kraizii88z
Mar 29 2007, 05:51 PM
Check this out, (if you have the raw nerve):
Loose Change, a 9/11 doc: --Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRd-iA8v89I
--Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJw97CL2Coc
--Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJqqtMQ6pkA ______________________
It'll make you cry. Do you need anymore proof? What else does it take? Does the vice president have to shoot you in the face?
Spread it around like herpes in a Danish whorehouse~
Peace Out, pursue truth.
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chipmunk
Mar 29 2007, 06:13 PM
WOW THAT IS SO *BLEEP*IN SAD(SORRY FOR CURSING) YES THAT WAS A SAD DAY FOR ALL OF AMERICA BUT THE PAST IS THE PAST AND NOW WE ARE IN THE PRESENT AND KICKING *bottom*!
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Misanthrope
Mar 30 2007, 04:05 AM
This is one of the best topics I've seen in a while, and it concerns me that more members haven't chimed in yet. Can you say, "apathy"? Turn off the mainstream lies and turn on the youtube videos Kraizii88z has brought to your attention, for God sakes. While you're at it, check out radio truth guru, Alex Jones for further enlightenment. This is not the time to stick your head in the sand with video games and shallow diversions. "911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB", says Alex Jones (and a host of experts). It simply could not have happened without our own government pulling the strings of international puppets. If anyone can explain why the most powerful nation on earth ordered it's military to stand down while one of it's largest city's was attacked, I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts.
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Hadi
Mar 30 2007, 04:15 PM
QUOTE This is one of the best topics I've seen in a while, and it concerns me that more members haven't chimed in yet. Can you say, "apathy"? Turn off the mainstream lies and turn on the youtube videos Kraizii88z has brought to your attention, for God sakes. While you're at it, check out radio truth guru, Alex Jones for further enlightenment. This is not the time to stick your head in the sand with video games and shallow diversions. "911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB", says Alex Jones (and a host of experts). It simply could not have happened without our own government pulling the strings of international puppets. If anyone can explain why the most powerful nation on earth ordered it's military to stand down while one of it's largest city's was attacked, I'd be very interested in hearing your thoughts. I totally agree with you, do you know what too? More than half of the Jewish emplyees there were absent on this day. I'm not accusing anyone, but that's the fact. The video of the muslims who were inside the plane could have been easily made up with some advanced graphical techniques. Plus, Bin Laden spent an considerable amount of time in the United States. These days almost everything is possible: The CIA admitted to have assasined political people that has an opinion against the opinion of the U.S and more precisely the CIA. People even started thinking that Kennedy's assasination could have been made up by the CIA. Who can stop them? Or do you think that stinky George bush is the one ruling the U.S, he is just an image to hide what's behind it.
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jebriggsy
Mar 30 2007, 08:06 PM
FolkRockFan
Mar 30 2007, 08:58 PM
People just don't want to believe that somewhere out there, an entire region of people hate us. Heaven forbid we actually admit that the extremists in the Middle East have wanted to destroy us (and Israel) for a long time now. We just can't cope with that. It's easier for us to claim that Bush is behind it - even though that makes no sense compared to what really happened on 9/11. So: grow up, look at the world beyond the United States and realize that yes, the terrorists DO hate us for no good reason.
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ghostrider
Mar 30 2007, 09:57 PM
After reading the popular mechanics I still believe that the September 11th attacks were done by terrorists. As posted above, people just don't want to deal with the fact that some people want to kill us.
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husker
Mar 30 2007, 10:03 PM
I'm agreeing with FolkRockFan here. You guys are basically telling me that 100s of Americans knew about this and no one planned to stop them. Do you think that all of those people hated America so much that they would be willing to hurt it? It's simply impossible. And if you believe or government is responsible for this, then why haven't you left the US? (I know some of you are from other places) Even though they were a lot of question marks in the video as to how it could of happened, there is even more about why America would have done this to themselves. It's because they didn't! I could find an equally bias video as this to prove to you they terrorists really did do this, but I'll let you believe whatever you want.
