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amirborna
post Jun 14 2008, 07:59 AM
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I cannot wait till this day biggrin.gif

I cannot wait till December 31, 2012 !!

2 things can happen, both are good

1. The world ends, I go to God
2. The world doesn't end, all religious people question their belief / become athiest

tongue.gif I can't wait really. I will DEFINATELYYYYYY buy a camcorder HD with many hours of recording to record this event

I have a question for all you religious people

Lets say today is January 1, 2013, and we are all still alive, what would you to explain doomsday? LET me guess :
JESUS SAVED US!!!

No really what would you say. In the bible / mayan calander and all that says the world is goign to end, so I want to know what you guys think about this.
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post Jun 14 2008, 08:25 AM
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Where did you get this information from? I really never heard that doomsday is on December 31, 2012, not in the bible nor in the Qur'an! God never set a specific day for when the world ends and all this stuff. Yes, God talk about what would happen on doomsday in details, but never mentioned a specific date. So on December 31, 2012 the world might end and it would doomsday, or it might have ended before that date, or it might be yet another day and nothing would be any different. So if on December 31, 2012 the world didn't end, that wouldn't mean that there's no God and no doomsday and hell and heaven and all this stuff...

But anyway, give me a link to your reference about this information, I'd really like to know where you get your ideas from... or is it YouTube videos again...? wink.gif
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amirborna
post Jun 14 2008, 08:37 AM
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December 31, 2012 I'm saying because it's last day of 2012

the Bible does give signs so you can know Armageddon is near, and a last-day Bible code outlines the EXACT boundaries of the cosmic conflict that the mayans did

they also say december 21 and 21 and some others too

Rest assure I DO NOT BELIEVE IN THIS
I just want to let you know what u guys think

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post Jun 14 2008, 09:06 AM
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lol the bible gives signs? and you understood those signs and assumed that your interpretations are correct and then said that this is what "WE (believers)" think? dude! first of all, we do not think that Armageddon is on December 31, 2012 and there isn't any believer that thinks so! What we believe in is that God did not give a specific date for Armageddon and everything else is nothing but prophecies that could be true and could be untrue. But don't you allow yourself to talk on behalf of people who totally disagree with you and then say that this is what THEY think although it is totally not the case, because this is nothing but PROPAGANDA! My advice to you is to read and read and read about Islam and Christianity from the SOURCES (Christianity: the Bible ; Islam: the Qur'an and Hadith)... then read the books of great religion men whether Muslims or Christians because those are specialists in interpreting Qur'anic scripts and/or Biblical scripts. While those who go on YouTube acting as if they know everything while they actually do not understand anything, and unfortunately they find people like you who buy their words and adopt it as if it were the ultimate truth!

Man you said that you were once a Muslim, but I can clearly notice that you knew nothing about Islam and that's probably why you quit being a Muslim and became an atheist. So again, I advise you to READ the sources and explanations/interpretations of specialists, and not listen to YouTube videos and reading opinions of people who are not specialized in religious issues.
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post Jun 14 2008, 03:58 PM
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Well how are you going to tell me what God told me huh???
Tell me what you think, because clearly God told me it will happen...In my sleep so yeah
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post Jun 14 2008, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(amirborna @ Jun 14 2008, 11:58 AM) *
Well how are you going to tell me what God told me huh???
Tell me what you think, because clearly God told me it will happen...In my sleep so yeah

This is probably the best relative verse against your statement: Jeremiah 23:30-32.

By the way, the Mayan Calendar has no relation to the Abrahamic Religions. Neither 1 nor 2 in your first post will occur. No one will make up excuses on why the world didn't end on the last day of the Mayan Calendar that relate to Jesus. Many people don't even know about the Mayan Calendar. As Striker9 said, there is no set time mentioned in either the Bible or the Qur'an. What the Bible says concerning the last day is that God is very patient and that the last day will come like a theif.
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post Jun 14 2008, 04:57 PM
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Oh ok....never mind then.
Go to my other thread about Debate of your religion plz
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post Jun 14 2008, 05:42 PM
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Man you're attacking god and Christian beliefs all over this forum.

Firstly mayan calendar doesn't have connections to the Christian calendar except when they have translated it into Gregorian calendar.

The other thing regarding biblical prophecy in bible there is very low number of dates present and furthermore many dates are written in the units that are not used today so determining exact day is really hard from bible even the start of the world is hard to find though there are quite precise, on that one. The point is that most of the old calendars haven't used time shifts every 4 year and similar things that we are accustomed today and because of that it is highly improbable to stick some real date to some real date and event.

The other thing is that in the Hebrew they used sometimes years to describe how smart, intelligent or wise person is in fact.

So let's say someone would say I am 30 years old in Hebrew meanwhile I have 40 or 20 it doesn't matter. But in comparison they would say you (Amir) are 2 years old no matter you have 17 years.
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post Jun 14 2008, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(amirborna @ Jun 14 2008, 06:58 PM) *
Well how are you going to tell me what God told me huh???
Tell me what you think, because clearly God told me it will happen...In my sleep so yeah


Well, if God told you so then you gotta believe that there's a God... and since got actually told you something in your sleep then you gotta be someone extremely special because God bothered to actually pay you a visit in your sleep... don't you think? pfffffttttt! Dude, take things seriously, and instead of acting silly whenever you cannot face logic and facts, either admit that you are wrong or try to provide us with logical thinking and facts... because no matter how much you try to make fun of our beliefs, that won't chang