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Read Latest Entries..: (Post #19) by zakaluka on Apr 10 2009, 08:07 AM.
QUOTE (sweet_tchxprt @ Feb 3 2009, 03:25 PM) hey java is d best in programming coz it doesnt need any complier as c++it only need a JDK which is for all os but in case of c++ we need a complier for every os.I'm sorry but that statement is utterly incorrect. Java does have a compiler. It is part of the JDK. The binary is called javac (stands for 'java compiler'). The difference is that it compiles Java source code to bytecode that is interpreted by a runtime.Also, each p...
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PCessna
Many having tell me to make my MMORPG in java leads me to agree, But I'm not sure truly is it not yet easier, but yet the outcome of programming an MMORPG in java will make it fail or succeed more then one in C+=

I've learned a lot of variables in javascript, and I don't think that java would be too bad either.

My true question is, is those who use these languages, which seems to give better outcome, and which seems to be more in ease.

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-PCessna

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pandu
C++ is generally agreed upon as being harder than Java. If you want to make an mmorpg, then you need to pick what type. If you want a stand alone game, then you probably want to use C++. If you want a web-based game (like RuneScape) then make a Java applet. Either way, it's easier to make a game in Java, especially with the huge standard library and available documentation and great support for things like sockets.

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Sica-GURU
If you're thinking to build mobile phones games..java is No.1 biggrin.gif
if not...i guess C++ is better.. but depends on the type of application, so for some applications dealing with C++ will be much harder than with Java.

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moutonoir
At my school, they teach us Java first, then C++. And it makes sense...I've yet to find a significant project that was much easier to do in C++ than in Java. C++ has its perks in that it often produces faster programs and can be more powerful, but Java has the advantage of a huge standard library which helps immensely in your coding. Often you'll find that what you want to do has already been done for you, so you can concentrate on other aspects of your code. It's also easier to make your program web-accessible with applets in Java.

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xico
C++ increases speed, while Java gives you more productivity. But c++ is more complex, then to create a Web application, for example, it is recommended that you use Java.

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seba1killer
Hi, i dont know why are you chosing between this two object oriented languages.
In my opinion a game should be done in C or C++, i would not have in mind java because it is some slow for 3D graphics and it is executed on a jvirtual machines, so the server will be slow and will need a faster machine than a server done in C/C++.
My other point is that C or C++ can be compiled in Linux, Mac or Windows if you are planning to use OpenGL Apii. This way your client will have compatibility in all these famous platforms.
Also if you are making the server in C with Unix sockets, it will also be compatible with all the massive operating systems.
Well, to finish my recomendation is that you do the game in C++ language as it is not very complicated. If you know how to program you will find it very easy but some tedious to write the graphics engine.
I expect you got millions for the project and share it with us tongue.gif .

Good luck, Seba.

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moodsey211
For me it really depends on you. Java and C++ as its own pros and cons, it really depends on you which language you would prefer. provided that you are willing to sacrifice based on the language you choose. for example if your going to develop the game using java, you will have to sacrifice its speed and hardware requirements. In the other hand if your going to develop it in C++ then be prepared to do complex programming. The choice really would be yours to make.

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gogoily
C++ run faster than Java. But Java can run on lots of operation system without changing any source codes.

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lucachaco
yeah am agree

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Blood
its all depending on your knowledge but java look at this mmorpg that i play its called runescape i dont know if some of you heard of it buts its been upgraded alot and now its has better graphics and more hours of plays. it can be found here www.runescape.com the game entire game is coded of java and you don't have to downloaded which is a browser game

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zakaluka
QUOTE (sweet_tchxprt @ Feb 3 2009, 03:25 PM) *
hey java is d best in programming coz it doesnt need any complier as c++
it only need a JDK which is for all os but in case of c++ we need a complier for every os.


I'm sorry but that statement is utterly incorrect. Java does have a compiler. It is part of the JDK. The binary is called javac (stands for 'java compiler'). The difference is that it compiles Java source code to bytecode that is interpreted by a runtime.

Also, each platform requires its own version of the JDK to compile programs and the JRE to run them. There are many (dozens) of platforms that have no JDK / JRE support. In contrast, C / C++ (certain subsets) work on all those platforms. Obviously, this applies to many smaller platforms that most people are not aware of.

Still, please don't spread misinformation if you are not sure of how certain programming languages work.

Regards,

z.

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aloKNsh
hey java is d best in programming coz it doesnt need any complier as c++
it only need a JDK which is for all os but in case of c++ we need a complier for every os.

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xpress
Yeah. We finally agreed at some point. biggrin.gif The speed mainly depends on our programming skilss, and what inbuilt libraries we use. All others are secondary. So lets stop our argument here.... smile.gif

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niklophiliac
Java 6 has not done too much to improve the JIT implementations IMO, they have now completely removed the memory management from the user's hands. JVM handles everything now. And I think a few more features like navigable sets, maps have been introduced. I feel they are more concerned with what the new changes will do to the existing legacy code which is limiting them to quite a large extent.

Coming back to your arguments I think we have summed up years worth of debate on the very topic...

Ultimately the verdict should be - use the language you are more comfortable with and you will get better results. Programming skills count more than the programming skills and proper implementation of concepts is what is more important.

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xpress
QUOTE(niklophiliac @ Nov 25 2008, 12:49 AM) *
I will provide you with an excellent article on this topic:
http://www.jelovic.com/articles/why_java_is_slow.htm


I had read that article already. That is pretty old. Java has undergone some dramatical improvements these days. And java was improving in its performance with new release of every version. No, I am not sayint C++ is slow. I am standing to my previous opinion....it depends. Really it depends. The benchmarks are changing when the program changes. And different programmers are writing different opinions. Look at the forllowing articles...

The Java is Faster than C++ and C++ sucks Unbiased Benchmark
and look at this article. It is latest and based on Java6. Yet Another Java vs C++ shootout

But there are some other bench marks and analysis saying that C++ is faster. Basically they are using differnet algorithms so these different results. So, performance depends on the programmer, his code and the algorithm he used..... smile.gif

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