. They setup nice settings to suit there needs. After this why reinstall??? Forget those students, what if your system gets virus, ok you're using the anti*** but they don't always help. For example some days ago my system was hacked by some .scr scripts. The result, my whole folders in root of every drive(even C:) was hidden and also creating there respective blank folders(basically .scr extension with folder images). I knew it immediately because I always keep the settings "Show hidden files", "show system files", "show extension of known file types" checked. Amazingly the script took back its work after rebooting. But now I wasn't able to see hidden files and extension. It did all sorts of registry edits. I had to reinstall... Oops again off track, now back to the tips... Reinstalling Windows (The good way): First method:This one is a common one. You install some software like Norton Ghost and make up a backup of freshly installed system (Fresh windows with essential softwares installed) and burn it to dvd. Now whenever the system crashes you just restore it with dvd. Check those tons of articles for more info on this. Second method: I worked out this trick which I thought will never work. The basics are same you install fresh copy of windows with essential softwares like antivirus. Now you archive everything in your C: drive like .zip(it takes time) and either move the archive to another drive or burn it to dvd. NOw when odd thing happens you just pop in some live cd distros of linux which support the fat partition viewing and format the C: drive(you can use win cd's fdisk for formating) and restore it with the archive which you placed in other drive or dvd. Voila! Isn't that fantastic. It saves you money buying software like Norton Ghost. Any opinions, help request about this trick are welcome. If you don't want to reinstall windows there are some rollback softwares available which restore windows to previous state in case of power failure (hoping this is not your case) or other problems. There is also one software (anybody point out that please) which disregards any changes during a session including folders created or softwares installed. This one is very useful for internet cafes. That's enough from me. Now its your turn to tell everything you wanted to about this topic.
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Animator
Aug 14 2008, 11:50 AM
That's pretty cool. I've also used similar approaches for migrating Linux systems onto other hardware / multiple installs etc. One thing on the Windows front though... wouldn't it be smarter to make that zip from a LiveCD rather than from within Windows? I'm just thinking that if there's a system file there with no read access (can't imagine why for admin though)... by using a Live CD you'd be more likely to pick it up. Also, Linux (on Live CD) has more reliable backup commands in way of tar, dd etc.
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Saint_Michael
Aug 14 2008, 01:03 PM
I say this, if your reinstalling windows on a monthly basis you have some serious hardware issues because that is not necessary. As for a slow down issues, it is a matter of cleaning out the registry the hard way or getting a registry cleaner that works (glary utilities). Also it not just the software that causes slow downs it is the hardware as well and so replacing at the minimum, RAM, Processor, will help speed the computer up. Of course at the other end of things, replacing the hard drive and the motherboard will help increase the speed. However, I do understand that with the really old computers that a weekly to month reinstallation is necessary, either because the hardware cannot be replace or the operating systems are no longer supported.
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Erdemir
Aug 14 2008, 01:22 PM
I agree with you about Norton Ghost. If my system is not working properly, I don't need to reinstall windows. I was using Norton Ghost to backup whole disk. Now I am using Acronis True Image. Whey my system is down, I only copy important documents from disk c: to disk d:, and then bring back the backup file by Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image. Using this way is only 10 minutes or less. But installing a new windows takes 39 minutes and installing useful programs takes at least 20 minutes, and look, our one hour has already been spent. Using backup programs are advantage, I think.
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Nabb
Aug 14 2008, 01:23 PM
I only re-install Windows when a virus forces me to. Which is rarely. And by rarely, I mean never. ..does that one time count when I upgraded Vista to XP? edit) Oh yeah, I don't see the benefits of re-installing. If it's for speed, msconfig and remove unwanted programs. defrag and disk cleanup every now and then, and uninstall old unused programs..
