BooZker
Nov 18 2006, 10:24 PM
Before i start i want to make sure you understand this is not a what OS is better this is a what is better at certain things and your reasons why. I would also like to know more about Linux because i'm slightly confused on it. Will it mess my computer up if i install it, dont like it, and uninstall it? OK on with the topic. I own a Mac and work on one for many hours a day, but had always used a Windows based system since well i was 5 and i remember my father using DOS to run Duke Nukem haha. So i know my way around it. Here is my Pros and Cons list Windows:Pros: - Almost every game runs on it
- Tons of programs run on it
- More Cusomization on the computers is possible
Cons: - SPYWARE, VIRUSES, ADWARE GALLORE!
- Not as "nice" looking
- Error message after error message
Mac:Pros: - Very sleek and clean looking
- Never had any viruses or spyware yet and it's been over 4 months. (long time for a windows user haha)
- Lots of great built in programs such iMovie which is a REALLY good Windows Movie Maker and Garage Band which is very handy for me who makes movies
If your a graphic designer like me you need one anyways haha Cons: - Pretty much no games for it
- Harder to find programs for it
- Hardware you have to get through Apple most of the time and can't just go to Target and pick up a CD drive.
LinuxPro's: - Most distributions are free (Open-source).
- Good for servers.
- Some distributions have good user support.
- Some distributions allow you to test before installing (LiveCD).
Con's: - Some distributions require some knowledge of how Linux works to get the most out of that distribution.
- Not many companies make programs for Linux.
- It's a pain in the *bottom* to try to get Linux to run on a system with another OS already installed.
I do have to say though that Windows is great, but i like Mac better simply because Mac CAN run windows and it connects to Windows networks and runs windows keyboard and mouses and most of the stuff. I think that Windows should try to be more cross platform compatible also. It would make the world a better place haha. Unbuntu i have tried the live CD and i have tried over and over, but i can never seem to get to install it so i have a duel boot system. I have read so many tutorials then when i try to partition it wont let me. I loved the live CD though.
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NDPA
Nov 18 2006, 11:01 PM
Hey, you said you were gonna comment about Linux, too... so where's the Linux in that list?
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truefusion
Nov 19 2006, 02:40 AM
I guess he forgot. But here's some Pro's and Con's for Linux you could use: Pro's:- Most distributions are free (Open-source).
- Good for servers.
- Some distributions have good user support.
- Some distributions allow you to test before installing (LiveCD).
Con's:- Some distributions require some knowledge of how Linux works to get the most out of that distribution.
- Not many companies make programs for Linux.
Meh, i haven't used Linux, besides a LiveCD. But that's what i can think of off the top of my head.
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rldowling03
Nov 19 2006, 03:10 AM
Another good thing about Linux is that a few websites will send you a liveCD or liveDVD of a selection of linux distributions for free to your home, i can't remember where you have to go but i seen it on here someone had a link to the website in their signature, also Ubuntu have a service where they will send you a liveCD to your home address for free, I did it and got it within a month. It's great if you don't wanna pay or download for linux.
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rvalkass
Nov 19 2006, 09:45 AM
I'm gonna disagree with a point about Windows there. No way is it more customisable compared to any Linux distro you pick. Windows has more hidden settings and things you can't control than any other operating system. On a Mac you also still get a load of error messages, so that is not a solely Windows problem.
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xboxrulz
Nov 19 2006, 08:34 PM
ya, Linux is much more customisable than Windows will ever be. Heck, I'm a Linux user myself.
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BooZker
Dec 6 2006, 07:53 AM
Well until recently i had never used a linux. I just started using Ubuntu and LOVE it. I wish i could use a NON livecd though. I can't figure out how to dual boot the system. I have tried partitioning the system, but it wont let me. Any help with that? Linux is much more customizable though. Your right. I also forget about how much of a *BLEEP* it is to customize windows, because i have a site where that's all it is and i know my way around it fairly well lol. The site is in my sig if you care.
