Okay, so before I go into why I think parents who don't punish their children are bad, let me give you a little information before hand.

A couple of weeks ago, my dad took me and my little sister to hurricane harbor (A water park.) We were going to go to six flags, but the day we secided to go was a 100+ day. So we decided to go to a water park instead. well, over all it was a fun experience, but one thing just annoyed the living crap out of me.

My little sister, who might i add gets everything she wants, wanted to go on the buba tub, which might i add is a complete waste of time for the wait. Well, the line was moving pretty fast untill we got close to the platform, where it is the hottest. Well this one family comes in behind us. They looked like complete white trash, dressed like complete white trash, smelled like complete white trash, and most of all their children behaved like they were raised by white trash. Well, the son Dillon, had no sense of personal space, and was completlely up my *bottom* the whole time. Their daughter, who's name i can't remember, would get in front of people. Well Dillon would get in front of us (YES I KNOW IN FRONT) and LAY DOWN. Well, I accidently stepped on his fingers, and he just threw a complete hissy-fit.

Well, If I was a little kid at a water park and I behaved like so, my dad would have just spanked me right then and there. But did these parents take any action at all? NO THEY DID NOT! All the fat lard of a mother they had was doing was teaching them their vegitables.

Well I turned to my dad and gave him a look that means something wich i will not quote and he said in english, "It's a lack of home training." Well, I guessed she heard us by the sound she made.

Well, Dillon got up and started being annoyingly close again. So, I keept "accidently" hitting him in his thick head with my elbow.

So. Don't be white trash. Spanking is GOOD for children! They will behave in public! They will sit still at resturaunts!

And you know what? My father spanked me. I turned out fine. IT'S NOT ABUSE!

Oh, and another story. We were at Brookshires (a grocery store) and there was this fat lard white trash woman with her son. Well, her son got up out of the cart and just started missbehaving. BADLY!

Well, the kid grabbed some tomatos and started squishing them on the ground. And you know what the mother said? "No noah. Stop that noah."

Had I taken he same action of the child, i would not live to see the next day (FIGURATIVELY SPEAKING) I would be in soooo much trouble... I hate to see what parenting has come to these days...

Well, if you're not that into physical punishment (even though it works the best) i guess you could try grounding or time out (Time out doesn't work very well just so you know.)

So why are they trying to make spanking illegal? Can't thy see that people are allready having enough trouble with their kids? HONESTLY!

yeah, I agree completely. I mean, I'm not even out of high school yet so I obviously don't agree with everything my parents did raising me (and I likely never will), but at least they knew to punish me, because I would have turned out a complete brat if they hadn't... I know exactly what you're talking about in your story, too, nothing pisses me off more than a bunch of whiny misbehaving children in a public place.

Yea i agree people who think that giving there kids "spankings" will make there kid turn out bad but they dont realize that spankings help there kid become a better child. When i was smaller my mom give me spankings for the smallest things when i got older i never misbehave.

There are some kids who parents just believe that if they don't give there child spanking there kids will respect them more. Which really does not help at all.

In an episode of the Boondocks a show on Adult Swim it had an episode were a kid was making a fit breaking everything in the store making a big scene. The mom did not know what to do and started on the main character handed her a belt and showed her what to do with it. Then she whooped the kid with the belt. LOL That is what kids now of these days need.

Well calling people white trash I wouldn't really call that fine, at least keep it to yourself or phrase it some other way.

Anyway, I do think that a lot of people do need to discipline their children more. Of course spanking may do some good but it could lead to abuse but there are also other ways. There are many different things parents can do like giving rewards for being good instead or take away something when they are bad. Of course some parents shouldn't really be parents in the first place as sometimes they don't care what their children do as you said about the mother at the water park. A lot of these children are the same ones who's parents don't care how well or bad they do in school either which sort of ruins it for their children.

I feel for you Sarah. My sister doesn't/didn't believe in hitting her kids but she has 3 kids and the youngest 2 are becoming brats themselves. Babysitting them is becoming frustrating.

The kids in question are a 4 year old girl and 1 1/2 year old boy. The girl is basically 1 part undisciplined 2 parts spoiled. She is really smart for her age and that compunds the problem. She wakes up around 10am and takes more than an hour to eat a single toast; any attempt to wake her up earlier or hasten her eating causes her to rebel and go even slower. This attitude carries on into every corner of her personality. Furthermore her younger brother is inheriting her attitude.

The thing thats really frustrating is that whenever we were babysitting my mom would say that it's my sister's job to discipline her kids (which is right). But there are times I think an uncle/grandfather has the right to step in and give a good smack.

I completely agree with you. I'm a Senior in highschool so I do know what it's like to be punished as a kid. And I must say, I'm glad I was spanked for some of the things i've done. It's amazing to me how some parents treat their children. I was actually on a houseboat for a week with a family that had two kids. Now they weren't bad parents, but they never really punished the kids. If the children wouldn't come onto the houseboat the parents would give them a treat to do so (which is a bad idea as it would teach the kid to ignore their parent until they get a treat).

I have also seen some very bad kids as well. Like the ones who think they're all that because they can trash can some kid at school and I wish that their parents would have done something about it.

I myself would have turned out so stuck up I wouldn't be able to bare myself had I not been punished seeing as I came from an upper/middle class family raised in a lower class neigborhood. Punishment teaches your kids to behave and to be humble.

Now I understand people trying to ban spanking to prevent abuse; however, sometimes children need to be spanked, just not in excess, but in severe instances (such as acting out or stealing, or hurting others).

So I completely agree with you.

There was a new law introduced in my country, that stops parents from hitting their children. It is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Children need to be physically punished so they will behave properly when they grow up.

Some parents to go overboard, and hurt their children, but no physical punishment at all is a bad thing. They need to know whats right and whats wrong, and sometimes punishments like that are what need to be done.

Oye, oye! What's with all the name calling in this topic, Mermaid? The vent was not created to unleash your anger out in such a way. Consider this a verbal warning.

But i do agree that a parent should be a parent and take action in disciplining their child when they're acting silly. Of course they shouldn't go overboard, where the child would require medical attention and the parent be placed in jail and have a restraining order. Here's a proverb that fits well with this topic: Proverbs 19:18.