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Sep 19 2006, 11:46 AM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 5-August 06 From: Rome (born only) Member No.: 27,852 |
I'm listenning all these new about islam and terrorism.
So I think that in order to talk about something I have to know it. That is why with an Objective spirit I read the Coran. Now I know all the history of that book, and I know the life of the person who worte it. I have to say only 1 think as conclusion: the Islam religion is a fanatic group as their profet was. The first that came and says that not all muslemims are extremistes, I will invite him to read their Corane, and judje, what it says. The basis of the Islam religion, is the supremacy of muslemins and all others,, have to die. And it is not a joke as you can see 11 September was not a joke!! Sencond and last think I want to say is: Do you think that Media (arab media) have to reed the all speech of the pope??? I read it and it is not so offensive I think. Even because is a teological lession, and thoese sentences wasn't from him. (read here the speech: Click here) |
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Sep 19 2006, 07:54 PM
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Member [Level 2] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 9-September 06 Member No.: 29,699 |
It's is wrong for you to say Islam and Prophet is extreme and fanatic.
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Sep 19 2006, 09:37 PM
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EVIL CORN! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 617 Joined: 7-May 06 From: USA Member No.: 23,230 ![]() |
Well, there are many different types of Islam. Some I can agree with you that they are wrong. Some Islams just seem like they want to kill people, but this isn't a vast majority. Overall, most Islams are good people and have the right to worship who they want.
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Sep 19 2006, 09:41 PM
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Privileged Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 629 Joined: 26-February 05 Member No.: 3,995 |
Is this a joke? You obviously know nothing about Islam. Calling every Muslim a fanatic is like calling every Christian an *BLEEP*. Some are, sure, but the vast majority aren't. All the Muslims I know are very nice people.
And Islam doesn't say that everyone who isn't Muslim should die. It specifically states that only aggressors against the religion are to be attacked, and no action should be taken against innocents. |
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Sep 19 2006, 09:45 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 13-July 06 Member No.: 26,551 |
Yes, yes, you are entirely right, as is almost every other religion that participated in the crusade, as for your reasoning, I think I might disagree, to generalize ANYONE in that way is entirely wrong and a horrible thing to do.
In any religion people have religious convictions, but to say anyone who practices a faith loves to go around ramming planes intop buildings is pretty harsh... And on an unrelated side-note, I thought Coran was the French interpretation of the word? Qur'an? EDIT: Just to clarify the crusade thingy I mean people participating in it, not the current day members of those religions. This post has been edited by Voidless_Shadows: Sep 19 2006, 09:51 PM |
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Sep 24 2006, 06:49 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 104 Joined: 8-September 06 From: London Member No.: 29,637 |
Excuse me, but I am a Muslim (it's spelt like that) and no matter how many times I say that Islam comes from the root word "peace", no one will ever take my words as a perception, in fact, the more I say it, the more people begin to hate Islam...Read the Qur'an and UNDERSTAND the miracles of it. That is my only advice, I would like to end my reply with a quotation from the Glorious Qur'an,
QUOTE "This Book is not to be doubted.... As for the unbelievers, it is the same whether or not you forewarn them; they will not have faith. God has set a seal upon their Intelligence; their sight is dimmed and grievous punishment awaits them." Surah Al-Baqarah, Chapter 2, Ayah (Verse) 2-6 Allah Subhanu Wa Ta'la is saying that even if our prophet warns you about the sins you are doing, you will never percept because Allah says there is a seal on your intelligence...Doesn't that make you think? Listen to me brother/sister, I am a Muslim and you should have no reason in being afraid, hating or doing anything unpleasant to me because I will not judge you by your colour, religion or your looks because I am a Muslim, I will not start war with you because I am a Muslim, and because I am a Muslim, I only want peace to prevail. Ask me about the miracles of the Holy Qur'an, and you will be amazed. |
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Sep 24 2006, 07:20 PM
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Premium Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 162 Joined: 15-September 06 Member No.: 30,010 |
Islamic people are no different than people of any other religion ,every religion have good as well as bad people,though i am not muslim but i have many muslim friends ,so i could say that they are also normal people like us,as for the bad part i'll say didn't christian churches burned some people alive years ago,but that doesn't mean every christian was bad ,you might have read the coran but do you know that coran was the orignal one not the one translated by a non-islamic.i agree that there is too much voilence going due to islamic people but that would be more and more increased ,because of the way we are dealing,if they kill 5 ,we kill 10 then whats the difference b/w the terrorists and the good.The only philosophy which will ensure that we all win is to use mahatma gandhiji's policy,create compassion for the attackers ,help them solve their economic problems so no teenage goes to become a terrorist because of poverty,try to create economic equality between the first world and third world countries,i know it sound dumb,but i feel this is the only guaranteed way of keeping peace in the world.though it would take a lot of paitence earlier
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Sep 25 2006, 03:57 AM
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Newbie [Level 3] ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 40 Joined: 22-September 06 Member No.: 30,387 |
i really have no idea what you guys are being taught by your country? why fear the muslims? do you think religion was the cause of the 9-11?
(after re-reading my post, i must admit it sounds arrogant This post has been edited by franz see: Sep 25 2006, 07:00 AM |
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Sep 25 2006, 10:06 AM
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Member [Level 1] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 70 Joined: 5-August 06 From: Rome (born only) Member No.: 27,852 |
HI everyone. please note that I wasn't saying anything agains muslemin, or I didn't want to. I just wanted to say that Islam as religion, have a natural inclination to violence. And, as consequences, the more religius you are, more extremist you are.... and please note that the coran says: QUOTE "And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. " and also: QUOTE "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): so take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (from what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks. " |