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Aug 15 2005, 09:03 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 496 Joined: 15-March 05 Member No.: 4,538 |
Well, I think that all the religions of the world share a few similar and most important concepts! There is no religion that would try to convince that doing BAD is acctually good and vice-versa. I think the main difference is in the word that is used for some sort of divine being (god, pure good, alah, whatever u name it...) that represents the highest good to all of them. I think that a mountain is a very good example to explain how these religions are connected: There are inumerable ways to the top of the mountain and each of this ways is a certain religion but all of those paths lead to the same top and all religions basically aim at the same goal - do good, avoid evil and practice compassion - this is the basis of all the religions around the world!
What do you ppl think?? |
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Aug 15 2005, 11:44 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 370 Joined: 22-April 05 Member No.: 6,024 |
Yeah, I agree with you. They fight, there is war because of religions, but at the end...they all have the same goal: The all price, praise, honour and obey God, or whatever you want to call it.
The only bad thing about it is, they don't listen well, and they don't read the 'book' well... 'you must not honour other gods' doesn't mean: 'kill all people (even children) if they don't obey your God' That's really sad.. |
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Aug 15 2005, 05:45 PM
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Yami no Hime ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 20-October 04 From: Lalaland Member No.: 1,849 |
i think that all the religions are agree that they should be ruled by the nature law "Do Good and stay away from Evil" even thought the world "Evil" can be translated in different ways... but some differences are that most of the religions don't believe in the Virgin Marie, as a Virgin they say that she had other children because of a passage in the Bible that says "Jesus, here is your mother and brothers" or something like that, also some religions say that Jesus was only a Prophet a great prophet but not else, others don't believe in the saints, others don't have the Eucaristhic sacrament, but anyways that's the differences i've noticed
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Aug 16 2005, 12:00 AM
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Privileged Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 675 Joined: 11-September 04 Member No.: 1,079 |
Yes i agree all religion should have something about being good and not bad. Actualy my religion teaches me to kill those not of my religion. just kidding. In my dreams! I'm buddhism. I don't mind other religions. Just i hate when people tell my religion is wrong and all that. That's just rude. I believe in God and whatnot.
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Aug 16 2005, 04:52 AM
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 297 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Melbourne Australia Member No.: 9,909 |
QUOTE(Danieluchis @ Aug 16 2005, 04:45 AM) ... but some differences are that most of the religions don't believe in the Virgin Marie, as a Virgin they say that she had other children because of a passage in the Bible that says "Jesus, here is your mother and brothers" .. Only I will commet on the point of Virgin Mary and will post later in responding to the whole question of the difference between relegion First St Mary gave birth for Jesus while she is very young [14-15 years old]and she gave birth while she was engaged . So if there is brother or sister from St Mary then they were after the birth of Jesus. That the logic says So this phrase don't disturb the virign's birth. The Christianity and and Islam teaching that Jesus come without human father so reconises the Verigin's Birth. Juadism expect that coming Christ will come from virigin't birth. But it is argued that this brother and sister are not real brother and sister . May be half brother and sister all not related brother or sister. To simlify this point assume two men A and B A's biological fater is the step father for B.. But they considered brother even thogh neither their biological mother or biological father are the same. This was general case just in case you will not endoresd the following story from the history or the tradition. They tell us that Joseph the carpenter, the spouse of Mary was married and begot for himself four sons, namely, and two daughters. Now these are their names--Judas, Justus, James, and Simon. The names of the two daughters were Assia and Lydia.The wife died and Now when righteous Joseph became a widower.and St Mary, was already twelve years old. For her parents offered her in the temple when she was three years of age, and she remained in the temple of the Lord nine years. Then when the priests saw that the virgin, was growing up, they spoke to each other, saying: Let us search out a man, righteous and pious, to whom Mary may be entrusted