OK. Religion is a very questionable topic. Because EVERYONE seems to get incredibly offended by it. This brings me on to my first topic. Why the hell is everyone so hooked up on religion? I mean. If you say something bad to someone. And its about say. Their fashion sense. It's what they think look good so they'll be like. I see you disagree but I'm entitled to my own opinion ^.^. You are all like ^.^ okay then =D everyones fine. If you say, I think your religion is ridiculous and implausible they'll probably report you for racism, maybe cry, possibly never speak to you ever again. Why is it that people treat religion so much more seriously than everything else.

Also another double standard is that priests seem to know everything about everything. Ok so theres an enormous earthquake and like 300,000 people die D: Everyone goes all emo and the scientists and geologists and other people that have been well educated in this field. OK so the news team goes to talk about the lovely people in white coats about what caused the earthquake. Bonny ^.^ Then they go ask a priest what he makes of it...


Wait...

WHAT?

Yeah, I was watching an actual newsflash about an earthquake in some place I'd never heard of and they ask a priest what he thinks of the disaster. And he's like:

It is punishment from god. Those people must have been sinners and deserved to die.

I was sitting at my TV just like D: WHAT DID HE JSUT SAY!?

Why did they even ask him! He clearly knows nothing about why earthquakes happen and is just rambling about his beliefs. Why are his opinions. Yes that's what they are, opinions. Better than everyone elses?? I quote Thomas Jefferson when I say "A proffessorship of theology should have no place in this instituion" He's right. Just cos someone has some belief thats totally diifferent to most other people makes him no expert in this field!

I'm not going to start a religious debate on whether or not god exists. This isn't the place for it. I just think religion is totally overexaggerated. Whos with me.

Being an expert only makes you an expert in your field. That applies to any side quite well, I think.

I agree with you there, however, religion doesn't preach that. If the priest thinks so, fine, but my moral values and teachings say otherwise (and I'm religious also).


Some places it is, others it's not. I agree that being arrogant because you're religious is wrong, but I myself don't think I am and I haven't met many people who are. I just happen to think that it's important to realize other points of view and if they're different doesn't mean the other person is the devil.

Bottom line: I think it's ok to disagree, but if you declare someone wrong because they disagree with you upon the kind of topics this post is about, then that's just stupid.

This post has been edited by dre: Dec 12 2007, 05:58 AM

Okay, first of all, if you are hating on someone else's religion, you are not racist unless the person's mother is jewish, and that person is a practicing Jew. Yes, i know it's confuzing, go read some books on the holocaust, it should clear some things up. And I don't care what anyone has to say about my religon or anyone else's. It is my own damn opinion and they can get over themselfs.

The thing that bothers me is that it is not acceptable to have a bible club on school campus, but if were a torah, Koran, (insert your religious book her) club, it would be all good. That's not fair. That's the problem.

And as for the fashion thing: I would be quite offended if someone said I looked bad. A man obviously wrote this post, because men typically don't care what other's think, unlike women (or so I think- I am not a man so I don't know.)

Ahhhhhhhh, I see where you're going with this. Have you noticed that the only religious figures you're using, are, infact, Christians? Just saying. . .

Anywho, nobody ever asks the Priest here anymore, but then again, I live fat in the middle of Christian conservitive Texas. . .



Hahaha, that's what I am thinking.

Well, I, too, wonder why they always ask the preacher guy, it is beyond me. But keep in mind most of the people who run the media like that are phsyco liberals who want to make conservitive Christians look stupid-licious.

Just ignore it



That brings up the whole, why does the media try to ask anyone. It was not so much the person's "fault" as it was the media!



Thank God. That is the last thing this forum needs. . . another religious debate. . . hahah

I think people make a bigger deal of religion than it really needs to be. But it isn't so much the religious that are making a huge deal, as it is the Atheist.

When you talk about religion, you get down to people's core beliefs. For some people, the religion is who they are. So if you disagree with their religion, they take it as disagreeing with who they are. The main problem is when people just say that the other person is definitely wrong, it's like when people get in a fight and they think they're going to win by saying, "Well, you're stupid!" instead of actually making a point.

You should never try and force your religion on others. The best thing you can do is tell people it's benefits, and any kind of proof that you have that your religion should be true. It's just being retarded to tell people that their religion is wrong and yours is right, because then they won't listen to you anymore.

The reason religious arguments get escalated is because people think that people are saying their religion is definitely wrong. And you just can't say that. It's an opinion.

I Agree With with hippiman. I think most people will listen to another thoughts on religion as long as nobody is offending the others beliefs.

It is no secret that people look to religion to find answers. Why did this happen and what is my purpose in life? But I believe there is a reason for everything. There is an answer to every question and that you cant believe or acknowledge in good with out acknowledging that there is bad in the world as well.

But to some degree I can understand what your saying about religion being over exaggerated. Religion is just a practice, a guide line of what you believe, in other words you don't need to be a Priest to believe in God or a monk to believe in budda. I think SOME religious people try to push there beliefs on others without caring what the other person feels or thinks. Also SOME I think are to judgmental and think that they're always right and that they have there gods personal phone number and can ask him(or her) what he thinks about this or that. I think there's a balance to everything and you can't have good without the bad or vise versa.



This post has been edited by SolidShadow: Dec 16 2007, 07:36 AM

I am certainly with you that religion is overexaggerated but as someone already mentioned, it's core characteristic is getting inside people. People take their religions at a upper pedestial than what they are anyone else around them are. But it's just a characteristic of religion, so there's not much we can help.

About what the Priest said, that's pretty obvious had to say something like that, it's funny how he didn't say something a bit more acceptable if he's supposed to nurture humanity but I guess we all are pretty accustomed to it. There's more politics in a Church than the USA. But after the Black Plague, I guess people had started to get an idea about the Priests, but anyway, that's not the point.

Asking the Priest to comment on the Earthquake was like asking a Scientist to comment on Creationism or God as a whole. A Scientist's view is certifiable only uptil it remains within nature.


[1] I respect your view. But sadly religions don't let people define them, especially all the Abrahamic (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) religions.

[2] Just one thing I would like to say here. Look at the Moon he's pointing at, not the finger, please?

[3] Just like the Christians are after other religions, every religion is after another religion and every religion is after Atheism. Everyone wants to make the other look stupid.

[4] Trust me, everyone wishes that ignorance could be a way out.

[5] I definitely agree with you here. I don't know when will the media start growing brains, or atleast hold a disclaimer when they're trying to be sarcastic.

[6] No one really cared for Atheism until it stood out. People over-looked religious conflicts for centuries but when something new [actually, Atheism is older than Hinduism or even Hammurabi's code] came out, it was so much easier to point their fingers there. I have no idea what you are trying to say when you say we make a big deal out of religion, we don't even care unless and until your "ancient" scriptures come in between common sense, justice, equality and humanity.

[1]Although some religions are just a practice, Christianity isn't "just a practice," for if it were just that, then there would be no drawbacks, there would be no reason to try to obtain followers, everything would be just a concept, a thing that was started for the sake of giving people something to do.

[2]This isn't possible, for people come to the faith, not the other way around. If that were so, then everyone would have a book that they are the author of, of which they follow, everywhere they go. There would be no mainstream religion, everything would be merely an opinion—nothing that can be established. Everyone would have the right to do whatever they want, for there are "entitled to their opinion."—even then, this statement would just be an opinion. However, there is absolute morality.