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Pinkeboo
Aug 14 2008, 01:42 PM
I reinstall Windows when I have some troubles with virus. But now, I'm using Acronis TrueImage to backup my data, it's faster
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SaNJ
Aug 15 2008, 11:59 PM
Ya I keep reinstalling my windows .... the reasons are. --I m an computer engineering student ...so I keep experimenting with my machine --I keep installing and uninstalling various software now and then... --I keep more than one operating system on my machine like sometimes linux, or unix or 2000 server with sp2 always installed --Of-course speed and viruses are the other reasons So in a month or so I m left with no choice, but to reinstall windows..so thats my story
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nitish
Aug 17 2008, 08:44 AM
QUOTE(Saint_Michael @ Aug 14 2008, 06:33 PM)  I say this, if your reinstalling windows on a monthly basis you have some serious hardware issues because that is not necessary. As for a slow down issues, it is a matter of cleaning out the registry the hard way or getting a registry cleaner that works (glary utilities). Also it not just the software that causes slow downs it is the hardware as well and so replacing at the minimum, RAM, Processor, will help speed the computer up. I have something to tell in there. Once upon a time I was the person who installed a lot of softwares because I was getting lot of cds and dvds from magazine etc. Once you (un)install this much, a PIV-2.2 cannot handle it. I can tell.. - I have used all types of registry cleaners and especially Regtoy-X(freeware) which does extreme cleaning (Very Dangerous) and even Restructures the whole registry hive. Even after this I couldn't find any performance improvement. Also I am the person who considers services running, defragmentation very seriously. QUOTE One thing on the Windows front though... wouldn't it be smarter to make that zip from a LiveCD rather than from within Windows? Yes Animator you are abolutely correct, and thanks for pointing out. I didn't review my article. we have to copy(archive) the files too using another OS like SLAX(bootable cd), its really good. Ok now here I am with another method...
How many of you have another windows OS apart from XP (you can do it with only xp, but I fear it will create licensing issues). Suppose you have win98 and xp, you can install 98 on C: drive and Xp on D:. This can be life saving particularly if you have poor hardware. Here, basically you work on xp. You can install software for web development like dreamweaver, Nuweb, php, apache etc. Then you log on to 98 and copy paste the whole xp partiotion to another folder. Now you can work on xp any way you like, installing themes, meddle with registry, because if anything goes wrong you can log on to 9 8 and delete the xp partition and copy replace it with the copy you saved previously. Whats more.. like this you can have different versions like one xp for photo editing softwares one for browsing and one for....
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klusk
Aug 17 2008, 05:41 PM
i install windows once every two- three months...i don't install it just becaus i like doing so..actually i have to.. after probably two- three months, my system becomes slow and i start gettinge error messages for some corrupt or missing system files and some virus or trojan infects my system that's beyond repair,i just feel the need to install new windows.... i admit that i am not that good in maintaining my OS and i am not regular in doing system scans and registry clean ups.....i just prefer re-installing the whole thing again... and yes, the method i use...i just format the C drive and install in it.....i don't bother much about repairing the OS from the recovery CD ....
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xpress
Aug 18 2008, 10:23 AM
I usually reinstall windows everymonth. I do it for performance. I am using many programs to clean up my registry, disk, and for defragmentation. Even though they work for some extent, the system performance won't be as faster as fresh installation. Thats why i like to reinstall windows everymonth. And sometimes i need to do it for virus attacks also. Eventhough i am using a latest antivirus(free edition) and updating daily, some viruses are keep attacking. pchhhh  so fresh installation will be a best solution for me.
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Lightning73
Nov 7 2008, 06:02 AM
I reinstall it at least twice a year. Not on my PC but on my little brothers. He always does something to screw up his PC. The problem is, that every time he does so, it won't just Windows that I'll have to reinstall, but all other programs as well. Which takes me about a full day every time he screws his PC up.
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bk2070
Nov 6 2008, 09:01 PM
QUOTE(nitish @ Aug 14 2008, 07:20 AM)  I reinstall (restore) windows almost every 2-3 months. What about you??? Seeing the title some would say "I do it daily" and some others "How to reinstall?". Let's see the poll results. Linuxers, see you in other post.
Reinstalling windows is a daily chore for the students studying computers. They have to switch a lot of softwares, compilers etc etc. Windows as we know, will not tolerate a whole lot of (Un)installations and will ultimately slow down the whole system. This is not the case with Linux. Just consider this, I installed Red Hat WS 3(the older version which was lurking around with me) a year ago, full installation (4GB). The boot time initially was terribly slow. Because by default Linux runs everything during startup, even the sendmail daemon(it takes around 10 seconds) which is not needed for normal use. Then I read articles about linux and disabled all those stuff. The change was just superb and still haven't reinstalled it. Back to windows..
I actually wanted to give you some tips on reinstalling windows. Especially the professionals, say web developers using dreamweaver, flash, local apache, php. They setup nice settings to suit there needs. After this why reinstall??? Forget those students, what if your system gets virus, ok you're using the anti*** but they don't always help. For example some days ago my system was hacked by some .scr scripts. The result, my whole folders in root of every drive(even C:) was hidden and also creating there respective blank folders(basically .scr extension with folder images). I knew it immediately because I always keep the settings "Show hidden files", "show system files", "show extension of known file types" checked. Amazingly the script took back its work after rebooting. But now I wasn't able to see hidden files and extension. It did all sorts of registry edits. I had to reinstall... Oops again off track, now back to the tips...