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Galahad
Dec 10 2006, 08:37 AM
Even though I'm a Windows user myself, I can't think of any more pro's and con's concerning Windows... Mac, I never used and never been in contact, so I can't comment on Macs, even though I hope to come across one some day  Now, for Linux, I can add that it's main pro is that it's open source, and that you can change your kernel (provided that you know what you're doing), and change practically anything in your system, from appearance, to functionality... Pf course, main con is that it's not as user friendly as windows is, but that too is changing fast, as companies distributing linux are popping all over the place... Ubuntu must be the best distribution of user friendly linux around... Slackware is the oice of professionals, who know what they're doing... I have to keep Windows installed on my computer, because of work, but I should be getting another computer soon, so that machine will be turned into linux server, and I will finally be able to spend some time using linux
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TheWakeUpCall
Dec 22 2006, 11:55 AM
I personally have never had spyware or viruses on my computer. Soo, I think that is a bit unfair to put that on the list. It's not hard to avoid viruses. There are some defects with XP that I don't like though. Main one being that when you install a program it is put in the startup list so your computer gets slow if you don't disable them at startup. But windows is definately the best OS. My reasons for saying that is: I've used Mac intel for a few weeks as my main OS, and I didn't like it. Sure it looks pretty, but is quite unusable with alot of stuff. For example browsing the internet. Macs are only good if you want to use certain pieces of software. I tried to install linux but no distros I tried worked, soo that sucks. But what I understand about Linux is that it can't run any of my favourite software (flash, cubase, dreamweaver, itunes, live messenger) and also for all the software you get it is just copies of Windows software under a different name that's really crap compared to the real thing.
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blendergalactica
Dec 22 2006, 04:02 PM
QUOTE(BooZker @ Nov 18 2006, 10:24 PM)  Before i start i want to make sure you understand this is not a what OS is better this is a what is better at certain things and your reasons why. I would also like to know more about Linux because i'm slightly confused on it. Will it mess my computer up if i install it, dont like it, and uninstall it? OK on with the topic. I own a Mac and work on one for many hours a day, but had always used a Windows based system since well i was 5 and i remember my father using DOS to run Duke Nukem haha. So i know my way around it. Here is my Pros and Cons list Windows:Pros: - Almost every game runs on it
- Tons of programs run on it
- More Cusomization on the computers is possible
Cons: - SPYWARE, VIRUSES, ADWARE GALLORE!
- Not as "nice" looking
- Error message after error message
Mac:Pros: - Very sleek and clean looking
- Never had any viruses or spyware yet and it's been over 4 months. (long time for a windows user haha)
- Lots of great built in programs such iMovie which is a REALLY good Windows Movie Maker and Garage Band which is very handy for me who makes movies
If your a graphic designer like me you need one anyways haha Cons: - Pretty much no games for it
- Harder to find programs for it
- Hardware you have to get through Apple most of the time and can't just go to Target and pick up a CD drive.
LinuxPro's: - Most distributions are free (Open-source).
- Good for servers.
- Some distributions have good user support.
- Some distributions allow you to test before installing (LiveCD).
Con's: - Some distributions require some knowledge of how Linux works to get the most out of that distribution.
- Not many companies make programs for Linux.
- It's a pain in the *bottom* to try to get Linux to run on a system with another OS already installed.
I do have to say though that Windows is great, but i like Mac better simply because Mac CAN run windows and it connects to Windows networks and runs windows keyboard and mouses and most of the stuff. I think that Windows should try to be more cross platform compatible also. It would make the world a better place haha. Unbuntu i have tried the live CD and i have tried over and over, but i can never seem to get to install it so i have a duel boot system. I have read so many tutorials then when i try to partition it wont let me. I loved the live CD though. Macs: Pros: No virus, little spyware Most Opensource apps for Linux run fine on OSX You can find all major commercial software for OSX, including Adobe, MS Office, Quark. Apple only apps: iLife, Final Cut Pro, Logic, etc. Now you can run OSX and Windows on the same box Cons Price. Apple hardware comes a premium Apple tends to nickle and dime you (remember, Ilife was once free!) Most popular games are ported to mac, and now with the Intel boxes, I look for increased support. But the fact of the matter is most Mac users use their computer for work not play. They aren't playing games on their mac. In fact the only game I have is Stronghold and Vegastrike...and I rarely play either one. THat's what the PS2 is for!
