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> A True Religion?, A religion that has scientific facts in its scriptures
sweet_princess
post Apr 25 2007, 05:34 PM
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You might have heard a lot of people going on about how their religion is true but I'm not going to rant on about anything, I'm just going to tell you the straight-forward facts.
The Qur'an has many scientific truths that have only been proven to be correct recently. This is truely a miracle in my eyes, so please go on to this website and read about 'em now!
http://www.islam-guide.com/
If you don't agree with me (which I doubt you will), don't worry, I'm not going to kill you


Some facts about Islam:
The Qur'an says that The Torah was written by Prophet Moses, but the scripture was only made for the people of that time and community, same for the Bible, it was a true book but was only meant for a particular group, and the Bible has been changed by humans, and now we'll never know what the original message was.
Then God finally sent down a last prophet with a last message which is meant to last for all eternity. God promised us that one word of the Qur'an will never change until the last day of the world (and even after that), and that promise has surly been fulfilled.
Islam also teaches us equality and forbids racism and slavery, Prophet Muhammad said that no white man is superior to a black man and vice versa. Muhammad (peace be upon him) had an african friend who was disliked by the people around him, but this hatred ended when Muhammad told everyone that they shouldn't treat him badly because they were true brothers. Sweet or what?
Islam also frowns upon war and violence (don't consider bin laden, they're just freaks who call themselves muslims. It the freaks you should be scared of, not the muslims)
Islam also says that Jesus will return one day, when the world will be coming to an end, and muslims are waiting!
Well those were just a few facts, remember to go on that website please!

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post Apr 25 2007, 10:43 PM
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Got any info about the oldest religion on Earth ?
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post Apr 25 2007, 11:05 PM
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A lot of religion has some truths to it - that's what makes them believable. If people made up a religion that didn't have some truth to it and was totally incomprehinsible there would be no followers and not many would ever hear about it. Though the 'true religion' could actually have been one of those.

According to NewScientist an aboriginal peoples of Australia have the oldest religion on Earth. They say this cause supposedly they found some cave paintings that are around 6,000 years old. The top hit on Google says Hinduism is the oldest religion, still others say witchcraft. Yahoo! Answers says Zoroastrianism (a religion once practiced by today's Iranians) is the oldest religion which began around 1000 BC. Though it says this religion is monotheistic, and I thought the first religions were polytheistic.
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post Apr 26 2007, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE(sweet_princess @ Apr 25 2007, 01:34 PM) *
...and the Bible has been changed by humans...

And how do we know that? Simple, because we have found more reliable copies—the ones without human interference—which provide the true message, and which the current and up-to-date Bible translations are based on. wink.gif

QUOTE(sweet_princess @ Apr 25 2007, 01:34 PM) *
God promised us that one word of the Qur'an will never change until the last day of the world (and even after that), and that promise has surly been fulfilled.

Which one word is that? wink.gif
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post Apr 26 2007, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(truefusion @ Apr 25 2007, 11:52 PM) *
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...and the Bible has been changed by humans...

And how do we know that? Simple, because we have found more reliable copies—the ones without human interference—which provide the true message, and which the current and up-to-date Bible translations are based on. wink.gif


The Bible wasn't just changed by humans, it was written by humans. See the fallacy?

Do you know when humans were first on this Earth? Not seven days after the Earth was here. smile.gif

Lots of talk of God, though who here has ever talked to him? If you say you do nowadays you're automatically labeled as crazy! Wonder why.. hmm. rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 26 2007, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(Smack)
it was written by humans. See the fallacy?


It was meant to be written by humans who were just copying God's word.

QUOTE(Smack)
Do you know when humans were first on this Earth? Not seven days after the Earth was here.


10. Often, days. a particular time or period


Not all days are 24hrs long.

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Lots of talk of God, though who here has ever talked to him? If you say you do nowadays you're automatically labeled as crazy! Wonder why.. hmm.


Isn't prayer the communication between man and God - or talking to him?
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post Apr 26 2007, 04:22 PM
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"Prayer" is just talking to yourself and having faith that a higher power is listening. I know that all days are not 24 hours long because a day depends on the amount of time it takes a body to orbit a star - duh. And the writers of the gospel were possessed by the holy spirit to write down God's true words. Yes I know all the opposite "truths" to this argument cause I am an informed educated person that was raised Christian and I have openly debated these things with friends and people in the Church. However when it comes down to all religions you have to rely on this little thing called faith. Also there are many stories in the Bible that are remakes of older stories. smile.gif ...Just ask your English professor.
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post Apr 27 2007, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(Smack @ Apr 26 2007, 09:16 AM) *
The Bible wasn't just changed by humans, it was written by humans. See the fallacy?
QUOTE(Smack @ Apr 26 2007, 12:22 PM) *
And the writers of the gospel were possessed by the holy spirit to write down God's true words.

smile.gif wink.gif (I hope you understand my implication.)


QUOTE(Smack @ Apr 26 2007, 12:22 PM) *
"Prayer" is just talking to yourself and having faith that a higher power is listening.

What then when a prayer is fulfilled? But let's go in further: Would it have happened if you didn't pray for it?

QUOTE(Smack @ Apr 26 2007, 12:22 PM) *
[1]I am an informed educated person that was raised Christian and [2]I have openly debated these things with friends and people in the Church.

[1]Are you implying that none of us believers are informed and or educated as well?
[2]Not everyone knows the same things. Some people go to church just to go or say that they went. And of course you know church isn't all about learning Scripture, it is also there for gaining hope and praising and singing in unity, etc.

Everything i've heard being preached in church i already knew. Perhaps you would like to debate your opposite "truths" here? It is, after all, a fitting topic. smile.gif

QUOTE(Smack @ Apr 26 2007, 12:22 PM) *
...Just ask your English professor.

So we could ask any, even one who is known to be an unbeliever? Could the "facts" then be biased?
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