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Matrixdudej
post Dec 8 2006, 09:45 PM
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Einstein once proved time travel impossible but never said anything about time viewing i bielive so i posted this to see if anyone has opinions i can feed off of about either
a)do you think time viewing will ever be possible and if so your theory
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b)do you not agree with Einstein and think time travel wil one day be possible and if so your theory
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post Dec 8 2006, 11:36 PM
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What do you mean time viewing? Do you mean seeing them like we can see sound waves or such?
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post Dec 9 2006, 12:18 AM
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i mean seeing into time like past or future
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post Dec 9 2006, 01:37 AM
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Well Albert Einstein can be wrong, Aristotle was wrong and even people today are proved wrong. I am not gonna rule out either time travel or viewing. Maybe not in our time but maybe in future generations. But you know it still could be sort of hard to go back in time, I am not sure how in the world you'd be able to do that. It could take years and years of research. Plus if you go back in time you might not come back so maybe not. As for viewing, I sort of doubt it because that'd mean you'd have to go back in time to view it. Plus how would you view it? Unless they can find memories in your brain that you don't actually remember but is like in the recycle bin or you don't think about normally. But other than that, you have video cameras.
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post Dec 9 2006, 09:40 AM
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The problem with time travel is the time travel paradox. Time travel relies on every millisecond of existence being constantly replayed in a time dimension, which we could then move to and run through the points making time appear to pass. Well, if you go back in time and kill one of your ancestors and break the chain of events leading to your own birth then it would not be possible for you to go back in time and kill them (as you would never have existed) which would cause your ancestors to survive and carry on as normal, leading to your birth and therefore the murder... ad infinitum.

Attempts have been made to explain this, such as stating that you can't change the past or future. This also then implies that we all have no effect or influence on the world at all and all our actions are predetermined. Hence, this destroys theories of free will. It also implicates that if we do develop time travel, that would have been predetermined, along with anyone travelling backwards and forwards through time. Therefore we would already have records of time travel before it existed, plus the same people would keep popping up throughout history for hundreds or thousands of years.

Viewing is not so difficult as we can already make records with video cameras, photos, etc. as Plenoptic said. Viewing into the future would be a little more difficult depending on your perceptions of time as linear, circular, pre determined, random... Until we know exactly what time is and how to explain it, it makes it very difficult to say whether it would be possible.
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post Dec 9 2006, 09:47 AM
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Well this is highly doubtful in this time, but you never know.
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Attempts have been made to explain this, such as stating that you can't change the past or future. This also then implies that we all have no effect or influence on the world at all and all our actions are predetermined. Hence, this destroys theories of free will. It also implicates that if we do develop time travel, that would have been predetermined, along with anyone travelling backwards and forwards through time. Therefore we would already have records of time travel before it existed, plus the same people would keep popping up throughout history for hundreds or thousands of years.


This is an excellent explanation! I never thought about it, but yes We would already know because of how you explained it. Where to you read about this?
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post Dec 9 2006, 01:34 PM
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If you did manage to see millions of years in the future, it would be extremely hard for you to understand the need of what they have. Imagine taking a stone-age person into the 21st century and trying to explain the internet to him. Impossible. The same would apply for you travelling into the depths of the future, not to mention the language barrier. These are a few lines from a 13th century poem:

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Bulluc stereth, bucke vereth



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The problem with time travel is the time travel paradox. Time travel relies on every millisecond of existence being constantly replayed in a time dimension, which we could then move to and run through the points making time appear to pass. Well, if you go back in time and kill one of your ancestors and break the chain of events leading to your own birth then it would not be possible for you to go back in time and kill them (as you would never have existed) which would cause your ancestors to survive and carry on as normal, leading to your birth and therefore the murder... ad infinitum.


I never though about it like that! Such a logical way to disprove time travel!

Time viewing must be possible. Someone could be watching you right now. We developed so many new inventions in the last two hundred years, thousands of years from now time viewing will be invented.
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post Dec 9 2006, 04:56 PM
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I'm pretty sure we won't be having controlled time travel anytime soon. As for time viewing, I'd like to invoke my right to paranormal belief. It might be possible that premonitions and precognitive dreams are one way to achieve time viewing without necessarily "going" to another time. I'm not sure how this can be done voluntarily, though.

The RPG game Final Fantasy 8, however, did come up with an idea for "Ellone Machine", a mechanism that sends its user's consciousness back into a past person's mind, only, there is still a limit how far back a user can go.

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post Dec 9 2006, 05:38 PM
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As far as I know, the Einstein theory about time is about relativity (time delation). That is, if you travel with near-the -speed of light, you will experience slower time than others will outside your system/frame (your spaceship or whatsoever). It's just when you go back, everything has changed, faster than you changed. For example, if I go away from earth with speed near the speed of light, then go back, perhaps I only feel a short time of journey, but in the earth time has passed so much more than I feel.

IMO, no one will invent such a time travel or time viewing machine. The thing that is possible is that you go to the future but never come back again to the present time. Then, you will live in future of course. For time viewing, perhaps you can send something to observe the future, but how to send the message back? I don't know whether electromagnetic wave experience some sort of time travelling.

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Well, if you go back in time and kill one of your ancestors and break the chain of events leading to your own birth then it would not be possible for you to go back in time and kill them (as you would never have existed) which would cause your ancestors to survive and carry on as normal, leading to your birth and therefore