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The Simpleton
Nov 2 2009, 10:05 AM
I would say Linux is still the best of the three even though the Mac and Windows have a lot of advantages over Linux in many aspects. Linux is entirely free and the support you get from users all over the world is simply amazing. In case of Windows you are paying for something weak and vulnerable and apart from some applications like games and Photoshop I don't think there's any reason for people to stick with Windows. I've never used Mac so I can't really comment on it, but it's out of the reach of the ordinary man and that itself is its biggest weakness. Unless it's available to the public at large it cannot hope to become the top OS. But it does seem a beautiful alternative to Windows, incorporating the security features from Linux as well.
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inverse_bloom
Nov 2 2009, 08:53 AM
To be honest I'm not too big on Apple Macs. Admittedly the last Mac i used was a very long time ago so things may well have changed. But the last Mac i used was a 99 model i believe either a powerMac or G3, i never took notice. On them was Mac OS 9, we used them through a graphic design school and they proved very unreliable for our requirements. I think they were 450 Mhz with 300 or so Megs of ram, but Mac OS 9 was evidently very glitchy to deal with. They were terrible to multi task between Sound Edit 16, Photoshop 4, and Illustrator 8. Freeze ups were common, network issues were a major hassle to sort, they looked cruddy compared to Win XP at the time, etc. At the same time OS X leopard on G4 was brought out and was a huge improvement apparently. But after using those original Mac's i never saw any reason to believe the hype or the words from the few fanatical lecturers we had. Although despite mentioning all that, i have used a powerBook or whatever they call them for half an hour, and based on that brief experience it seemed silky.
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rvalkass
Nov 1 2009, 09:53 AM
QUOTE (FruitRocks @ Nov 1 2009, 01:16 AM) Currently, this is completely legal AS LONG AS YOU BOUGHT A RETAIL DISC, NOT DOWNLOADED ONE! From Apple's License: QUOTE This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use
or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one
computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time. Basically, you are only allowed to install their software on computers made by them, even if you go out and buy the retail CD yourself. This is why no-one has done before what Psystar is doing now - lawsuits from Apple. As a matter of interest, Psystar's terms include a clause stating that you take all the legal risks, and you are liable if you get sued by Apple. Good luck with that  Admittedly the risk is a small one, but I'm sure Apple will find a way to either detect these installations or prevent them.
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FruitRocks
Nov 1 2009, 01:16 AM
I think that Vista has given Windows a very bad name. A few days ago, I bought a new laptop with Windows 7-64 bit Home Premium, and have never had a problem with it so far. If you don't like Windows but can't afford a Mac, here is a pointer: If you buy a Windows Laptop with a Intel Core 2 Duo CPU, i7, etc, Psystar has supplied the Rebel EFI for which you can buy for about $50 (there is a 2-hour trial available, but again, its only 2 hours). What it does is you basically insert the disc into the machine and then swap !it out with the retail Mac OS X disc, install and wham. Full-blown Mac. Currently, this is completely legal AS LONG AS YOU BOUGHT A RETAIL DISC, NOT DOWNLOADED ONE! Again, don't be cheap. Apple deserves their money even if you aren't buying it for a real Mac, and you can even get a Tiger disc for about $10 nowadays. http://store.psystar.com/rebel_efiMy Config: TOSHIBA A505-S6980 Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB RAM Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Mac OS X Snow Leo Server 
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iGuest
Oct 26 2009, 04:30 AM
Windows:
Pros-
It plays alot of games
User Friendly
Cons-
VIRUSES!
Open Ports
BSODS
Errors Reports
Mac:
Pros-
Looks nice
Good for servers
Secure
Cons-
Really really expensive
Linux:
Pros-
Has a massive open source software repository built right into the OS itself
Open support in IRC chat rooms (for ubuntu you even have a website dedicated to bugs www.Launchpad.Net)
Very secure, no open ports
No viruses
Not "entirely" safe, but if you do some google searching it's easy to configure it to be safe.
Exclillent driver support, more support than either windows or OSX
-Cons
Not very user friendly (that's changing rather quickly)
Slow on the newest hardware vender support
Just adding a bit more to the pros of linux :D
-reply by psinetic
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