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Watermonkey
Mar 30 2007, 10:52 PM
QUOTE(husker @ Mar 30 2007, 03:03 PM)  I'm agreeing with FolkRockFan here. You guys are basically telling me that 100s of Americans knew about this and no one planned to stop them. Do you think that all of those people hated America so much that they would be willing to hurt it? It's simply impossible. And if you believe or government is responsible for this, then why haven't you left the US? (I know some of you are from other places) Even though they were a lot of question marks in the video as to how it could of happened, there is even more about why America would have done this to themselves. It's because they didn't! I could find an equally bias video as this to prove to you they terrorists really did do this, but I'll let you believe whatever you want. Something tells me you and the others above your post haven't actually looked at those videos that are linked in the original post. Please don't even comment until after you've viewed those videos with an open mind. OK? I don't know any rational people that will assimilate the facts presented in those videos and who'll still say that 9/11 and 7/7 were terrorist acts. Yes. There are people in the world who hate us. That's beside the point. LOOK AT THE DAMN VIDEOS!!! The governments you all so blindly trust are lying to you!!!
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Lethe
Mar 31 2007, 03:35 AM
QUOTE Something tells me you and the others above your post haven't actually looked at those videos that are linked in the original post. Please don't even comment until after you've viewed those videos with an open mind. OK? I don't know any rational people that will assimilate the facts presented in those videos and who'll still say that 9/11 and 7/7 were terrorist acts. Yes. There are people in the world who hate us. That's beside the point. LOOK AT THE DAMN VIDEOS!!! The governments you all so blindly trust are lying to you!!! Exactly, but what more could you expect from americans  . I have nothing against you guys but seriously..WAKE UP. It looks like the majority of you are either asleep or downright ignorant..blindly putting trust in your leader. And yes, like you hundreds of others believed they were doing the right thing when they followed that moron. You laugh at the the ignorance of the chinese when you're equally guilty. Oh how the mighty have fallen :cry:
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Empy
Apr 10 2007, 04:45 PM
QUOTE(Saint_Michael @ Apr 9 2007, 05:52 AM)  I will admit the cellphone thing is a bit fishy due to the fact its very hard to pick up a signal beyond a cell phone tower, I tried it once  , I never got a signal whatsoever. At the first class seats in those planes, they have phones in the back of the seats, those are especially made for calling from an airplane and should work imho.
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kraizii88z
Apr 10 2007, 04:25 PM
QUOTE(Saint_Michael @ Apr 8 2007, 10:52 PM)  I will admit the cellphone thing is a bit fishy due to the fact its very hard to pick up a signal beyond a cell phone tower, I tried it once  , I never got a signal whatsoever. So what happen to the passengers that landed in cleveland? Did they have a execution squad waiting for them to silence them? Thats funny he didn't mention anything about the reasons why they landed there and taken somewhere else. The reason why the video didn't comment on what happened to the people after they left the plane in Cleveland, is because they simply don't know. In my opinion, there were either one of two things that happened -- they were met with guns or money...
