Spying Tips And Tricks

I have created this thread to help others try to figure out when and when they should not try to sabotage. Some details may not be relevant but I am providing a complete set of information so nothing is overlooked. I don’t know if it is random or you either can sabotage or you cannot. Nisc says you need a spy bonus at least 2 times that of your opponents sentry bonus. But it might also depend on how many weapons the person has you are spying on, what kind of weapon you are trying to sabotage and relative differences in the rank. Nisc says he has also been able to spy on those 20 bellow his rank. The person I lost against is 23 bellow my rank and only has one two handed sword for my spies to try to find. So maybe there is to much working against me here.


My rank 5, his rank 28
His sentry bonus 0,
My spy rank 116,587

Today, 06:19 AM Sabotage Failed 52 Details


Result,
Your Chief of Intelligence dispatches 52 spies to attempt to sabotage 2 of weeman212's weapons of type Two Handed Sword.
Your spies are spotted inside weeman212's armory while they are attempting their sabotoge. In order to evade capture, your spies were forced to flee. Fortunately your spies are very sneaky, and many of them return safely ... 20 are caught, interrogated, and executed.

My race Ghost,
His race human

His fortification Tower
My siege technology Catapult

He had one two handed sword

 

 

 

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I would suggest that maybe he has a higher defense rank than you do and thus would catch your spies a whole lot more.

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Hold up!!! i think that it told you the wrong stuff, i had 3 swords and you sabotages all of them and i only caught 20 of your spies or sumthin lol

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Thank you very much. I just now figured out how spying works. As long as not all saboteurs are caught some weapons may get sabotaged. Perhaps I should follow up a sabotage with a single attack to see what damage it inflicted. Now that I know a sabotage might be for naught, I must decide if it is worth the dead spies.

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you know what is even more stupid? I lose spies and sentries when I attack people. In one attack, I lost a total of 25 units. 12 were attack units, 6 spies and 7 sentries. Now, my question is... why would I lose spies and sentries when doing an attack? That just doesn't make sense.

I find, the spying/sentry system is a little out of whack. Even when I have a lot less spy bonus (I had about 40k) and NilsC had about 100k sentry, I was able to see everything in his base. If the difference is that high, I think I shouldn't be able to see anything. Also, you can't hide your money because as soon as you click the persons name, it automatically shows how much money he has even if you have 0 spy bonus! That has got to go.

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Well if you want to, you could probably see what would happen if you try to sabotage me and since we are on the same team then you could tell definitely what happens. I wouldn't mind really. I am pretty capable in building back up.

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That does seem a little odd. If anything they should be lost during defending. But that fact that sentries can be lost may make spying less painful because if people loose sentries they may b e less inclined to keep big hordes of them.

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Yes, that is true...

But I don't really know too much about spies/sentries, so I barely bother with them (except making spies to check on potential targets, of course...)

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There's a common tip from the original game that never send MORE THAN 1 SPY!!! Another tip is that to observe the 25% rule which it seems that ssb is not implementing on the army system...

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Why send one spy? You get less information...

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