until the time of her marriage; lest, if she remain in the temple, it happen to her as is wont to happen to women. Therefore they immediately sent out, and assembled twelve old men of the tribe of Judah. And they wrote down the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. And the lot fell upon the pious old man, righteous Joseph. Then St Mary was sent to Joseph to be with him till the time of Marriage . And Mary found young son James of Joseph very sad on account of the loss of his mother, and she brought him up. Hence Mary was called the mother of James.. And after the holy virgin had spent two years in his house her age was exactly fourteen years when she was conceived.When Joseph found virgin Mary pregnant, he thought of sending her away secretly.He could endure neither to eat nor drink that day and at mid-day there appeared to him in a dream the the angels Gabriel said to him: Joseph, son of David, fear not to take Mary as thy wife: for she has conceived of the Holy Spirit; and she will bring forth a son, whose name shall be called Jesus. ...And Joseph rose from his sleep, and did as the angel had said to him.. |
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Aug 16 2005, 07:18 PM
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Joshua ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 605 Joined: 23-June 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 8,571 |
Well, Ravi Zecharias actually writes the book Jesus Among Other Gods to show the differences between Christianity and other religions
I would say some of the differences are that Christianity says you can find eternal life through no merit of your own, it isn't about what works you can do, but about Christ's finished payment on the cross. You gain eternal life merely by repenting, trusting in Him alone, and accepting Him as Lord of your life. Another thing, it deals not with beliefs but with relationships. Christianity is not about demographics but getting in a right relationship with God through Jesus Christ and then growing in that relationship. Now for some of the stuff Ravi points out in his book. He points out that unlike almost anyone in history, Christ not only claimed to be sinless but He also challenged His greatest enemies to find any sin in Him, and they could not do it. Another thing Ravi points out is that Christ did not come to build a worldly empire but one of the hearts. It's why he said His kingdom was not of the world, and why His followers did not fight to protect Him. Even Napoleon realized this great truth, that His kingdom is one of men's souls, not of worldly armies or forces. Also, Christ could have tried to start Christianity in Egypt where He'd once lived or in Rome where they were more partial to multiple deities. But instead He chose to do so in a nation that would be more firmly opposed to the idea then perhaps any other in the world. Cries of blasphemy and attempts to stone Him were commonplace wherever He went. Ravi also points out that not only did Jesus teach or expound His message, but He was identical with the message. He not only proclaimed the truth, He claimed to be the truth. He didn't just show a way but said He was the way. Another thing, Christ didn't attribute people's circumstances to mistakes they'd made in past lives or current lives or that anyone else had made. In John 9 when asked why a man was born blind, Christ answers that it was so the work of God could be displayed in His life. Christ also associated with those society most devalued. Prostitutes loved Him because He showed them compassion and treated them with dignity, yet He utterly denounced the self-righteous. Also, the fact that He not only prophesied that He would die, but that it had been prophesied hundreds if not thousands of years before, and then that He rose from the dead while being witnessed by hundreds of witnesses, is not something emulated by any religion. Christ was not a teacher only, but reknowned as a prophet and a miracle worker by the masses. He didn't do His miracles in a corner either, nor His teachings, He did them even before the leaders of the nations. Because of this, in Acts 26:26 Paul says that even King Agrippa must know of such things, precisely because Christ did work publicly. These were not things which even the rulers could deny. Also, Christianity says that evil is real, the world is real, and time is real. Because of denials of such things other religions like Buddhism and Hinduism which teach reincarnation have some highly insurmountable problems, as Ravi points out. Here's a quote from page 122: QUOTE But above all, Buddhism faces a truly insurmountable problem. If life is cyclical and there is no beginning to the incarnations, why is there an end? How does one have an infinite regress of causes, if there is a final incarnation? Philosopher William Lane Craig reminds us that an infinite regress of causes is like trying to jump out of a bottomless pit. How do you start if you never reach the bottom? On the other hand, one might well ask, if every birth is a rebirth, what kamma was paid for in his first birth? One might also ask that if desirelessness is the ultimate