xpress
Oct 6 2008, 04:28 AM
Hmmm...Viruses are spreading at lightening speed. No technology in computer industry is developing at that pace. Even the security technologies itself. Hard to believe..but its a fact. Really a miracle... And none of the antivirus softwares are perfect.....If one could detect a virus, another couldn't, and vice-versa. And different companies gives different names to the same virus. What the hell is this? Antivirus companies are now focusing more on making profits than eliminating viruses. Even they may be happy with the spreading of thees viruses, without whom they don't exist  People like us, who have some computer knowledge are staying away from some viruses(at least). But what about other people? They don't know what happened to their system, if some virus attacked. They don't know how to get rid of that. And finally they have to spend some money to solve their problem. They are paying for someone else's evil happiness. Why should they? But the term virus is very popular today. Even people who don't know anything about virus, thinking that their system had infected by virus. The funny thing is, even if some hardware problem arises in their system, they think that its due to some virus. How sad? Can we do something? How do we educate these innocent people? Give your opinions......
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PilzzE
Oct 6 2008, 06:34 AM
Yeah I agree with you, sometimes I think some companies make virussen to sell theire product bether. Some ideas on how to educate people: - Make a simple leaflet/poster wich gives info about virussen and what to do with them. - Workshops on college/school where a teacher tells about virusses and anti-virus software. - Make a digital leaflet and mail it among friends, like a chain mail. (make shure it doesn't look like a spam mail or advertising mail). These are some simple ideas but may effective. But I think a long there will be computers in any form there will be virusses, because when a file of a piece of software becomes damaged due some reason there is a chance it behaves like a virus. (make your computer slow or somethin like that).
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A200
Oct 6 2008, 06:55 AM
I try to protect myself by not downloading illegal files and the sort, only downloading files from secure and safe websites. It also helps for browsers to have a little message that comes up reminding people about them and how to avoid them etc.
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varalu
Oct 6 2008, 05:38 PM
QUOTE(xpress @ Oct 6 2008, 09:58 AM)  Hmmm...Viruses are spreading at lightening speed. No technology in computer industry is developing at that pace. Even the security technologies itself. Hard to believe..but its a fact. Really a miracle... And none of the antivirus softwares are perfect.....If one could detect a virus, another couldn't, and vice-versa. And different companies gives different names to the same virus. What the hell is this? Antivirus companies are now focusing more on making profits than eliminating viruses. Even they may be happy with the spreading of thees viruses, without whom they don't exist  People like us, who have some computer knowledge are staying away from some viruses(at least). But what about other people? They don't know what happened to their system, if some virus attacked. They don't know how to get rid of that. And finally they have to spend some money to solve their problem. They are paying for someone else's evil happiness. Why should they? But the term virus is very popular today. Even people who don't know anything about virus, thinking that their system had infected by virus. The funny thing is, even if some hardware problem arises in their system, they think that its due to some virus. How sad? Can we do something? How do we educate these innocent people? Give your opinions...... Its tough to stop viruses. Because some are made and some come by mistake. So... its not easy to stop them. But its possible to be safe from them. Install a very good antivirus software and update it as frequently as possible with the the new virus definition database and keep your system secure.
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Lightning73
Oct 7 2008, 06:23 AM
I teached myself to see what's a virus and what not, I have to admit I download lots of illegal stuff, and I don't even run a Virus scanner because I know I'm not downloading any viruses. And like once in a month I run it, only to see that I still don't have any viruses. My advice is: Cut those people of the internet lol. Or have advertisements for them. Though most people won't read those. It's not like everyone wants to learn about viruses..
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xpress
Oct 7 2008, 07:29 AM
QUOTE(PilzzE @ Oct 6 2008, 12:04 PM)  - Workshops on college/school where a teacher tells about virusses and anti-virus software. - Make a digital leaflet and mail it among friends, like a chain mail. Nice ideas friend. Already I'm using chain mail. I like your workshop idea. QUOTE(varalu @ Oct 6 2008, 11:08 PM)  Its tough to stop viruses. Because some are made and some come by mistake. So... its not easy to stop them. But its possible to be safe from them.
Install a very good antivirus software and update it as frequently as possible with the the new virus definition database and keep your system secure. No. I don't want to stop viruses. Its impossible, I know. I just want to educate people about viruses. Its difficult to differentiate very good antivirus and bad antivirus. Everyone has its advantages and disadvantages. And most of the antiviruses are paid. Very few are free(with free daily updates). We have to choose from these free antiviruses. But they are not giving optimal protection. QUOTE(Lightning73 @ Oct 7 2008, 11:53 AM)  I teached myself to see what's a virus and what not, I have to admit I download lots of illegal stuff, and I don't even run a Virus scanner because I know I'm not downloading any viruses. And like once in a month I run it, only to see that I still don't have any viruses.
My advice is: Cut those people of the internet lol.
Or have advertisements for them. Though most people won't read those. It's not like everyone wants to learn about viruses.. Me too. There is no course available to teach about these viruses. Everybody is learning on their own. My humble request is, share your experiences and your tips on how to find viruses etc...And of course, we are not here to teach everyone. Just for those who are interested. I just want to make people aware of these viruses.
