I have found following news very much interesting.



Read more at following page.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/scienc...icle2029276.ece

What is your opinion?

well i don't see why do you need to be a brilliant scientist to have this kind of opinion.
it's just the question of time when this planet is going to become too small for all of us to live in. either we will stop making so much babies, either we will begin to research space travel. but is it possible?

yes in star trek they have super technology which they use to travel with light speeds, but how is it possible for us to do the same thing?

we don't have warp technology, and since we can't even resolve simple problem like oil reserves, how the hell are we going to be capable of space travel?

except if some crazy scientist doesn't get serendipity and discovers new kind of engines we are doomed to this planet, and that's that.

maybe the best thing for us would be to start building large colonial ships with capacity up to 100,000 residents, and with about 2 - 10 of these colonial ships we go into space, with calculating how much time would it need for us to get to nearest M class planet (Alpha Centauri i think). Let's say we start these ships with 40,000 k colonialist, but food and rest.. i don't know.. i have no idea.

does anybody know what is the time that we need to travel to nearest M class planet?

the opinion of the great stephen hawking is not without basis, nor is it not without merit. the only way humans can survive in the future is to colonize other habitable planets, or at least make room for more without (as opposed to within) planet earth (think "halo" - the game ).

at the rate of the population growth globally, and the rate of (mostly negative) environmental impact population has over the planet earth's resources, it will be in the next millennium or two when earth will eventually wither and die.

but moving the rest of humanity (and all other species -- animal and plant life, plus the collective knowledge of generations of our specie) towards a more suitable habitat would be a huge undertaking, something which not one country alone can do on its own.

we'd all have been reduced to fertilizer ourselves (food for worms ) by then. but it would be to a good measure if we think about these things in our time for the sake of future generations. with less likelihood of success is tackling this issue of transplanetary/transgalaxy migration by devising and implementing things so that humans of the future don't have to leave dear earth instead.

One of NASA's goals is to return humans to the moon by 2020...
or at least that`s what they are saying on their site..read here
Moon is a good option, me thinks, as it is quite close (so to say ) to Earth, and maybe transportation of the materials needed would be easier ...anyway, how would they create an environment which would be suitable for human life? for example, the atmosphere...

your opinion?

This post has been edited by hts: Dec 10 2006, 06:26 PM

my thoughts: We're *BLEEP*ed right? So let's just enjoy our lives while we can.

Even if they do invent all this space travel *BLEEP*, we'll be long dead before anyone but the rich can use it... and I doubt they're any rich people on Trap17... otherwise they'd but their own server etc.

That would rock, but I guess it wont happen until another 50 years. The way technology is being developed I dont see why we couldnt do something like this. But now that I think of it, this Idea is kind of stupid right now, How the hell is the human race going to colonize other planets if it cant even take care of its own planet problems? In order for something of this magnitude to be able to happen, all the world has to unite into one, and help all the other undeveloped countries.

Well I think this will happen earlier than we think, but i think that kind of technology will be done until then.



I think that human race is going to colonize planets one after other, it seems like we dont understand how to take care of a planet and we will do the same with the planet we colonize.
Flakes have reason in that, all the world must be united, if the human race is gonna move to somewhere else, a single country would not be able to do that alone.

About the oil reserve problem someone said above, its evident that for move 6k millions of persons to other planet, will be needed unimaginable quantities of fuel, but i think that humans will find another kind of combustible that would work better than oil, something that would exist in big quantities or that can be renewable.

1. First of all the headings tell " We Must Travel To The Stars To Save The Human Race!" . It is wrong headings of the topics or the newspaper article. There is a specific definition of "Star" and stars are in the same category of our "Sun" . Our planet and eight other planet are moving around sun. Sun is a star. Every star has its planets.

2. We can not live in star as we can not live in "Sun" . In facts we can not go near the Sun even if we could travel there. Our atmosphere protect us from the the Sun and without it we can not live on the earth. I think you and the article's writer mean trying to live in one of our neighbours planets not the stars. Even Prof warned that future generations would need to leave the planet to ensure the survival of the species. He used "Planet" and didn't say "star". Only he urges to find a speedy travel mean as in science fiction "star trek" where they use to travel with light speeds.

3. I think people are confusing Science fictions with the reality. In science fiction as in wicked science there are unlimited of imagination and dream what the science can do. I think you used "travel to Star" by influence of "Star trek".

4. Until now after 60 years of space travelling man could visit moon for few hours. Moon is not a planet but a sputnik to the planet "Earth". So we have long way to travel to one f our neighbour planet.

5. We know that human can not survive without air and water so before inhabiting any of these planet you have to prove the existence of "oxygen" and air there. That why the missions now concentrate on Mars for that possibility.

6. Or may the scientists can find ways to use the resources there to generate Oxygen and water . and even they find that way it have to be cost effective. I think it is more thousands times harder than changing sea and oceans water to be drinking water to human and planting. This will change life in many places and find places to more population and produce food for them. I think it is better to concentrate on that direction .