bhavesh
Aug 23 2006, 08:39 AM
Sometimes back I had an opinion that all softwares illegal copy and there cracks are available in net, but this is not true. Recently, I was searching for Metastock (a stock Technical Analysis Software, and also very popular among stock analyst) in these illegal sites, but I did not find any of its version, not even the crack.
I think there is some method to stop software piracy, can anybody tell what these companies are doing so their software is not available.
I am suggesting some methods for stoping these menace:-
- Search Engines - Everyone starts from here to reach there desired pirated copy. Software firms should pressurize these search engines to stop crawling the sites which contain cracks, keyzens, etc.
- Trail Copy - If a full featured trial copy of any software is provided by its owner in the net, then it becomes very easy for the crackers to make a crack for it. So, I think rather giving full featured copy, they should cut down some features in trial copy.
- Software firms should check time-to-time to see whether any cracks or serials are available in the net.
Would anybody like to add anything more.
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heaven_master_ash
Aug 23 2006, 12:06 PM
Well Friend To Stop Piracy Government Should Take Strick Actions On That Which They dont.
Other Thing Its Not Possible That Any Search For Any Thing And They Wont Get So Its Very Difficult To Stop Piraited things Search.
After That I Can tell U More Then 25% Of The World Web Is Having things Of Piracy Which Cant be Stopped easily So Its Very very Difficult To Stop Piracy..
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Galahad
Aug 24 2006, 06:35 AM
Piracy can't be stopped, simply because people will always want free software, and there will always be people willing to provide it... The only reason that Metastock program wans't on that site, is because it's not generalized program... Crackers tend to put up software that majority of people want to use, meaning Office-type software, different games, and rearly specialized software... I'm not saying it's not available, maybe it just wasn't paying off to crack that program... What a man makes, a man breakes... There is no perfect protection, and there will never be (aside from distributing a bodyguard with software, and thus preventing people from making illegal copies, by hitting them in the head with a baseball bat, or some kind of a club  )
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Gyad
Aug 24 2006, 07:20 AM
You can't stop piracy, where ever you go, online or offline, people will be distributing copies of things to others illegally. Some might not know that it's illegal to do so, some do but still defy the law. Another thing, the companies don't always go against piracy. If anything, sometimes it helps them gain publicity. If someone likes the program, there's a chance that they will buy it or recommend someone to buy it.
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Dooga
Aug 24 2006, 07:35 AM
Although have you seen the recent Windows XP CDs? They have like 10 different messages in one single area thanks to their special CD effects that changes colors and words everytime you move the CD...
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icemarle
Aug 24 2006, 09:06 AM
I highly doubt it. People have been pirating since the early ages. Plus, no matter how advanced the "good guys" get, the "bad guys" are always one step ahead of them when it comes to covering up their crimes. I hear about some thing a huge software company did to prevent piracy of their programs... then, I start hearing about how some crackers already figured a way around it. And it didn't even take too long! Besides, with the fact that it's even easier to pirate stuff now, I highly doubt it's gonna stop. Even some people beginning with computers know how to use cracks, etc... It's going to happen no matter how hard people try to stop it. You can't stop people from choosing to get the same software, file, etc. by paying for it when you can just get it somewhere in the undernet for free without paying a single cent.
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bhavesh
Aug 24 2006, 09:19 AM
QUOTE The only reason that Metastock program wans't on that site, is because it's not generalized program... I think you dont know about Metastock. Let me explain you, the two top ranked stocks Technical analysis softwares are Metastock (No. 1) and Amibroker (No. 2). These softwares are used world wide and they have high demand too, infact for searching free copy of Metastock I came to know about some people, who have bought it and now want to sell its illegal copy to recover the price. So, this s/w is in high demand. As I have told in my first post QUOTE 2. Trail Copy - If a full featured trial copy of any software is provided by its owner in the net, then it becomes very easy for the crackers to make a crack for it. So, I think rather giving full featured copy, they should cut down some features in trial copy. Amibroker (No. 2) does this, they provide the trial copy which doesnt save the database, only these feature lacks from the licensed version. And you search for its crack in web and will find many. So I dont think if crackers can provide cracks for No. 2 then why cant they provide for No. 1 Metastock must be doing something to save its software. QUOTE Other Thing Its Not Possible That Any Search For Any Thing And They Wont Get So Its Very Difficult To Stop Piraited things Search. I think if search engine agree ban searching of some keywords then it is possible.