nirvana, would it then be safe to say that in the first state there is not even the desire to see evil come to an end? The incredible aspect of this teaching is that the more painful one's existence, the more certain that the previous life is successfully paying its dues. So that when one picks up the body of a little child, deformed from birth, kamma is in operation. One might not wish to admit this, but that is the existential reality of this teaching. Concerning Islam, Ravi points out that the sword and warfare are an intrinsic part of the Islamic faith. In Surah 9:5 of the Koran it says to "slay and fight the idolators wherever you find theM' and says to prepare ambushes for them. This is directly opposed to the kingdom not of this world Christ spoke of, which has nothing to do with political influence or worldly military forces. Ravi points out that popular speaker Deepak Chopra whose Vedic teachings are of spirituality, success, and prosperity, has a religion with millions of devotees living in abject poverty. And so each religion must face the responsibility of answering the questions posed to it. Some other points Ravi makes: Jesus said there is one way to God, Hinduism and Bahaism don't like that. He stated God is the author of life, not something Buddhism likes. And Christ said He is the Son of God, which Islam is not too happy about. These are just a few of the points Ravi makes, maybe I'll point out some more later. |
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Aug 16 2005, 08:57 PM
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Privileged Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 822 Joined: 6-March 05 Member No.: 4,202 |
Religions can say that their goal is to love each other, to reach the highest good or whatever. But in fact, dogmatic religions (Islam, Judaism and Christianism for example) search (and fight) for the implantation of (their) faith. Their target is to gain believers and if this can be done with a war or just pissing off other religions, theyīll do. Itīs so high the level of fanatism that one believer of a dogmatic religion is supposed to know that their God is the one and only and the others are false idols. As long as nobody can asure scientifically the existence of a god, I could say that I have a god of my own and the rest of the people are doing wrong beliving in another god. And even judge them for that.
They do search for the same, but they have to be necessarily confronted to gain it. POWER. Donīt misunderstand me, I respect believers (I canīt understand them though) but I hate the hierarchical structures in which religions are organized and the way they lie and do bad things while they preach things that obviously they donīt believe. |
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Aug 16 2005, 10:26 PM
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Joshua ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 605 Joined: 23-June 05 From: Illinois Member No.: 8,571 |
QUOTE(Sprnknwn @ Aug 16 2005, 03:57 PM) Religions can say that their goal is to love each other, to reach the highest good or whatever. But in fact, dogmatic religions (Islam, Judaism and Christianism for example) search (and fight) for the implantation of (their) faith. Their target is to gain believers and if this can be done with a war or just pissing off other religions, theyīll do. Itīs so high the level of fanatism that one believer of a dogmatic religion is supposed to know that their God is the one and only and the others are false idols. As long as nobody can asure scientifically the existence of a god, I could say that I have a god of my own and the rest of the people are doing wrong beliving in another god. And even judge them for that. They do search for the same, but they have to be necessarily confronted to gain it. POWER. Donīt misunderstand me, I respect believers (I canīt understand them though) but I hate the hierarchical structures in which religions are organized and the way they lie and do bad things while they preach things that obviously they donīt believe. Judaism refuses to accept its Messiah, Jesus Christ, which is what separates it from Christianity. If it did, it would realize the passage in its own Scriptures that says vengeance is God, and He will repay, not us. Christ said to love our enemies and do good to those that persecute us. Furthermore, He clearly stated that the majority of those who call themselves His followers will be either liars or deceived when He said that "few" will find the way to life but "many" will come to Him in the last day claiming to be His only to be told they never Him. (same chapter too, Matthew 7) Christ said that by love will we know who are His disciples (John 13:35) and in Romans 13:10 it says that love is the fulfilling of the Law because it doesn't hurt others. So if we know who are His disciples by their love and love doesn't hurt others, then it would be safe to assume those who start wars and hurt others are not true followers of His, correct? Christ says that not everyone who says "Lord, Lord" to Him will enter Heaven but those that do the will of His Father in Heaven. (Matthew 7:21) QUOTE Luke 6:46 |