Linux Ubuntu Vs Windows Vista - Discussion on which OS is better, Vista or Ubuntu.

QUOTE (ahmed1412 @ Nov 17 2008, 08:58 AM)

A few weeks ago, i downloaded a live-cd for Linux Ubuntu 8.4 and booted it from the cd. It was not as bad as i had thought (although i had trouble booting ) but REALY SLOW. So i installed Ubuntu and was pretty nice . From my experience from vista and ubuntu i have to say vista still stands number for me. Which one do you think is better?

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I am going to ignore Vista completely and go to 7.

 First, Though, I must say Vista does take quite a lot of RAM. While it has Glitches in its own protection and limitation system: UAC, it does have A very nice cashe service and because of this preforms many actions in a quicker pace.

 For Instance, when you open a file in Vista, and it is heavily opened, it Looks to the cashe and opens it in literally half a second. But is this Enough? No,Vista has improved drivers for writing to the hard drive and While it still takes a large portion of processing power, it still Takes less power to run than Ubuntu because power solutions are a very Large part of the OS. Ubuntu, on the other hand, is made for straightforward programming with little difficulty on the side of bugs And errors. In this way, they went straightforward in doing everything And did not consider power consumption (it is a large group effort of Streight-foward OS dependencies and programs after all).

 However, Let me move away from Ubuntu's simplicity and Vista's cashing. Windows 7 not only has even more improved voice recognition, cashe, and other Things alsong the line from Vista, but the OS its self has fewer Processes and takes less space in the RAM. It has a sleep look like Vista, but even more customizable and sleeker (in my opinion [new Taskbar look and take on loading and such features]).

Windows 7 is also coming out with several applications that Ubuntu cannot Mimic without paying its own large share of money to hire programmers. To start, the voice recognition software will Probably never be seen in a decently-close version on Ubuntu. It is Just another one of those things. Also, Windows is releasing drivers That can be used by system programs through the OS to access features Such as multi-touch, something we are all looking forward to. We have Already experienced one such application, as I do not know the name, But it was a globe that could expand and spin by touch as a realistic One does.

 Now, Ubuntu is backed by thousands of bug-fixers working For free, tons of people making open-source application, and an army of Driver creators. Ubuntu come pre-installed with user-friendly apps that Can help any user get to not only KNOW the OS, but use it with Simplicity. The simplicity part is not always straightforward Though...As you may know. Ubuntu is also arguably built well around Multi-user preformance. With sudo, your advanced computer user can have A generously safe computer with little hassle...Except for the Complications. Sometimes you don't want to just use the command line For everything, but few people care. Booting into sudo would ruin this Just like booting into admin on Vista. People may not realise such Security threats...So, in Ubuntu, it is in no way to the normal user Easy to do that, but probably for their own good...Since it's little Effort to use the command line in most situations.

Ubuntu has some problems too...For instance, when you Install a program, all the binaries are dumped to a file called bin. While this, I have found, is useful concerning Ubuntu, it may also have Problems. When you install a program in windows, it doesn't install 50 Binaries all into one folder. It has a Program Files folder for Programs to dump their data into, executables and ALL. In ubuntu, these Things, this data, is separated. A better organization is due, in my Opinion, for the binaries concerning applications.

On that mark, You can usually add any installed program to your GNOME menu through The menu editor. This almost always works, but I have used Ubuntu for Only so much time, and I have installed about 100 programs. From these, About 4 have had this problem. I had to go look in the bin folder for The executable to add it to the list.

 Finally, I will talk About both Ubuntu and 7 here. The file browsing experience on 7 is much Faster, as has been said, but from what I see, is much simpler. The Backlighted icons are nice, just like on 7, but Ubuntu is pretty rough In the GUI on my opinion. As little information as it is, I think People can relate to what I am saying. However, I would have to say Dragging files around in 7 and vista is quite annoying. Most of the Time, it just makes a drag box...But I think when you click on the Backscreen only, it should do that. The only way to avoid this is to Hold down the cursor for a second, which has probably wasted about 50 Minutes of my life...Yeh, I drag lots of files around on the GUI!

