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Dec 2 2007, 10:52 PM
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Member [Level 2] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 78 Joined: 2-December 07 Member No.: 54,073 |
I recentlly had a conversation with a friend over which he prefered a turbo or a supercharger.
Now for people who dont know a turbo has lag and the air preasure has to build up where as a supercharger would off a belt therefore there is no lag becuase it is constanly spinning. That is the basics. What do people think? also sorry if im a bit vague but im unsure on and unclear on the hole subject aswel. Thanks QUOTE Magic AKA nathan |
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Dec 3 2007, 02:11 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 131 Joined: 1-February 07 Member No.: 38,108 |
Supercharger? i thought this is only in need for speed game
will i don't know really any care that use Supercharger in my place not even after 5 moor years hop you can explain moor thanks |
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Dec 3 2007, 06:20 AM
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Privileged Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 531 Joined: 12-January 07 From: Rocky Mountains, south of Banff National Park Member No.: 37,065 ![]() |
Hope you can learn to use spell check!
My limited understanding of this topic is this: (in simple terms) A supercharger uses more energy from the engine resulting in lower MPG and is ultimately the larger air compressor of the two giving you the best 1/4 mile, but that's only for racing, not for everyday driving. Even though GM and others have incorporated this method of air compression in their vehicles from the factory, it doesn't seem to have caught on as turbos have. A turbo charger can be more or less simple depending upon your budget and you can even use two; one with a smaller vane and one with the larger one. The smaller vane will spin up quickly and the driver should realize little if any "turbo lag" while the larger vane will take some time to fully spin up but will be capable of much higher air pressure. There is also the option of the expensive VGT or Variable Geometry Turbine which adjusts the pitch of the blades depending upon RPMs starting small like the first option, then backing off for higher air flow like the second option. (It's the same concept of a variable pitch prop a single engine prop airplane uses; the prop is positioned to cut into the air more aggressively when taking off or when more thrust is needed, and flattens out when higher speeds at cruising altitude are needed.) This is the best of both worlds. While you're just tooling around or idling, these two devises really don't use any extra fuel, thus they are the more fuel efficient of the two methods of compressing air to increase the virtual size of your engine without actually having to stuff an entire 6.8L hemi under the hood. Hope this helps. This post has been edited by Watermonkey: Dec 25 2007, 06:28 AM |
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Dec 3 2007, 02:51 PM
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Member [Level 2] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 78 Joined: 2-December 07 Member No.: 54,073 |
Thanks for the replies and yes it does help
I was unsure about what the difference was but now that you have explained it in a bit more detail i think i understand it a bit better. Thanks and does anyone else have anything they can throw into the pan??? Thanks Magic |
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Dec 3 2007, 04:19 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 148 Joined: 24-October 07 Member No.: 51,939 |
well, it also depends on the car and what your using it for, in my opinion.
if you have a tuner car (ie a lancer or 350z or something like that) i would go for the turbo, unless you are racing it for lots of money, then go for the supercharger. if you have a muscle car (ie mustang or camaro) supercharger period. if you have a high-end import, it depends on the use and the kind. turbos are helpful in some ways, while superchargers in others. |
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Dec 6 2007, 02:58 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 5-September 07 From: Location Known Member No.: 49,444 |
Well Probally not Turbo because sometimes it makes u go too fast and your manifold comes off so it would have to be Supercharger.
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Mar 27 2008, 11:58 AM
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Newbie [Level 2] ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 27-March 08 Member No.: 59,903 |
mercedes kompressors have superchargers (that is spelt right)
i am not really too sure about it i do not know much about them other than turbo causes lag |
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May 12 2008, 04:31 PM
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Newbie [Level 1] ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 22 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 61,767 |
if all your concerned about is power, then a supercharger is the way to go. it has no lag, because it is run off of a belt and there fore directly from the engine.... it will produce something like a 5% or greater increase in the cars power. -- the MAJOR downside of superchargers today is that they slaughter your gas mileage because the engine actually has to work harder to turn the extra belt on start up and when the supercharger isnt in use.
if you want the extra power of a supercharger, but not the negative effects on your gas mileage, turbochargers are much better. turbochargers are NOT connected to the engine by a belt to run them... instead, they are looped into the exaust system (usually on top of the header or exaust manifold) and they rely on pressure from the exaust to power them... this means that you have a lag time between start up and when it builds up enough pressure to work... besides this, there are no other negative effects of a turbocharger on an engine unless you consider extra power and speed a negative effect! |
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May 12 2008, 10:45 PM
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Newbie [Level 3] ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: [HOSTED] Posts: 49 Joined: 19-April 08 Member No.: 60,997 |
It really depends. Yes supercharger's give instant boosts, but they tend to put more strain on the motor, which eventually leads to more maintenense for the car than a turbo would. Turbo's are pretty much free power because they are driven by the exhaust. For example, the Evo XIII comes stock with 4G63 turbo. Swapping that with a supercharger wouldn't give as much power as the stock turbo would. Also, it has come to my attention that many imports use turbo's and many of the american muscle cars use supercharger. Muscle cars are good for drag, so having more power for speed would make the car must fast off the snap.
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