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no9t9
Aug 26 2006, 02:00 AM
the main reason why you can't stop piracy on the internet is because the internet is not localized anywhere. nobody really controls it. no one country has jurisdiction over the internet and there is not governing body that has been given the power to monitor the whole internet. that means the laws only apply to the country the person downloading or uploading is in. if it is legal in your coutnry, you can upload or download whatever you want. If the person downloading from you is from a country that is not legal, then then can be prosecuted.
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3-me
Aug 26 2006, 02:22 AM
Piracy can't be stopped. Period.
Microsoft tried stopping piracy by making all their new programs, and updates for Genuine only. That didn't work out.
As soon as the Windows Genuine Validation tool came out, the very next day, people cracked it. No matter how much they updated it, it was still getting cracked.
Personally, I don't have a problem with Piracy. I mean, if someone goes through all that length, just to get a free copy of software, then shouldn't the companies be proud that they made something that works?
Maybe someone isn't the richest person in the world. Yes, Bill Gates, I know it's hard to believe for him, but not alot of people have that much money. So they refer to warez, or torrents, or even Kazaa and Limewire.
Most people don't get why others would go through the trouble of being caught for software that they could buy for $20-$50, but then again, most of those people haven't been in the other's shoes.
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ProtoMan
Aug 26 2006, 02:56 AM
Software piracy can't be stopped . Like Webroot , you can only download the uncrackable of their softwares because they will die after 15 days free trial but then , crackers upload the CRACKED full version of Webroot's products to some stupid Warez pages.Even if they make that you can only buy their software , not any trials first , their software will be still free on the Warez pages.Microsoft tried to make the Windows Validation Program but some computers still can use Window Internet Explorer 7 Beta 3 or Window Media Player 11 Beta or Window Defender Beta 2 and more. So I think Piracy software can't be stopped unless there is no crackers
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iGuest
Nov 14 2009, 07:26 PM
Piracy (AKA Sharing?) Is sharing "stealing"?
Can Software Piracy Be Stopped?
Piracy = stealing. Sharing never is & never has been "stealing". This is just a marketing trick by greedy mogules who can never be satisfied with just a few millions of dollars. Remember all those "we are starving, our kids cannot afford their next meal!" ads by artists?
This is nothing but a baldfaced like & scam! I went to a Metallica concert recently (Lars, the drummer sued Napster in time past for "stealing" when it was only sharing what they already had!) The tickets were about $50 on average with some a lot more! There were over 100,000 people there to see them.
Tell me, does this sound like they are going broke if 100,000 + people at $50 a head (or more?) paying to get in ($500,000 +) for a single night, & knowing they do 5 tours a week or more at times?
No, they are not starving, & never have been. If they were so bad off, they would quit what they are doing & get a real job where they had to actually work in order to make $$$! I know how easy playing music is, because I played drums for a very good band for a few years. I was told a lot by people that they came just to hear how I played!
If you are asking can sharing be stopped, no it cannot. Every form of anti-copy has already been broken, including CSS encryption, laser lock, bad sectors, duplicate sectors, dummy tracks, region lock, sony arcos, etc. There isn't any way to prevent copying because the moment content is viewable & seeable in a form we can understand, it is already broken. It is that exact moment that a copy is easy to make.
All that it takes to break a copy is to know enough about how the anti-copy works to create the anti-copy. Sometimes, it is so easy that even that isn't needed. Using a different way to do things than the developer intended can reveal places they didn't patch software which enables you to use it again, like you intended.
All this talk about "piracy" makes me sick, since piracy is supposed to be about stealing, as in someone takes something that does not belong to them like a cd off a store shelf without paying for it.