Reinstalling Windows (The good way):
First method:This one is a common one. You install some software like Norton Ghost and make up a backup of freshly installed system (Fresh windows with essential softwares installed) and burn it to dvd. Now whenever the system crashes you just restore it with dvd. Check those tons of articles for more info on this.
Second method: I worked out this trick which I thought will never work. The basics are same you install fresh copy of windows with essential softwares like antivirus. Now you archive everything in your C: drive like .zip(it takes time) and either move the archive to another drive or burn it to dvd. NOw when odd thing happens you just pop in some live cd distros of linux which support the fat partition viewing and format the C: drive(you can use win cd's fdisk for formating) and restore it with the archive which you placed in other drive or dvd. Voila! Isn't that fantastic. It saves you money buying software like Norton Ghost. Any opinions, help request about this trick are welcome.
If you don't want to reinstall windows there are some rollback softwares available which restore windows to previous state in case of power failure (hoping this is not your case) or other problems. There is also one software (anybody point out that please) which disregards any changes during a session including folders created or softwares installed. This one is very useful for internet cafes.
That's enough from me. Now its your turn to tell everything you wanted to about this topic. I honestly can say that I have only reinstalled windows maybe once or twice before. It's just that I don't really get too many viruses on my computer, so reinstalling windows, in most cases, isn't really an option or something that I feel needs to be done. What I will say is that I think Windows is an awful OS. I have a mac at my sisters house, and it rules. It gets no viruses, has so many awesome little programs (Garage ban, photo booth, that it really puts Windows in a toilet. Plus, my sister has had it for a year or so now and it has had less problems then my Windows OS computer has had. If I had enough moola, I'd most likely go with a Mac </offtopic>
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EinReaper
Nov 6 2008, 07:41 PM
So we all agree that Windows needs to be reinstalled at some point; some people do it when they catch a virus, others (like me) when there's too much stuff on the hard drive to even consider cleaning it up. But sometime Windows just acts up for no reason and a reinstall in mandatory. This is because Windows is an expensive flawed product. I find Vista to be more reliable than XP even if most users don't like it. I got used to Vista and I only reinstalled it once since I bought my laptop (last year). I did it because, as I said, I had to much stuff on my 200Gb hard drive (I know it may not seem a lot to some of you, but I'm really messy at times) so I put in my recovery disk (which I unfortunately lost since then) and deleted everything. XP is al little more needy when it comes to stability; it may require third party software like System Mechanic or TuneUp Utilities to keep it going, otherwise it may kindly ask for a reinstall crashing like test dummies in concrete walls. When I had XP I reinstalled it every 3 months or so. Now with Vista I reinstalled only once six months ago. None of this options is in the poll so I choose not to vote.
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actuarymath
Nov 5 2008, 12:15 AM
nitish wrote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I reinstall (restore) windows almost every 2-3 months. What about you??? Seeing the title some would say "I do it daily" and some others "How to reinstall?". Let's see the poll results. Linuxers, see you in other post. Reinstalling windows is a daily chore for the students studying computers. They have to switch a lot of softwares, compilers etc etc. Windows as we know, will not tolerate a whole lot of (Un)installations and will ultimately slow down the whole system. This is not the case with Linux. Just consider this, I installed Red Hat WS 3(the older version which was lurking around with me) a year ago, full installation (4GB). The boot time initially was terribly slow. Because by default Linux runs everything during startup, even the sendmail daemon(it takes around 10 seconds) which is not needed for normal use. Then I read articles about linux and disabled all those stuff. The change was just superb and still haven't reinstalled it. Back to windows.. I actually wanted to give you some tips on reinstalling windows. Especially the professionals, say web developers using dreamweaver, flash, local apache, php. They setup nice settings to suit there needs. After this why reinstall??? Forget those students, what if your system gets virus, ok you're using the anti*** but they don't always help. For example some days ago my system was hacked by some .scr scripts. The result, my whole folders in root of every drive(even C:) was hidden and also creating there respective blank folders(basically .scr extension with folder images). I knew it immediately because I always keep the settings "Show hidden files", "show system files", "show extension of known file types" checked. Amazingly the script took back its work after rebooting. But now I wasn't able to see hidden files and extension. It did all sorts of registry edits. I had to reinstall... Oops again off track, now back to the tips... Reinstalling Windows (The good way): First method:This one is a common one. You install some software like Norton Ghost and make up a backup of freshly installed system (Fresh windows with essential softwares installed) and burn it to dvd. Now whenever the system crashes you just restore it with dvd. Check those tons of articles for more info on this. Second method: I worked out this trick which I thought will never work. The basics are same you install fresh copy of windows with essential softwares like antivirus. Now you archive everything in your C: drive like .zip(it takes time) and either move the archive to another drive or burn it to dvd. NOw when odd thing happens you just pop in some live cd distros of linux which support the fat partition viewing and format the C: drive(you can use win cd's fdisk for formating) and restore it with the archive which you placed in other drive or dvd. Voila! Isn't that fantastic. It saves you money buying software like Norton Ghost. Any opinions, help request about this trick are welcome. If you don't want to reinstall windows there are some rollback softwares available which restore windows to previous state in case of power failure (hoping this is not your case) or other problems. There is also one software (anybody point out that please) which disregards any changes during a session including folders created or softwares installed. This one is very useful for internet cafes. That's enough from me. Now its your turn to tell everything you wanted to about this topic. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for your information. I reinstall more than a year.