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Empy
Apr 10 2007, 11:03 AM
Honestly, I don't think Bush has the power to pull off the entire 9/11 thing himself and then blame it on terrorism. Also, there are a lot of things I find fishy: 1) If it would've been Bush that planned 9-11, he would be taking a huge risk as he had to organise an extreme amount of people willing to kill thousands of their own civilians, with a lot of research being done to make sure it looked like an attack etc.. and all this for oil? Oil is important, but he could've just made some false reports on mass nuclear weapons in Iraq, would've been a lot easier. 2) If he wanted it to look like the towers were attacked by high-jacked planes, why use bombs within the WTC and why are they using evidence that it's a conspiracy with pictures of the building smoking before the plane hit and fireman telling about a large bang afterwards. Basically, the claim is that the Government: Set off a bomb before the plane hit, replaced a plane with a fake 1, hitting the WTC, set off an explosion within the basement and then just before the building collapesed, set off a bomb on the high level floors. Wouldn't it be easier to just sent in the remote controlled plane with a lot of explosives, a normal reasoning person would be very frightened that someone discovered his plot and would never create a second explosion after the plane. 3) Why blame it on Osama Bin Laden, if the plan is to attack Iraq? 4) When U.S.A. invaded Iraq, why did they blame in on the weapons of mass destruction, that way, what was the 9-11 thing good for? 5) U.S.A. attacked Afghanistan after the 9-11 event, there's no oil there. But, on the other hand, there are 2 things I don't trust. 1) The pentagon; the building with the highest security in the world, struck this easily with a passenger plane.. I think the Netherlands army should be able the United States then.. heck, Cuba could win a war. Also, the photo's there do testify that it was absolutely not a boeing. 2) The war against Iraq; it was not about weapons of mass destruction. The Dutch government stated the 3 days before the Iraq invasion that Iraq would have 10.000 litre's of Anthrax. This was based on a weapon report that was made public later. It stated that it could not be said for certain that the 8,500 litre (someone already exaderating on the 10k?  ) Iraq had claimed to have produced, had been destroyed in 1991. However, liquid anthrax has a lifespan of 3-5 years, after that it starts to break down and after 6 years, you can be quite certain it's completely harmless... wich would've been in 1997. So my point of view, the WTC, true as Bush said, the Pentagon, rather fishy, the war against Iraq, at least not because of weapons of mass destruction.
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Saint_Michael
Apr 9 2007, 03:52 AM
I have a hard time believing thes video's as well, especially the wikipedia entry, COME ON!! everyone knows wikipedia is unreliable it's not even funny. Also those explosions that were mentioned to be bombs in the third clip, is a bit off as well. Most of those mini explosions were close to when the building was collapsing so it is obvious that it was the buildings material blowing out from the collapse. I will admit the cellphone thing is a bit fishy due to the fact its very hard to pick up a signal beyond a cell phone tower, I tried it once  , I never got a signal whatsoever. So what happen to the passengers that landed in cleveland? Did they have a execution squad waiting for them to silence them? Thats funny he didn't mention anything about the reasons why they landed there and taken somewhere else. I will admit bush iand everyone who worked for him are lying somewhere. Also I found it interested that they mention 9 of those hijackers are still alive, I don't see any video's about them being interviewed that they were accused of being a terrorists. Put it like this the peace people have been striving for will never happen, regardless if this was plan or not, hundreds of thousands of people died across the world over this event and the fact that the people that deal with oil are getting richer. That why I can't wait till I am dead buried then I don't have to worry about this stuff ever again. All we know is that thanks to people with all these conspiracy theories and corrupted officials, we will never find the truth about what really happen unless someone invents a time machine and goes back and prevents this from ever happening. Personally I don't care what really happen it won't change the fact that it is to late to do anything about it, Bush is leaving the white house next year most everyone who worked with him before and after have either been fired or left. I am going to live out my life thinking about it because then I will be doing what theis whole event is about and that is fear. Yeah one day I might have to explain to my own kids why the World is messed up as it is, but that will happen when it comes to it. So that my two cents and will be somewhat the last time I talk about this.
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Burke
Apr 9 2007, 01:26 AM
okay. 911 was both aviodable and non-aviodable. Bush apparently knew about it all along, but didn't stop it because he wanted a reason to go over to the Middle-East for the oil ( Bush only sees money signs ($$$) not the lives that it cost.) and has killed thousands of people so that teh world can watch oil jump to astonishing rates. It was non-aviodable, because ti was going to happen sooner or later anywayas, when an oil-loving person becomes president and wants to make $$$, he will do whatever it takes, no matter what teh cost. Now, i support the "War on TERRORISM" but once you go after the oil and fake "nuclear bombs" then it is tiem to get oout.
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