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klusk
Oct 8 2008, 04:44 PM
I think you don't need to teach people what are viruses...because guys who need to know about it are regular PC users, who of course know ..... yes,of course you can tell people the difference between virus, Trojan, spyware, malware etc...because that is something even regular PC users don't know ....but that's not important.... we need to tell people how to fight against it...what to do if their PC is infected...many people leave it on a stupid antivirus... and if it fails to remove the virus.. they just opt to reinstall the OS....which is not a good idea... You can of course remove the virus from your system someway or the other if you know that its present.... people just think it can't be removed...
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xpress
Oct 8 2008, 05:39 PM
QUOTE(klusk @ Oct 8 2008, 10:14 PM)  I think you don't need to teach people what are viruses...because guys who need to know about it are regular PC users, who of course know .....
yes,of course you can tell people the difference between virus, Trojan, spyware, malware etc...because that is something even regular PC users don't know ....but that's not important.... No, Most regular PC users doesn't know about viruses. Its my experience. Most of the people I know and my friends doesn't know anything about viruses. I had to assist them everytime they were infected. This is because, Viruses are just not spreading from internet. Now a days these are spreading from USB Pen drives, Memory cards, mobiles and CD's or DVD's. Most of them don't have access to internet. So they don't have any up-to-date antiviruses. And they don't know about viruses either. Only some people technical like us can see viruses because we know how a virus looks like(or a trojan) for example with fake extensions etc...Most people don't know this. For example, almost all my friend circle infected by a virus with fake extension with .avi. But actually its an executable. They didn't know this, and clicked to open video and their systems infected. It was infected through memory cards of their mobile. They had antiviruses, but not up-to-date. The virus is very powerful that, even though I cleaned it with up-to-date antvirus, their traces were still left with meaning less symbols in right click. Tried different antiviruses but none of them worked. Even after formatting and reinstalling Windows, their traces left again in other partitions. Finally we had to format the entire hard disk.....Thats why I want to educate people on how a virus looks like etc... I think telling people who don't have technical skill, about these trojans, dialers etc.. will confuse them. QUOTE we need to tell people how to fight against it...what to do if their PC is infected...many people leave it on a stupid antivirus...and if it fails to remove the virus.. they just opt to reinstall the OS....which is not a good idea... And finally you got my idea. What I wanted is that you said above. We have to tell them how to fight against viruses. And thanks for your interest.
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Evolix
Oct 18 2008, 05:34 PM
How about we develop our own virus-scanners? I know it will be tough work, but we will need excellent coders. Or, Microsoft/Apple/Linux should make a brand new OS which won't allow you to download these virus-makers. xD I wonder who actually made the first virus in the world of computers...
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xpress
Oct 18 2008, 05:48 PM
QUOTE(Evolix @ Oct 18 2008, 11:04 PM)  How about we develop our own virus-scanners? I know it will be tough work, but we will need excellent coders. Or, Microsoft/Apple/Linux should make a brand new OS which won't allow you to download these virus-makers. xD I wonder who actually made the first virus in the world of computers...  We need some powerful Open Source antivirus for Windows. If there is some project, I will definitely volunteer to make it best and more powerful. I read somewhere that, two Pakistani guys made (or invented) the first virus in the world.
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puneye
Jan 27 2009, 07:27 AM
We can do lots of thing to stop viruses.(windows) - Do not click randomly advertisement in websites.
- Do not use warez, pirate, torrenz, porn, free full softwares, serial/keygen web search and downloading to computers.
- Put good one antivirus program in computer. Update virus definition regularly (i.e. all virus definition are upto date.)
- Also install good firewall and do not alow to that request which you don't know.
- Don't use any crack softwares.
- If you going to put External storage devices like pen drive. Scan it before use.( I think pen drive/flash drive is the most physical communicator for viruses)
Follow the steps and Enjoy the less virus computer (nearly virus free)
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CyberWizard
Jan 26 2009, 01:45 PM
No way. We cannot do anything to stop the viruses until we are on the internet. Maybe there is only one way to stop the coming more of them by using some of the Linux distributions. Linux is more secure operating system than Windows OS. Most of them (the viruses) are made for Windows and Linux is more secure "anti-virus" OS
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stopthewarm
Jan 26 2009, 09:52 AM
Best thing that can be done to avoid getting viruses are simple 1> Stay away from non trusted websites like porn, warez etc 2> Never open links sent to your through mail even though they are from your bestest best friend 3>Never get pirated CDs The motto of the thing is that play safe to be safe
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Echo_of_thunder
Jan 21 2009, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (networker @ Jan 21 2009, 05:28 PM)  This may sound naive,but I think one way of dealing with viruses would be to put law enforcement agencies and government in charge of them,rather than just individual profit making companies as it is right now.
Computer viruses are a criminal entity, even a terroririst entity. If possible,find the people who are behind the creation of these viruses. Find the people who perpetuate them and make them thrive.
Charge them with criminal acts and throw them in jail. well they do this now. BUT it has to be a very big virus that will has effected a goverment department a large bank or something like that, but for the small person like me and you they do nothing. we as computer users must be careful of what we download what mail to open and what to delete, what sites we go to. It is sad that there some out there that make these viruses just to do it. and there places like and will not name any antivirus software, but they charge a arm and a leg for what? something that you could have most likely avoided getting in the 1st plce.
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HappyHippie
Jan 21 2009, 10:59 PM
I dont know but I think its sad why sit around and destroys other peoples stuff. I for one have had to get my pc wiped a few times and tossed ougt once it was beyond repair. I just think if these people are so talented enough to make virsus they shoud use that talent for something good instead of destroying other peoples property
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