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Jezstarr
Nov 4 2008, 09:03 PM
The only time i re-install windows is when I'm upgrading or have a virus of some sort that just screws over my pc. But I have done it closely before but that was when I was getting a load of viruses, but other then that I would only really do it every two years about if nothing goes wrong. I too am using programs to clean my registry and speedup my pc so I don't really need to worry about my pc going slower.
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wondering if possible theres something i need to do,I am not to smart with computers s....
Windows Xp Freezes At Welcome Screen
(57) today i start my pc in windows xp and found that xp freezes at welcome screen. then i try to boot in
safe mode but the problem persisits then i again try in last good configuration setting but it
doesn't help so i hav to reinstall my xp plz any body hav solution for this so that i do not hav
to reinstall my xp for this problem as i get this problem oftenly. thanks....
Windows Won't Boot Up
Getting error message appears with hal.dll or ntosknl.exe no (12) Can anyone help with this issue? I have at least three machines at work that are currently booting
up to a blank screen with either hal.dll or ntosknl.exe missing error. The machines are running
Windowa 2000 pro. I have been able to get them back up and running, bu t I am a little concerned
that there maybe a virus. However, I have made sure my AntiVirus software has been updated and a
full scan has been run, and no virus has been detected. I have run spyware detecting software as
well, and nothing unusual seems to appear. The machines are running ok so far, but I am wor....
Windows Xp And Dos Multiboot
how?? (13) Question to you all, I have a computer running windows XP, now I want to add a "real" DOS
enviroment on the computer (not cmd or dosbox or something like that). So I thought dualboot will
do the trick, but the problem is, if I go on and install dos on my free harddisk, I will have a
problem cause it f*cks up my boot process and windows xp will not start anymore. That I dont want!
Anyone got an idea on how i can install dos so I can multiboot between windows xp and dos without
formatting my windows drive, install dos and then reinstall windows? Any help would be greatl....
Skinning Windows Xp
Do you know how to skin ? (7) Okay, I've heard alot about skinning Windows XP with programs made specially for skinning. But
these programs somehow lags my system and I'm not quite happy about it... Anyone knows how to
skin Windows XP without using using software like DesktopX or ThemeXP etc. ? Just skinning it
manually including icon sets too......
Windows XP Built in Applications ...
some of them! (2) Some of Windows XP Built in Applications: 1. sysedit.exe (System Configuration Editor ) 2.
perfmon.exe (System Monitor ) 3. eudcedit.exe (Private character editor) 4. drwtsn32.exe (Dr
Watson) 5. dxdiag.exe (DirectX diagnosis) 6. telnet.exe (Microsoft Telnet Client) 7. iexpress.exe
(IExpress Wizard - Create self-extracting / self-installing package) 8. mobsync.exe (Microsoft
Synchronization Manager) 9. cleanmgr.exe (Disk Cleanup) 10. odbcad32.exe (ODBC Data Source
Administrator) 11. packager.exe (Object Packager) 12. mplay32.exe (Windows Media Player 5.1) 13. wi....
Windows Xp Lite?
(18) I heard that in some other country for some reason came out with a windows xp lite. I think the
country was Australia, and the new version is suppose to have better spyware protection, virus and
IE protection and run faster and all that good stuff. If you know what im talking about or have any
other information please post it here.....
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