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Goosestaf
post Mar 31 2006, 06:27 PM
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Simple really,
Tell me why i should believe in a God. . . and that means any religion.

Tell me why believing in a religion and a god will improve my life.

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and no bashing/questioning other beliefs please. . . .. i will report any posts of such manner.
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truefusion
post Mar 31 2006, 07:21 PM
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Although, i, for one, cant mention all the reasons why you should believe in God. I will try to mention some. But, believing in something doesnt mean you'll like it. But, all i can say is, look at the facts, and try not to reject them. Study, question, answer, and keep the good.

But, i must say, Albert Einstein, was an atheist. He would try his best to have his work prove that there is no God. Everytime he did, he found himself troubled by his work. He kept making things complicated for himself. After a long trial, he finally convinced himself that there has to be some kind of god. Though, he didnt choose the one from the Bible. But, rather, a human god.

Assuredly, i say to you, you dont have to believe to be saved. Those that know the law, will be judged by the law. Those that dont, will be judged without it. Meaning, if you have your own rules, you'll be judged on how well you have followed your own rules. If you think cursing someone out is bad, but, yet, you do it "under your breath", behind their backs, or when they're not around. Then, you have broken your own rule.

I, for one, cannot convince you to follow in some of the paths i take, cause it's you who takes the first step, in order to follow. I can only lead the way. If you do not understand something that we say. Question it, and we'll try to answer it, the best way we know how. Clearing up ignorance is the best way to understand something to its fullest.

You think i became a believer cause people forced me into it? Assuredly, i say to you, i, myself, have questioned the religion i now speak of. I questioned with the same questions you'd expect to hear from non-believers. I found the answers. Such answers is what made me believe.

I didnt realise what true happiness was, until i felt it. I thought that the happiness i had was some form of true happiness. But, i ask you, can true happiness be brought down? I will answer with, no. Nothing can ruin true happiness. Not even if the person you hate the most starts talking to you, about stuff that you hate.

Mind you, i've only had a taste of true happiness. It lasted for a whole day. Nothing ruined such a thing. It happened on the day after i repented for my sins. I believe it was something God was informing me of, of such a thing you'd find in Heaven. If so, then there is nothing to do, but to listen to what God said for us to be doing, in order to gain such happiness again.

Mind you, i'm not in this just for myself. That's why i mention these things to others, so they can experience what i have experienced. Unfortunately, some people dont end up believing until after God has saved them from something. And even then, it takes them some time to believe. Believe me, you'll be saved by faith.

In conclusion, it is not me that makes you believe, but you yourself. If you want some "leads", then all i can say is, refer to the Bible. NIV, to be more exact.

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post Mar 31 2006, 08:04 PM
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very good points.

I totatlly agree that some people will only find true faith after they've expereinced some spirituality.

I was a typical child, raised and brought up to be christian (church of england).
I did it because i was told too.
I don't know what made me start doubting the faith which i took for granted, but after a while i stopped declaring myself as christian and no longer carred for faith.

There have been momments in my life where i've just lost the will to live and not carred for much. I've sometimes even considered taking up faith again to give my life more meaning through dark times.
I even set foot in a church once with a few new friends, but could not deal with it so i left.

In my time of need an answer has always found me . . . .. if i was religious i would preach faith being the cause, but i've found secuirty in Fate.

Maybe faith would improve my life, maybe it wouldn't. I might find faith later in life . . .

Thanks for your input TrueFusion. much apprechiated
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post Mar 31 2006, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(Goosestaf @ Mar 31 2006, 03:04 PM) *
Maybe faith would improve my life, maybe it wouldn't. I might find faith later in life . . .

Would you believe it took me 20 years to actually start believing the way i do now? I am 20 years of age, now. And NOW it's when i'm actually involved. Funny on how the good comes after the bad.
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post Mar 31 2006, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(truefusion @ Mar 31 2006, 09:37 PM) *

Would you believe it took me 20 years to actually start believing the way i do now? I am 20 years of age, now. And NOW it's when i'm actually involved. Funny on how the good comes after the bad.


yup, i do believe it, you can find faith at any age and at anytime in your life.

How did you find faith. . . . if its personal then don't worry about the question, or if u wud prefere privacy, u can PM me.
Just interested is all.
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post Mar 31 2006, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE(truefusion @ Mar 31 2006, 02:37 PM) *

Would you believe it took me 20 years to actually start believing the way i do now? I am 20 years of age, now. And NOW it's when i'm actually involved. Funny on how the good comes after the bad.


well i will never tell anyone why they should believe or have faith unless i had all the facts myself to preach or teach. i believe there is something more out there, a higher power. i also believe there is ALOT more out there that we have just started to uncover. i can say this though. i don't believe any one religion has the path to the truth. i believe all relgions have something to offer as far as the truth and what should be believed so i don't believe in any 1 religion. i was raised pres. christian but over time came to mold my beliefs in to what they are today.

now is there a "god" that is constantly referred to in the bible? well, i don't know, but if i were to guess, i would say no because heck...there could be more than 1 god or higher power. i don't like to use "higher power" because i am explaining something more great than you or i. i also don't like to use the term "god" because it a god is something you normally worship. my belief comes from something more spiritual were this higher power and i are connected and we are of the same energy and life force. why i also believe we all have a lot to offer this world.

jesus sacrificed. we all sacrifice. someone already stated that the bad comes before the good. when the good has come out of the bad, it means you sacrificed a little part of who you were at the time to get to where you are. now it's true. we need the bad in this world to grow. we need those learning experiences to be stronger...and believe me they make you stronger if you hang in there with what is RIGHT because the right way is usually the harder path.

i don't like to teach about god or higher power. these are just my beliefs. i do believe that good morals and values need to be taught and they can be taught without believing in the bible or a higher power. i believe if you just live your life with good morals and values, you are one step ahead of all those who don't.

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post Mar 31 2006, 11:55 PM
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QUOTE(Goosestaf @ Mar 31 2006, 04:44 PM) *
How did you find faith. . . . if its personal then don't worry about the question, or if u wud prefere privacy, u can PM me.

To tell you the truth, it's nothing to be hiding. Though, i'd rather not call myself to be of a religion, I'll just state, my beliefs lean towards Christianity, since they tend to take the whole Bible into consideration, like i do. So, i'll quote Jesus,
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"If you are ashamed of me before man, then i'll be ashamed of you before God"
That may not be the exact quote, word-for-word, but it means the same thing.

But, what made me believe was the fact that all my questions got answered, and many more i didnt even know could be asked! Most of the answers came straight from the Bible. I just didnt understand the Bible the way i do now. Which is why it made me become ignorant. That's why i would question, to find some truth in all of this.

The other answers came straight from science! Many of you may think, that's not possible. But, for those who think so, they could just be ignorant like I was. Mind you, science and religion does mix. Religion and politics does not. I will even quote Albert Einstein,
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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."


Now, where did i find this information that uses science to prove the existence of God? Well, i found a website that does just that, and even references back to the science journals/articles. The website is: God & Science.

Hope this helps.
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post Apr 1 2006, 12:11 PM
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If creativity and free will is field, then faith and god are fence of that field.
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