If someone buys a cd, then they own the cd because they paid for it & can share it as many times as they want & there is nothing anyone can do about it. For those who claim, but there are license agreements, & they really do not own the cd, only the right to use it!
Here is my response. They do not sign a legal agreement before the sale, & since you are not even told or warned that this has a 10 mile long license agreement that would take 10 years to read & 100 to understand fully, well, even if it is 10 miles long, they bought the license agreement along with the software/games/music that was on the disk WITHOUT signing a thing.
Meaning, the disk AND the agreement becomes theirs to use as they will, so whatever they do with the license agreement, oh well, they bought it, so they own the license agreement too! It is not binding legally since they never had to sign it before making the sale!
And for those who decry people who buy software saying they are basically renting it, well, here is my response: IF IT IS FOR SALE, YOU ARE BUYING IT, NOT RENTING! Now, if you are renting, they should post a notice saying this software is for rent, & you do not own it upon paying for it. They will not do this, because sales will decline.
This violates the truth in advertising/labeling laws since they are lying that you buy it when you are really renting it instead! It is falsely mislabeled & purposefully so! The law doesn't care these days what is right or wrong, as you may have noticed, but rather about who gives them a few million extra dollars!
I personally to not feel sorry for these rich people in power, who spend billions of our dollars, even money that they do not have, but the poorer people are obliged to pay everything they owe or go to jail? I was victimized a few years back, & that is exactly what happened to me. Instead of allowing me to make payments as I worked, my mom had to pay $3,500 to clear me so I wouldn't go to jail for what someone else did! But the government can make bad loans, spend billions on wars built on false pretenses, & get away with things they would murder us for?
This isn't justice people, this is total mayhem!
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Gazeekoo
Aug 11 2009, 03:02 PM
Hehe, that's a funny little story, rpgsearcher! And yes, I agree. Piracy can't and won't be stopped. Is it even a debate if everyone is on the same side?
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rpgsearcherz
Aug 11 2009, 12:58 PM
The issue with piracy is that it's not only about getting free items. In fact, those who crack it *own the originals* in most cases. There are two reasons it will never end. 1) Cracking is fun. It's a way to say "I'm smarter than you. There is nothing you can possibly think of that I can't circumvent." A direct example is when the Xbox 360 was released and Bill Gates claimed it was uncrackable. Within hours after the system's release there was already a video of someone who cracked it and was using a burned game. Why did he do it? Solely because Bill Gates challenged him. 2) Popularity. When someone (say Razor1911) cracks a lot of software they get the fame associated with it. Of course normal people don't know who these usernames belong to, but regardless the fame is still there. And there is absolutely not even one piece of software that can't be cracked. And there never will be. "No matter how smart you are, someone else is smarter" plays a huge role here. It doesn't matter if you're the best programmer in the world, someone can dissect it. The funniest crack I ever saw was with a program called SoftIce. This is a debugging program so it shows hex code and everything and allows you to edit things "on the fly" as the program runs. Well, they released a 3 day or so trial of the software (it was $1000+ if I remember right) so businesses could test it out. And during the trial some guy used THEIR trial software to create a key generator for the program, and it worked. That, by far, is to me the funniest crack ever done. Using someone's own software to crack itself.
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100janovski
Aug 11 2009, 12:42 PM
NO... Every second man in this world is using piracy or warez. I'm one of them  . The piracy it's outspread and nobody can stop it. Who wants to pay 100$ for a software when he can download it for free?
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Nameless_
Aug 11 2009, 11:13 AM
Yeah... this is most definitely a NO. In replying to the first poster, I think that if a company's product isn't up for illegal downloads and all that, it just means that the people that tries to copy softwares just didn't copy it, a hint that the product might be slightly useless and quite unpopular. Piracy can never be controlled, because even when companies finds ways to stop their products from being stolen and/or sold illegally, the hackers will always find ways to get through the system. Just like someone in the above posts said, it just gets harder, but there are still loopholes in the system and hackers will eventually get through. After all, most hackers are one step ahead of society... just like strains of flus and all that. New injections have to be replaced by even newer ones because of their mutation and newly gained immune system.
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