All in all, I find 7 to be the best with all of its program support and Usability. I think most people like Ubuntu because it's open source and That only...However, I can think of many situations in which Ubuntu is Useful. Of course, Windows has something people around here may not Know about, DRM, which slows it down exponentially and does nothing What-so-ever. If DRM leaves, Ubuntu has another thing coming...Still, 7 Takes about the same amount of RAM as Ubuntu, nearly as much as XP, and It is inevitable that they are both in the big leagues. You can't deny Either one of these great OSes. I suggest having a dual boot, since I Have run into many problems that just cant be solved in windows!

Good luck guys, choose both!

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"Yes Windows is better than any other OS and I bet, you might go to Other OS just for sake of testing it or having a feel of it, but when It will come to other features of OS and more things you would like to Do with your PC, you will come to know, Windows is the best. I have Installed Ubuntu quite a few times, looks soothe too, but easiness and Expandability of operations makes me come back to Windows."

are you talking about features such as interoperability? You know, like how you natively read ntfs partitions in *nix, but cannot read anything but FAT* and NTFS in windows? Is the restart in time a feature, makes sure people take typing breaks from their Vista computers. Please explain what features are available on Vista, and are not available on ubuntu shy of typing apt-get install feature-name. Lets say you want to upgrade your video driver in windows, while your kids are watching a Hannah Montana movie marathon on a shared drive: download, use the mouse all over the screen clicking next next next, pray windows file protection don't keep some files the driver is trying to update, restart the PC listen to little girls cry and finally cross your fingers as it boots up (see file protection step). On ubuntu open a terminal and type sudo -I, killall gdm && apt-get install xorg-drivers-ati, when that is done log out and then log back in (take important note the kids didnt even notice).

As for easiness of operation please do not inject your own view, ou are not in the right shoes to say it is Easy when you mean you are more familiar with it. If you give someone Ubuntu on their first computer and (how ever long you have been using windows products) years later offer that person Vista? Yes they would make similar complaints you have (why does it take me 5 minutes and 10 mouse clicks to change a networking option). Now for expandability, you really did not go there when attempting to compare windows to GNU/Linux, exactly how does one "Expand" the windows operating system? Do you mean go out and purchase the Vista Ultimate upgrade to enable desktop transparency (which *nix had working before XP days)?

Though I must admit in some areas *nix is lagging. Video games, video editors Open Office doesn't look as sexy as MS office 2k7. But the functionality is there and as more people work their way over the learning curve of *nix this line will be blurred more and more. 

In my opinion the areas that *nix outshines windows more than makes up for it. IE, I can boot up, log into a Cisco router, copy the config with minicom, swap out the router with a new one, write the config to the new router and shut down the laptop before I would even be at the login screen if I had booted my lappy into XP. And this applies to all my IT work. I have yet to have *nix fail on me in all these years where the best solution is to reinstall the operating system. Even when installing *nix you have a completely usable computer, have you ever browsed the internet, checked you e-mail or watched a movie on the computer while windows was being installed?

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Ubuntu is the best choice for me. I've been using Windows for as long as I know (3.11, 95, 98, XP, and Vista) and I still use XP at work, but recently I switched from Vista to Ubuntu 9.04 and I must admit it's the bes OS I've ever tried. Of course, after years of using Windows I was not familiar with a lot of Linux stuff, and after a couple of days reading posts it was really simply to solve. All I possibly need is in Ubuntu. I don't game, so I have nothing to miss from windows, instead I regret not giving a try to Ubuntu before. I simply hate Vista because since I started using it I have not been able to solve all the problems I've had with software I tried to install and couldn´t, or maybe could but not run, or programs crashing down, internet connections failing, etc, etc, etc. Ubuntu is not for people who want it easy, but it is not as difficult to use as they say, so give it a try, you won't regret it!

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